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Certainly it's changed (and I think it had twelve years ago, when you wrote this). Those kinds of attitudes may not be completely extinguished, but there is widespread awareness that it's pretty uncool to act the way he did.
It's true, I watched "Wonder Years" as a kid and it did seem like it was portraying a faraway, long-gone era. But what I don't trust is whether a big part of that is because it was from before I was born? Maybe people who were middle-aged then (the oldest Boomers) were like "yeah, that wasn't so long ago".
People definitely had smartphones in 2009 though. Not maybe to the extent as now, but the iPhone debuted in 2007. So it does make a big difference when you see a movie made just barely before that (with flip-phones everywhere), or just ten years earlier, or less, when there weren't even flip-phones, at least not in wide circulation.
Fair.
For sure. I initially dismissed "riled up" as not making any sense, but on further reflection I suppose I can see it.
Good point.
I don't think it's something we should work towards, no. I am married, second time, two kids with each wife. I don't want to be monogamous and don't intend to be.
I would argue that the supposedly monogamous society we have now quite clearly doesn't work, because of human nature. What I advocate is that people be discreet and considerate, not parading extracurricular affairs in front of their mates, and taking pains not to embarrass them. But also not snooping on each other trying to "catch" the other "cheating".
Right, if he even remembers!
Those are all very plausible. And many of my speculations go against the grain of what they were trying to make us feel with the ending, but I thought it was an interesting thought experiment to ponder, if you set aside authorial intent.
True.
He was definitely very handsome here. Kind of a proto-Jess from Gilmore Girls.
Even at this early stage? I thought Kiefer needed a little more maturing.
It's only entertaining (to me anyway) if it feels real enough that it makes my pulse pound and I catch my breath. It did this very effectively for quite a while, and then it lost me when it became so obviously unrealistic.
Yeah, it's a nice scene.
Haha, I appreciate the research though! Good catches there.
The score was great, as was the cinematography and some of the VFX. The androids looked ridiculous and they should have scrapped them, replaced them with more agents in suits or whatever. And while as I said I thought the orchestral score was really good, the schlocky adult-contemporary songs were awful.
Yeah.
Also, why did the dude in the cabin feel like everything was copacetic once he deactivated the trackers? He obviously should have realized they were tracked right up to his driveway.
Agreed. I think unfortunately critics feel sheepish about pointing out these issues because the movie explores a Serious and Important Issue (racism bad). Notice that the main criticism you do see pop up is that it is too focused on DiCaprio's character and not enough on his Native wife. To say that three and a half hours of straightforward and dramatically inert reenactment of this Serious and Important Issue is not interesting cinematically would open them up to taking a ton of heat they don't want to deal with.
Let's hope your original take was right.
I think as a series of vignettes illustrating a historical story, it would be reasonably interesting. But it doesn't really have a cohesive throughline as a movie per se.
Bummer no one has replied to this after five days! You are the only person I've seen so far, in reading a LOT of online comments here and elsewhere, who had the exact same reaction I did: that the first 45 minutes seemed like a masterpiece (I guess because of the worldbuilding?) but that it became plodding and repetitive after that. I had characterized it as "the first hour", but it might have been only 45 minutes, not sure.