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I also could only watch a few minutes from the beginning and the end. Very sad.
I'll always remember her as the eccentric woman Alvy Singer had a date with when he broke up with Annie Hall.
Playing a kooky or eccentric character is one thing, but putting the woman on display when she is clearly mentally ill is another thing entirely. How could Dr. Phil exploit someone in her condition?
It took you SIX days to come up with that reply?? LOL CAN you post something clever? WHY wait until I don't act like a lemming? But really? A lemming? I am rushing headlong into destruction? You better check the libtards who were brainlessly following Hillary!
Just curious, what do you consider an "independent thought"? I happen to be a conservative, so of course my beliefs coincide with other conservatives. What is "independent"? Must I come up with some idea, remark,insult that is truly my own?
As for lemmings? You DON'T see that in the liberal world you inhabit? I recall when Bush was running in 2000, MSNBC and every other left leaning news show talked about Bush not having "gravitas". They ALL read from the same script. They ALL pass around talking points. Hardly a whole lot of original thought there, and they are PAID! That has happened over and over and over again in the leftwing world of talking points. They latch onto ONE dopey idea and repeat it endlessly.
But okay, an original idea I had... Pres. Trump was portrayed in a modern day Shakespeare version of Julius Caesar and he was stabbed. If I was a producer of plays in New York, I would do Shakespeare with Obama in mind , " Romeo and Romeo".
I can think for myself, thank you very much. I don't need anyone to tell me that Obama was a disaster for this country.
A number of the Oleson episodes are classics for me, like when Nels was so sick of Harriet and her nagging and went off on a sales trip. He developed a crush on Maggie Reardon, the woman who ran the bed and breakfast where he stayed. The episode is "Second Spring". Nels sure was loyal to his marriage vows the way he was able to return to Harriet.
I love the episode where Percival's parents visit just before Nellie's baby is born, " Come Let us Reason Together." Harriet and Percival's father, Mr. Cohen, fight over the baby's religious upbringing. Of course, twins was a great solution to their problem.
Okay, I see your point, totally believable, but I was only stating MY opinion that it was so mean of the studio! Now that you mention it, I have heard of cast parties that took place at the end of a season, the actors think they are coming back. But they find out in the summer that their show has been cancelled.
But since Ricky's movie WAS cancelled so abruptly and he was a total newcomer to Hollywood and had no clout, how did he manage to merit a visit from the HEAD of the studio? If they shelved Ricky's movie without telling him, I think a message from a boy in the mail room would have been more in keeping with the studios treatment of its actors. (lol)
I never said the show did TWO seasons in Hollywood. But it WAS a long story arc. Ricky's Movie Offer aired Nov.8, 1954. They mixed in a few non Hollywood episodes like when Ricky's mother visited and the Ethel birthday episode. But then it was all Hollywood. The season ended with Ricky STILL not making a movie. In the opening of season 5, he had finished his film. Guess he made it over the summer! lol It was an abrupt end to something that was talked about for almost a whole season. The final episode that referred to Hollywood was the Face to Face interview which aired on Nov.14, 1955.
Maybe YOU didn't need to know the name of the picture, but I SURE DID! ha ha If they had no intentions of giving the film a title, then why bother with the interview and all the talk of the premiere?No actor goes on a show to plug his latest project and doesn't mention the title at least ONCE.
If I was alive back then and a fan, I would've felt cheated that the story arc wasn't given a proper closure.
But heck, maybe most people agree with you and don't care about a title. This is just strictly my feelings about it. And I am sure "Hollywood facts" back up what you said about the manner in which Ricky was informed. It's a cold and ruthless business, glad I don't work in it.
I love this episode. The angel who invites Hyder into heaven is perfect for his vision of heaven. He made Hyder feel at home and the angel invited him to the square dance that night.
Maybe if Hyder was the CEO of a big company or a jet set millionaire, he'd be greeted by a man in a three piece suit or a tuxedo inviting him to the opera that night.
It was all Hyder's idea of heaven.
Once again, interesting insights, can't say I agree with all of them, but I enjoy the discussion!
