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You are wrong. Right from the very start, back in 1992, Moses had told his nanny Monica Thompson that he believed the assault allegation was made up by Mia. It is in Thompson's testimony from 1993.
So Moses *never* changed his story - he just kept it to himself all these years. Who knows what Mia's other children are keeping to themselves? With the exception of Ronan (who is making a career out of exposing true abuser Weinstein), they have not really spoken out.
Three of Mia's other adopted children (apart from Soon-Yi and Moses, who are estranged, and Dylan, who has been a victim for 26 years any way we look at it) will never speak out: they are dead. According to Moses, they fell victim to depression, and turned to self-destruction. Their names were Tam, Lark, and Thaddeus.
Please read what Moses has to say about life in the Farrow Household. It is revealing. Unless you don't want to believe this abused child, of course, for the sake of maintaining your belief in another abused child.
http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com
Read below *who* you are calling a hypocrite, and get ready for a surprise.
"Dear Ronan Farrow:
How would you feel if you unearthed this quote from a prominent friend of Woody Allen‘s, citing his artistic merit, as a defense in the face of child molestation charges?
“[He’s] a loyal friend, important to me, a distinguished director, important to the motion picture industry, and a brave and brilliant man, important to all people.”
Would you be outraged? Would you issue a Tweet, calling out the friend as a rape enabler? Think about it. What would you do?
The quote actually has nothing to do with your father. It appears in the probation report of Roman Polanski, written after the director had been charged with statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl. The statement was submitted by the director’s friend and colleague, Mia Farrow.
Now read it again."
Source: https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/hard-questions-for-ronan-farrow-an-open-letter/
You are talking out of your a$$. This allegation has got nothing to do with rape, bruises or semen.
In earlier versions of the 'story', Dylan said she remembered that Allen put his finger inside her vagina. In the more recent versions, she has changed her story to merely 'touching' - because that is harder to (dis)prove.
In earlier versions of the story, to be precise from 1992 to 2014 there was no 'train set' in the attic. Suddenly in 2014 the 'train set' miraculously appeared. For 22 years Dylan must have 'forgotten' to include it into her narrative. And you know what? Now she claims it made a HUGE impact on her, "so that to this day, I have not been able to look at toy trains".
And some people find that 'credible'. It is sad.
1. The Farrows can go to court any day. They could have done it in the past 26 years. They can still do it today, tomorrow, the day after. But they didn't, and they won't. Ask yourself why.
2. If your argument would be true that movie celebrities can bend the law, then why didn't Mia Farrow bend the law? She had the money, the power, the lawyer (the same as O.J. Simpon would have, a few years later). The truth is: movie celebrities are rarely above the law. That's just a poor excuse for a juridical outcome that does not suit you.
3. Soon-Yi Previn is NOT Allen's adopted daughter
4. Soon-Yi Previn was neither 'underage' when she got into a relationship with Woody Allen (she was 21), nor when she married him (at 26).
Nice try. Get your facts straight next time.
The Farrows have had 26 years to publish a photo of that attic. They never did.
The adopted children Soon-Yi and Moses claim that Mia was abusive to them. Not only to them, but typically to all adopted children. Moses recently told that Tam, Lark, and Thaddeus had falled victim to depression, have self-destructed, and died. We can't ask them anymore how they 'enjoyed' their life with Mommy Mia.
We could say that Dylan is the only adopted child that is still on Mia's side. Then again, I could make a point that she is the most abused of all, having her whole life both devoted to and damaged by what is possibly Mia's revenge plot against Allen.
The other children have hardly or not spoken out publicly about the allegation or the joys of the Farrow Household. We can only guess what they think about the whole thing.
Oh, and by the way: Ronan may not be Woody's biological son. Mia has come out saying that he is 'possibly' Frank Sinatra's son. Even if that is not the case, it demonstrates that Mia was f&kking other men behind Woody's back, which may be telling about the state of their relationship at the end of the eighties, and how she must have felt when she was 'betrayed'.
You wrote: "The fact is...."
And what you wrote was not a fact, but a falsehood.
Like so many other falsehoods in the Farrow narrative. It's downright painful.
A Woody supporter in this case is by definition not a 'child molester apologist', because Woody supporters typically believe he did NOT molest the child. You could have dreamed up that argument all by yourself, Sherlock.
