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I loved The Walk, but that was five movies ago. Four straight mediocre to bad movies right afterward is the longest losing streak of Zemeckis' career. And as much as I love The Walk, some people would include it in the losing streak because of how badly it bombed at the box office.
After his mo-cap experimentation in the 2000s (which I was not a fan of), I really thought he was on his way back after the solid Flight and the terrific The Walk, but those two movies turned out to be more the outlier than the norm in the last 20 years of Zemeckis' career.
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When it becomes available on streaming, it'll drop more. That's the way it is with the vast majority of movies, and I think it'll be especially noticeable in Avatar 2's case given the visual nature of the film. I think it'll settle around 7.3.
I remember when the original had an 8.7 early in its theatrical release and was once ranked as high as #21 in the IMDB top 250. Avatar 2 won't make the top 250 at any point.
Edit: Case in point is Glass Onion. It held an 8.0 rating for weeks after its brief theatrical run. Since it's been available on Netflix now for two days, it's already dropped to a 7.5 and looks like it will still a drop a bit more.
On a first viewing, I loved this movie. I thought the atmosphere, suspense, and scares were top-notch and some of the best I've seen. But damn, after a second viewing, the plot just falls apart under the slightest bit of scrutiny. And I think that bringing Justin Long into the film was a mistake. His performance was just so grating to watch, and I say this as a fan of his.
I loved this movie on my first viewing, but watching it a second time, while I was still entertained, the plot just falls apart under the slightest scrutiny.
There were so many things Tess could have done to try to convince the police. She could have given the police Keith's name and told him he was killed down there because surely he was reported as a missing person, right? Hell, why was she not reported as a missing person herself? Did the director who interviewed her and knew Tess was staying in a terrible neighborhood not think something was wrong when she never answered her call? Or why didn't Tess give the police the name of the director she interviewed with so that the cops could contact her to confirm who Tess was?
I'm not saying the cops would have believed anything she said, but she could have tried to say and do a whole lot more to convince them.
No. It'll get somewhere between $800M to $850M. Even with China, I still don't think it would have hit a billion, considering the original made $105M there.
(Spoilers). The ending definitely reminded me of Fallen with the whole trying to stop the entity by hiding in a cabin/house in the middle of nowhere.
Fallen was an excellent movie, one of the best horror thrillers of the 90s.
I thought your point about slapping the A24 logo was funny and true. I liked this movie a lot myself, as it delivered a lot of excellent scares, a strong rising sense of tension and suspense, and a terrific lead performance in Sosie Bacon.
But a few things hold it back from being one of my all-time favorites. I thought the attempts at humor were pretty awkward and for the most part didn't work for me. Then there is Jessie T. Usher's performance and character. His acting is a few notches below everyone else in the film, and especially in scenes next to Sosie Bacon, he's just completely unconvincing. That he plays the cliched unsupportive fiancee just makes it worse. (Spoilers) Frankly, it sucked that the two most likable characters in the movie meet a horrible fate while he acts like a jerk and just disappears from the movie without any consequences.
And then there's the ending, which going in hand with what a downer it is, it was just too obvious how it was going to end once the rules of the entity were set up, not to mention it was incredibly similar to the ending of a particular horror/thriller from the late 90s.
I don't want to sound too negative, because I liked this film a lot and give it an 8/10. It's just that it came so close to being a classic for me if not for the issues I mentioned.
I fully agree that Kurt's most iconic roles were in the 80s. But he also had a lot of forgettable movies in that decade sandwiched in between those roles that didn't get particularly good reviews or make much money.
The 90s just had more consistency across the board in both quality and box office, and for that reason, I think it's his best decade. Personally speaking, with the exception of Captain Ron, I've probably seen each of his 90s movies at least three times and some a lot more. While I've seen The Thing and BTILC several times each and Escape From New York a few times, most of his 80s filmography were movies I've only seen once with no desire to ever watch again.
(Spoilers) That's really not the same and is actually much worse than her not appearing at all. She was an excellent lead because she was so sympathetic. Bringing her back as a smile demon hallucination is actually like rubbing salt on a wound because it's a reminder she's not only dead and gone, but she lost to the entity.
You didn't like Tombstone or Breakdown? Both were among his most critically acclaimed films, and a lot of people have Tombstone as their absolute favorite of his movies. And all the movies I listed, except Stargate, have positive rotten tomatoes scores.
I agree his biggest cult classics were from the 80s, but I think the 90s easily had the more consistent combination of commercial and critical success.
I think it was more putting himself out of his own misery than getting caught. He could have just easily shot Justin Long if getting caught was the main concern.
He also knew that Frank would kidnap women, rape them, and that the woman/creature was a product of generations of incest. I just don't really know how he could find all that out unless he went into the tunnels himself or a kidnap/rape victim escaped and revealed what was going on down there, but obviously neither of those things occurred.
I loved this movie on my first viewing and I still like it, but this is not a film that is going to age well or hold up to a lot of scrutiny on repeat viewing for the reasons you've mentioned. It's pretty telling that this film went from a 7.6 IMDB rating to a 7.1 in about two weeks after it became available on streaming.
There's other problems beyond what's already been mentioned. Did nobody report Tess or Keith missing? The documentary filmmaker that Tess interviewed with knew what part of town she was staying in and she must have wondered why she never head from Tess again. Keith was part of some group that surely must have been aware what house he was staying at or should have at least wondered why they haven't heard from him. And how did Keith travel around? There wasn't a car outside the house when Tess arrived. It's possible he used an Uber, but why not just specify that and leave that hanging? How did the homeless man learn the terrible history of the house?
I've noticed horror movies are subject to larger drops than most other kinds of films when they get their digital release and/or online leak. I also noticed the drop you mentioned with X, from a 7.3 to 6.6. This has already occurred with Terrifier 2, which went from a 7.3 to a 6.8 in just 3 days. I'll be curious to see how much Barbarian (which is my favorite horror film in years) drops after its digital release. My guess is that one will settle at around a 7.2 or 7.3 IMDB rating.
Pearl seems to be getting a slightly stronger reception than X (both of which were well-received) so I think it will end around a 6.9 or 7.0 IMDB rating.
Excellent analysis. I'm pretty much in agreement with all your points. The addition of a fantastic final girl (indeed, I think Sienna is already one of the best final girls ever) is the aspect that made the biggest difference for me that made this superior to the original. It says a lot in a movie with a supremely creepy killer clown with some of the most brutal and memorable kills I've seen that Laura LaVera was the best part of the film. She delivers an excellent performance and gives us a hugely sympathetic and likable character to root for, looks totally amazing in that costume, and she's absolutely bad-ass in the film's final act.
Seeing as Halloween Ends was practically a reimagining of Christine, this seems even more redundant now!