I can understand dropping 'Don Juan', never liked the way they TOLD Ricky the news. I confess, I'm not up on the details of MGM musicals. My love of movies reflected my mom's. We watched her old faves on TV like Bogie, Bette Davis, Hepburn, etc,. NO musicals. The only time she went to see a musical was The Wizard of Oz with a friend. And she was mad that she wasted a quarter! I loved Oz and the Disney musicals, but I've never seen a Gene Kelly film or Fred Astaire.
Hadn't even considered that they were starring Ricky in a big budget, lavish musical. Maybe someone like Kelly or Astaire. But Ricky was an unknown outside of New York. I didn't even think in terms of "big musical" because Lucy told her mother that the studio was building Ricky up as the next Valentino. He was a SILENT screen star (lol). I assumed 'Don Juan' was a light romantic comedy with a few numbers for Ricky.
Re: OP comments about the Mertz's film role. I think it would've been funny to have an episode "The Ricardos and Mertzes Attend the Premieres". Both films had their premieres on the same day and the two couples argue over which one to see. The show had no desire to continue the Hollywood arc. It was over. Just something I like to think about, maybe for a fan fic!
As far as the Mertz movie role, maybe it got cut from the film. I've read about actors who said that their part in a film was cut. "I was IN that movie. But they told me my part was cut during editing."
I didn't need to learn the film title, but I WANTED to! Sure, they did housework, showered, ate, etc. We didn't see ALL they did. I didn't need to know the songs Ricky sang at the Tropicana every night. But the Hollywood arc was a season and a half. The fans invested a lot of time in it. I think the writers owed the audience a title. Still love the Hollywood episodes though!
My grandmother used to say, "There's a lid for every pot."
Daphne was very sweet and kind of quirky. For whatever reason, she appealed to Niles.
Of course being a total knockout and gorgeous can GET a woman lots of men. But to KEEP one interested, there has to be something besides looks. Think of all the beautiful actresses who have been married multiple times. Looks don't guarantee happiness. They don't automatically mean you have a great personality or are intelligent or kindhearted.
I used to work with a guy who talked about his fiance a lot. He sounded so in love with her. He raved about her. One day he brought some pictures from their vacation. She was rather plain and overweight. She had a pleasant face but definitely what you'd call a "plain Jane". But he was so crazy about her. Clearly there was something wonderful about her that appealed to him. I hope they got married and are still together and happy.
Since I saw this show mentioned in the trending bar, I am getting reacquainted with the episodes. There is a station that runs episodes here, but they are on in the middle of the night. I've caught a few of them.
I've watched the few episodes that I could find on youtube and a whole bunch of "best of" segments. I watched some of the segments from the French restaurant. Niles trying to pound those eels while they were still in the tank. He wasn't taking them out until, "I'm sure they're dead!"
The kitchen staff deserts them and Frasier tries to push the new specialty of the house, scrambled eggs!
I'd forgotten how many funny episodes there were. Frasier trying to get some sleep in the daytime since he has to do his show at night and being so cranky. Niles comes in and accidentally fires off a starter pistol.
Any scene with the two brothers is hilarious.
Yes, in that season five episode, it is pretty obvious that it's Diane in the opening teaser. But I never noticed back when I was a kid!
As far as not using twins for "Dennis the Menace" or "Leave it to Beaver", those boys were children of course, but not babies. I think Jay North was hired at the age of eight and Jerry Mathers was nine. Little Ricky was played by five year old Richard Keith. But even that age makes a world of difference in child development and their performance compared to the Murphy twins who were two when they debuted on Bewitched.
I read an article that explained the use of twins to portray babies and toddlers. It said that children two and under can be fussy, crying, teething, etc. When one baby is being un-cooperative, they just use the other one. They have no real dialogue and can't take much direction. All a show wants from a baby or toddler is cuteness, co-operation and QUIET! lol
A school age child is a lot different developmentally. Even though child actors can only work a few hours a day, they can obviously do their work and turn in a performance without the show worrying about them crying and fussing and ruining a scene. Successful child actors seem to be driven and a lot more ambitious than the average child. They aren't shy and they can take direction and work with adults.
