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Yep.. especially that one emphatic line where she says "We need to find a way out of here!!"..
And they are ALL standing in front of a damn door.
Yep, you're right.
But the sad part, Halle Berry didn't have a gun to her head to take the part, no more than any other black, beautiful actresses. I look back on many of the roles many african american actresses settled for, because they didn't want to wait, (get a real job), and accept decent roles.
I remember when i used to rush home to watch Good Times when i was kid. I look at that comedy series, now, and cringe with embarrassment. John Amos finally woke up, in the middle of the series, and finally started complaining to Norman Lear, who basically fired him over the phone.. Esther Rolle decided to leave later.. By that time, the die was cast. They had already played a stereotypical role, like many others.
I remember standing proud as i saw more african american characters being cast in films? But when i became older, i had to stop and think about it.. every last one of these actors, played stereotypical roles (especially slave roles) - even the "Acadmeny Award" status types.
Whoopie Goldberg, Oprah Winfrey, Monique, Gabby Sidibe, Octavia Spencer, Morgan Freeman, Viola Davis, Lupita Nyongo, etc.
The others i saw on TV, to the silver screen? Yep, Side chicks, pimps, prostitutes, druggies, drug dealers, single mom in the ghettos., wife beaters, physical abuse victims, faceless background actors, or promiscuous males/females, etc.
The first time, i ever saw an 80's or 90's movie with a young african american female that smart, beautiful, and nerdy was on "Nightmare on Elm Street 4".. Even most of the caucasion males i went to college with were impressed.
Over time, things have changed in cinema? But Hollywood still has a long way to go. And maybe african american actors should stop and really think about "cultural impact" when they pick a role, versus "exposure", then complaining about the paycheck afterwards, like Viola Davis..
I agree with the OP..
What bothered me was the "Denial to the Death" Trope.. It would have been a lot easier to watch the movie if Rose would have stood on the rail road tracks, put her fingers in her ears, while saying "LALALA, i don't hear you".. until she gets hit by the train..
Everything about Jason was perfection..
the beard made his beautiful, huge, expressive, brown eyes even more intense.. and that thick head of hair..
WOW!!!
It's a guy thing..
We all know when the sh**t hits the fan, what guys do.. They knew Hercules would lose his mind, and go nuts if they told him point blank.. So.. they do what guys do..
They kept working on the ship, and hoping someone else would have the balls to tell Herc. (and of course, talking in great detail about the incident the whole time, they were supposed to be working)..
*Sigh*, as usual, it took a woman to just "put it out there", basically. This way, they have someone else as the scape goat.. which through out mythology to politics, from Adam and Even to Ben Carson's wife - it's the woman who gets thrown under the bus.. Yet will point out the obvious when no one else will..
Their screeching was really scary to me.. Even to this day..
Reminds me of my ex-boss..
From a woman's point of view i found Nigel to be:
1) Fiery (especially his beautiful, laughing eyes)
2) Bold: "HE'S HERE!!!"
2a) He certainly knows how to make an entrance!
3) Fair
4) Mature. Hercules immediately put his competitor on his shoulders and laughed. That's a real man.
4a) Imagine if Trump would have lost at the discus.. Yep.. we all know how THAT would have turned out. That's not a real man..
5) Body hair, don't care - all in the right places
6) Daring.. Well, maybe a little TOO daring, just ask Talos..
7) Loyal, Devout. When he lost his friend, he vowed not to leave the island without him.
8) Certainly no one's coward.
All played brilliantly by Nigel Green.
Your limb is non-existent, sir.
I'm native american, and marched in the civil rights movement. To add more branches to your "Limb".. Blacks and Natives fought to have movie roles that depicted us with certain level of pride in our heritage.
To add a few leaves to your limb and your branch - every thing we fought for..
the right to sit at the same table as whites
the right to have movie roles that do not depict us as stereotypical
the right to sit at the front of the bus when we have to travel off the Rez..
the right to go to a movie and smile with pride when we see us NOT being depicted as savages, minstrels, prostitutes, drug dealers, side kicks, maids, studs, pimps, or mutes.
Everything we've fought for in art, music, and the media - has been thrown back in our faces thanks to this generation of sell-outs and shameless types of our very own cultures.. All for a few bucks, and exposure.
Mine, is a perspective of a culture that is ashamed of the Wyans, The rappers, The comedians, the reality TV actors, who have no idea what we fought for. And could care less, as long as they get theirs.
So no, i'm not white.. I'm just posting the truth, which does not require "color".. only experience, and years of observation.
And don't forget..
Durza and Darth Sidious (Senator Palpatine after his change), have really bad teeth..
I, as a viewer went in with lower expectations..
All i can say is.. My expectations should have been much lower..
that dancer, though..
It was bad enough watching her dance.. then she tried to act as well..
someone once said that Hollywood is full of sociopaths and narcissists.. This movie is absolute proof...
I'm glancing up at it once in a while during my studies.
all i can say, just through research alone, i found the director used to do gay porno-movies. Apparently, he saw Blade-Runner and thought he could do better on a lower budget, and his own "brilliance"...
Well, for what it's worth.. He lied to himself, the cast and the public.
Patrick Hockstetter..
I thought he was kind of creepy..