Unless, of course, you want to assume that everyone who disagrees with you is a lying son of a b***. In that case, have a nice life.
You wrote: "And all the other children say otherwise."
Again, you are wrong. Two adopted children deny the allegation. Three other adopted children fell victim to depression and have died. Only Ronan ('possibly' not Woody's son, in Mia's words) stands by his sister's story.
All the other children have made no public statement about their position. Not even when Dylan, Ronan and Mia have turned up the heat.
You wrote: "Whether or not she mistreated them is another issue. Soon Yi and Moses said she did, the other children say she didn't."
It is not so simple. Let's count who thinks what about Dylan's allegation.
Adopted children: Soon-Yi, Moses, Tam, Lark, Thaddeus. The first two, 21 and 14 at the time, vehemently deny the allegation (Moses being a personal witness during that afternoon). The other three have fallen victim to depression, have self-destructed, and are now dead. We can't ask them anymore about how they enjoyed the Farrow household.
Non-adopted child Ronan: vehemently supports the allegation. He was 4 years old at the time and has no personal recollection of the afternoon. He has to go by what Mia and Dylan tell him.
All of the other children, either biological or adopted, have not spoken out about the allegation. You can *presume* that this means they agree with Mia, while I can *presume* that they keep silent out of fear for Mia.
In sum: you are wrong by saying "the other children say she didn't". There's only Dylan and Ronan who have spoken out - and they were not the victims of Mia's alleged mistreatment.
I advise you to read Moses' blog, if you haven't done so already:
http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com
She has said no such thing.
After they adopted Soon-Yi, Mia Farrow and her then husband André Previn had done some medicaly research, and had established Soon-Yi's birthdate at October 1970.
Her affair with Woody Allen took off at the end of 1991. The nude photo's were taken in early 1992. That makes Soon-Yi 21 at the time.
Indeed, their romance was very unfortunate, considering the circumstances, but in spite of the age gap it was an affair between consenting adults. The couple got married when Soon-Yi had completed an academic education, and was 26. They are still married today and have raised two happy adopted daughters, now adult.
You have no reason to call WA a paedophile. Any fact pointing in that direction is missing. There is only one allegation, and that was thoroughly investigated, by multiple, independend expert parties, all of which concluded that the allegation was false. Hence the prosecutor, empty-handed, decided to not prosecute.
Real paedophiles are typically recidivists. Allen is not. There have been NO other allegations, let alone proven facts.
Still calling him a 'paedophile' would make you into a 'false allegation enabler'. I don't think you want that.
For several reasons.
1. There has only been one (1) allegation in a lifetime of 80+ years. Totally unlike Weinstein, Cosby and the likes.
2. That one allegation happened at the most suspect of moments for a false allegation: during an ugly divorce and the onset of a bitter custody battle. Ask your nearest family lawyer about false allegations toward men who are despised by their angry ex-wives.
3. That one allegation was thoroughly investigated, by multiple, independent expert parties (Yale-New Haven Hospital, Child Abuse Dept. in Connecticut; New York State Child Welfare Dept. in NY). Both concluded that the abuse did NOT take place. Indications were found that the child had been 'coached' into telling the abusive narrative.
4. Allen has steadfastly denied. The alleged victim, then 7 years old, has changed her testimony several times.
5. Other than in the Weinstein and Cosby cases, there is a long string of defenders of Woody Allen against what they feel is a false allegation.
6. The adopted son of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen, Moses Farrow, has recently spoken out against his mother. Already after the incident, Moses reportedly told the nanny that he felt the accusation was made up (it is in the nanny's 1993 testimony), even though at the time he was very troubled by the fact that Woody had started a relationship with his (then adult) sister Soon-Yi Previn. Today, Moses defends Woody without reservation. You can read his revealing testimony here:
http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com
7. The Farrows (Mia, Dylan, Ronan) seem to be jumping the #MeToo bandwagon in order to get attention for their unwarranted allegation. Instead of going to court and charging Allen, what would be the honest thing to do, they play the newspapers and television in order to break Allen's career in a trial-by-media. In doing so, they typically NEVER go into factual arguments against their position. They flat out deny everything, which makes them unsympathetic to a part of the audience.