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I'm going to have to go back and watch, because I didn't remember seeing him bail. He bailed, huh?
Anyway, just wanted to thank you for your post here, really kind of cued me into a better view of the situation.
This is pretty much what I think. He at least owed Joe more than to have done it behind his back like that.
Kind of tragic that he never adapted to the stillness, but I also understand completely. What kept coming back to me as tragic, was that we have the technology to allow deaf people to hear, at least to an extent, but that it costs so much as to keep it out of reach for many of them.
It's just a little unsettling to think that a bunch of people are going through a life without sound because they don't have enough money. And if that was, at least in part, why it was so important for the people in that home to not see it as a disability. They would never be able to come up with that kind of money...it wasn't an option for them, they really had no choice. And its what ultimately made him an outlier.
I also understand why he didn't say anything...he knew what Joe's reaction was going to be, and I'm still not so sure that Joe was fair in trying to get him to give up his life's ambition and instead spend it there, with the household. At least to the degree that he seemed to take it...seemingly like some kind of personal affront when he got the operation.
I don't know, there's no easy answers here, you know? But its great cinema...or even WHY its great cinema.
Lol nope...I got it right, you should do more schooling before you correct others
Oh yeah, I forgot about that...some of those segments were less funny and more just...snarky and/or snide.
I didn't.
This is an awesome review and I can't thank you enough for it. Just finished my second attempt to try and finish this movie and I'm still just past the half-way mark...I just can't do it. This is not how people work, this isn't how people act...this is pure Hollywood trope-land, and the toxic masculinity you point out was something got over thinking was "cool" at 16-17 years old. Except obviously this isn't a movie for kids...while it sure as hell isn't for adults.
And yeah, Butler's character is just loathesome. The dialogue, the swagger, everything about his body language suggests he's either emotionally crippled by insecurity or is just a horrible stain of a human being.
I used to get a kick out of watching cop movies with my Father, a retired police officer, on account of how he'd sometimes scoff at the ridiculousness of some of them....and I can't help but imagine him being floored by the absurdity of the nonsense the police are up to in this movie. Nothing works this way...this reality can only exist in Hollywood, and while I can normally roll with that, the amount of disbelief required to be suspended here is actually frustrating. Ratchet down the adolescent testosterone-driven fever dream to about 50% of what we have here and it might be tolerable.
Anyway, yeah great review, I stopped the movie for the second time here just to come looking for this...and I couldn't have said it better.
That's a unique and interesting take...will have to think on that awhile. Because yeah, the timing was absolutely crazy, right? I mean RIGHT after Dunbar leaves, he shoots himself.
Yeah you'd think there has to be some kind of connection...how interesting.
"The emphasis is lost as the scene almost comes across a comical." It really did, huh? Guy just states that he pissed his pants...and then its some kind of power move? Yeah couldn't agree more with your last sentence, was really a surreal moment.
And I bet you're on to something there with the drug use...maybe that was something that was rampant and a problem for many back then.
I'm not sure that it matters that there's only one thread on this here, I think the point is that there's a thread on even the most innocuous of movies.
Its gotten silly...and it was old a few years ago, yet you can expect to see it on just about every new movie. There's nothing clever about it, it seems like more of a race to see who can be the first to read into stuff.
Its also a way of making you seem cued in..."in the know", "nothing gets past me" where they'll find "woke" in every movie they come across as a means of believing they're clever.
I think its just as much about self promotion as it is about an actual cause...these are people who don't think very highly of themselves and this kind of thing is low hanging fruit.
That's...thank you. Yeah I'm aware they can't be alive, but at the same time they do things that exhibit characteristics of people who are alive.
Like, muscles don't work off of magic, everything zombies do involves some process that implies a living being, so none of it makes any sense. Within this realization, having a fetus be a deal breaker is...I get it, but at the same time, this should all be a deal breaker lol
I WOULD like an explanation to that...are we sure he was on the ground level? Yeah he JUST got done stating what he was going to do so that makes zero sense if so.
Yeah you're right this was a stupid movie. The cliches abounded, the characters did silly stuff..
Why did they have to make the bad guy so damn evil, too..."Haha I've locked you in and am taking the chopper, you're dead and I got you good haha!"
I wonder how much of this was intentional. Like the conversation they had when she came back with the chopper...with dude right on their heels. It was such a plot contrivance that it was almost surprising. Like, really? REALLY we're doing this now?
It almost seemed like this was done tongue in cheek or something, maybe a little wink to all the past zombie movies? Like shoe-horning in having to kill Dad in the end, as he turned...you can't miss THAT beat in a zombie film, you know? Having to kill off a loved one.
I don't know, the movie had amazing action but made you work pretty hard to suspend disbelief. Like it was bullying your disbelief or something. Believe THIS bitch!
I guess they're not dead then? Like, dead as we know it anyway.
They make noise, their lungs are pushing air past their voicebox, so they're breathing, they're eating so have some sort of digestive system, they're up and moving around so have blood pumping to muscles, or...something.
They kinda alive!
every. single movie. someone finds something to get upset about. Every one.
Yeah I'm not much to critique movies, I like to enjoy the ride and all but this moment was just jaw droppingly goofy. Couldn't have said it better than you did...incoming nuke, worst nightmare directly on their heels and they're going to stop and have themselves a moment.
She's explaining her "aw shucks" moment and I'm just yelling at the screen "GOOOOOoooo!!!" lol
Yeah that was a bit excruciating to watch =P
Please delete this stupid thread
The only explanation I could give for grandma to keep helping her trashy daughter is because she knew what her childhood was like.
I don't know, Mom was definitely loopy...blowing up like she did at times? But she also had a pretty rough upbringing...and at least for me personally, the older I get, the more of a hard time I have judging people too harshly. There's just so much trauma going around, and it definitely shapes a person, you know? Some of us just aren't as strong as others.
But yeah, that was exactly what that kid needed to do...get the hell out of dodge there.
Dude you can write...well done, well stated. Wow.
Well said...summed up exactly what I couldn't. Yep, fully agreed, especially your last paragraph there; nailed it.