But for some odd reason i thought it was funny when he said that line:
"You can't stay down here, all damn day.." he had the perfect drawl..
Crc,
I hate to tell you this... But actually in many cases? Many cases of early sex does not occur through sexual abuse. I worked in the OB/Gyn ward, and i've had some interesting young ladies come in having consensual sex before 12 years of age. Some of them are taught by their mothers that it's okay. Many of the the mom's show up with their daughters for the ultrasound. Some are surprised and pissed off. They aren't upset that the child had consensual sex, it's the fact that the child had "unprotected" sex.. Some of them are happy as can be.
The youngest females i've had to work with, were between the ages of 11 years of age. At 12, yes 12, many of them were already pregnant. Yes eggs are developing from that age..
This happened a lot on the Native American reservations, Eastern continents, Brazil, South America, Mexico, places in the Middle East, young african american girls (urban areas), as well as young caucasian girls right here in the USA as well (especially in rural areas). It was not only cultural, but it had a lot to do with poverty level.
They willfully have sex at young age, because, well, in many cases - it's what they're brought up to do. Have kids, so start early for the benefits. In some instances, i've seen in rural areas, where it's almost like a competition or a form of bonding.
And let's not talk about the mormons, where they are popping babies out just as early for the "sake of religion".. where we know full-well, what that's all about.
There are some cultures/males/families that believe the "younger the female, the stronger the child".. Where it's actually the opposite. If the female's eggs aren't fully developed, there are more risks of having pathologies. It's the same as when the female is too old, and her eggs are near their "end of life"
There are risks at both ends of the spectrum.
It would be nice to believe that it's not true? And that parents or single mothers train their children to keep their legs closed until they reach a certain age before having sex? But in the real world.. It's not the case.
Stephen King has his moments.. And i still wonder about that whole scenario. Why did he even put it in there?
Well, The same goes for George Lucas. He's still trying to distance himself from the scene where Leia and Luke give each other that kiss in The Empire Strikes Back. If that were real life, i could understand where they didn't know they were brother and sister.. But that was a movie.. where the hell did that even come from?
And other weird stuff in the American Graffiti..
I think they did it just for effect..
Whether the kid was headless or not? I know a few librarians back in my day that would have made that kid clean up that mess...
Yep.. Calzone is trolling as usual..
Slow Calzone, there's no need to be rude or obnoxious.. Sounds to me the OP was brought up at least to have some semblance of manners, which clearly, - you've been raised otherwise. It's very telling..
It's okay to cry.. we give group hugs if you need them..
Obviously, Calzone did not read the book. I think he's just trolling.
Mike was the historian as well as the one who brought everyone back. Unfortunately, many of the african american characters in Stephen Kings novel are actually the lead role. Once the directors get a hold of them? They literally wipe them out. Or make them basically faceless.
Randall Flagg versus Mother Abigail.. Both characters were african american in the book..
That would have been amazing to see someone like Idris Elba playing Mr. Flagg. He makes an incredible villain..
I honestly thought, the moment i saw the Mike character that was in the movie, that the director was going to traditionally kill him off before the end was up..
It's just racist hollywood, plain and simple.
Stephen King kind of made me wonder why he didn't make Mike a successful character in his book.. Mike was the "custodian" and left to tend the house, so to speak.. while everyone else went abroad and each one was successful.
I, too, hope they switch the roles in the Sequel. At first, i thought, the reason why the history was given to Ben was because maybe the actor who played Mike probably might not have been convincing enough in the monologue or the scene in the library. But it was obvious the director used Ben to steer the characters over to his place to look at the history. As well as play-up the embarrassment of the New Kids on the Block with Beverly.. (which was actually pretty funny..)
Don't know if the director was queezy about showing the world a bunch of white kids being educated by a black kid. Let alone going over to his house in the movie. To be honest, it's a possibility the director had no clue how african americans in general, actually lived in small towns, back in the 80's or the 90's for that matter. Instead of doing the research, he probably just made it easier for himself, as well as the audience. Gawd knows the director didn't want the snow flakes to be uncomfortable. They're the biggest box office draw, world-wide.
I also was kind of wondering about that scene where she is laid out tanning in front of them while their listening to rap music..
It was almost as if she had no problem hitting those guys over the head with her sexuality. This was kind of surprising to me, because the character in the book just wasn't like that.
But what i found interesting was the comment Richie Tozier made when she asked them to come into her apartment to show them something.
He said: "What? more than what you showed us at the Quarry?" and of course, he's given the old Tozier comeback from his friends: "Shut up, Richie"..
Is the director trying to convey the male psyche toward beautiful women? ..
They will gaze/gawk/stare at you if you're beautiful - yet resent the fact that you flaunted/allowed them to? (Thank gawd the director didn't do a head to toe (face and body) slo-mo panning of the camera as she laid out there.)
Personally? I like the fact that she was beautiful. Many Tom-boys i've met through out the years have always been extremely attractive? But hate being girly. That actress that played the role in this movie was beyond pretty, in my opinion, from every single angle. But making her the damsel in distress gave way to the usual: "Helpless Beauty" we've been fed from the media for decades.
I think, if the director would have had her climb out the bathroom window while her dad was after her and ran like hell, to tell someone like Bill/Ben would have been closer to the character. No time for the clown, man.