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That proved nothing. Just because you are a character in a successful film does not mean you are iconic. Also the greatest trilogy ever? According to who?
Prove it.
Iconic? Seriously?
Yeah I am not denying any of that, but the cop was totally in the wrong. That can't be tolerated. I am all for good honest cops but not corrupt ones like that.
The cop asked the photographer what are you filming for sir? The photographer did not answer. Cop said can you lower that I do not like things like that pointed at me can you lower that device? Photographer said these are cameras you know they are, cop said lower it and photographer said no I will not. Cop then placed his hand on his weapon. So no the cop did not have have his hand on his weapon before the verbal altercation took place. Photography alone can not be considered a crime. You can take a million photos of anything so long as you are on public property. Your eyes can not trespassed from public property. Taking too long to film in public is not a crime, there is no time limit to film in public. So that would be a bad reason to call the police and waste their time.
Perhaps he is a cop basher, but the cops need to not fall for that. The cop falling for such a ruse showcases he should not be a cop.
That is a high stress situation, no one can know what they would do unless they were in that situation. Also apparently he needed to be told how to do his job since he was acting in an unlawful manner. That would piss me off as well if a cop placed his hand on his weapon when I am not doing anything illegal.
Hmm? Well I guess I view it different. Was he supposed to say nothing? I mean they did swear an oath to protect and serve.
Hold on bud back it up just a tad. Maybe I should clarify I think rioting over something trivial is silly. I just hate when people who had nothing to do with an act of wrongdoing get caught in the crossfire. Maybe I misspoke. Sorry if I came off that way. Do not take me for some blind follower.
The photographer turned foul mouthed once the cop pulled the weapon. If someone points a gun at anyone it can create lots of anxiety because obviously guns can kill. Therefore even though I think he is a loud mouth I do not blame him for becoming irate. It is understandable becoming irate over that.
When someone does you wrong that way you are not really thinking rationally. From our stand point yes you can think that way, however in that situation it is a whole different ball game.
I was getting people's view on the video. Some people will have controversial opinions on the video. Well you alluded to the fact that it was a case of hating cops by saying sorry I am not giving you what you want, blame the police always.... I disagreed with your notion that both were in the wrong. That is a first amendment protected activity. No law was broken therefore the cop had no right to unholster his weapon. It really ends there. It has nothing to to do with hating or blaming the police. Yeah sure the guy is a loud mouth, sure he was looking to get the cops attention, but in the end cops need to deescalate a situation not escalate it.
The photographer is definitely a loudmouth. Telling the cop to not unholster is weapon I do not see being an issue. Him placing his hands on his gun would trigger anyone in that situation.
why is that?
Both were in the wrong? No actually the cop was completely in the wrong. I will support a cop full force if they are acting lawfully this was not the case though. The 1st amendment allows you to film police in public. Whether he was looking for a confrontation or not is irrelevant. That cop acted completely wrong. Had he just not fallen for an obvious ruse none of that would have occurred. Um did you read my description in my post? I said old video right at the beginning. This is not about demonizing the police it is about right and wrong. Want me to show you where a cop was in the right? Here I will get a link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vlu1FRaic
Watch that. I fully support the cops in this video. The first link I gave though no the cop was in the wrong. You do not unholster your weapon on someone unless you feel you are in danger. Your attempt to label me a cop hater was uncalled for.
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Rioting should be condemned no matter which side does it. A peaceful protest is acceptable though.
You lied therefore it is useless to continue.
Since you lied I am calling it. Good day bud.
I already answered this. They are a part of culture which means they can be factored in. Last time I am answering that.
Even if we say it is a tie Fellowship still wins in critical acclaim, and acclaim by the mass majority. Which is why I also mentioned acclaim and not just box office.
Nope you attempted to steer it in another way because you have empty points.
I answered this already look above. Fellowship beat it in critical acclaim and acclaim by the masses. Even if you take out box office Fellowship still wins. That is the 4th time of answering that question. You ask it again it will be ignored.
Because they are a part of culture that is how I know.
Which is why I also cited critical acclaim and acclaim by the public. If I had said the only reason Fellowship had more cultural impact was box office you would have a case, thing is I never did. Even so though there are r rated films that have done better in box office than pg-13 films. Not always but it is in fact possible.
This conversation was never about proving Fellowship to be a a film it was about which had more cultural impact. Your attempt to steer the conversation this way is pathetic.
Which is why I did not only cite box office as a means of measurement. Your entire point fell apart.
You said my interppretation which is the same as Gilligans was wrong.
I cited it once not doing it again.
You openly said clearly you did not understand the movie little boy. Are you blatantly lying now?
His interpretation was the same as mine. So if I do not understand it than neither does he.
Nope read what you wrote again.
So then what movie did I not understand then? You said I did not understand the movie which one was it?