I don't know if you ever watch any of the soaps, but toddlers must be terribly difficult to work with. When there was a toddler on a soap, in about six months of (very brief) appearances, the child would magically become six or seven years old! It must be difficult to work with a youngster who can't talk yet, but CAN babble and fuss and mess up a scene. I used to feel sorry for the actors who had to ad lib around a babbling baby, pulling at their jewelry, looking up at the studio lights, pointing at their real mommy off camera, etc.
No wonder shows prefer to use twins. Bring out the quiet one who isn't making a fuss!
You addressed some of my pet peeves about the Hollywood arc! First the positive, it WAS a clever way to get the characters out of the confines of the brownstone and have star struck Lucy meet celebrities and try to get into show biz. And the buildup was realistic, a visit from a talent scout, a screen test, waiting for word from MGM, getting ready, the trip out west, etc.
The negative, 1. The studio shelved the picture and put an article in Variety BEFORE telling Ricky? Not very professional. And why would the studio head himself, Dore Schary, be the one to tell Ricky? Hardly his job. Like the CEO of Wal Mart visiting a local store to say that it was closing because of lack of business. The scene with Lucy hiring Dore Schary to play an important producer from back east was funny.
But it was so illogical. Ricky didn't believe the Variety article because he was scheduled to do screen tests with actresses that very day. But he had been going to the studio every day for weeks, to do WHAT? He still didn't have a co-star?
2. The starlets. Yes, they WOULD know they were doing publicity pictures for a film. And why do the photo shoot in the hotel room except to make Lucy jealous? She KNEW he was making Don Juan and he'd have female co-stars. He wasn't making a war movie!
3.Lucy's mom calling Ricky 'Mickey'. Well she wasn't too bright but it seemed more passive aggressive on her part. She didn't like Ricky and what better way to insult someone than by refusing to get their name right? As Ricky once remarked, " HE'S little Ricky, but I'm big Mickey." And yes, they needed a babysitter. They could hardly take Mrs. Trumbull along on the trip.
I dislike the way the "picture" was finished and we never learn the title or what type of film it was. After all the big buildup, the story arc fizzled out. Ricky made a movie. "Let's go home and never speak of it again." LOL They were on " Face to Face" , but Ricky never says the name of the film!
To answer the OP, the Democrats would have to pay for my lobotomy to get me to vote for their wacko Party ever again!
Very "clever" left wing comeback! LOL Do you have anything clever to actually SAY? Granted, no one could be as "clever" at saying nothing as Barry H., but go on, give it a try!
The first one that came to mind was 'To Kill a Talking Bird.' Niles hosts a dinner party for his new neighbors, but he ends up with a large bird stuck to the top of his head. That one had me laughing so hard!
'Shrink Rap' is funny. Frasier and Niles go to couples therapy when they can't run a psychiatric practice together.
Oh sorry, I didn't know this was a "ridicule Charles" thread! LOL
Okay, Charles working at McDonalds- by the end of his shift he would be bringing home some teenager who took the job to support his drug habit...like Albert.
The TV Antenna is a good one. One of my favorites is Lucy installing a shower. The other day I watched some episodes on you tube. I watched a few that I had forgotten about.
Lucy gave her sister a fancy wedding ceremony after she had eloped. Lucy and Viv didn't know that the groom (played by Hollywood Squares Peter Marshall) dumped a bottle of champagne in the punch. They had a few glasses while decorating the wedding cake! What a mess! Lucy could play intoxicated so well.
Well even if Charles stared a new job at McDonalds, you just know that they would hire Caroline as the cook! No one could cook like Ma!
"playing a guy, who aint smart but thinks he is , that's tricky" That quote made me think of Max Baer, Jr. who was hilarious as Jethro Bodine on The Beverly Hillbillies. The next character I thought of was Barney Fife played by Don Knotts. It takes a lot of talent to play a dumb bunny who thinks he is smart.
The next person I thought of was Barry Hussein Obama, who has ALWAYS thought he had the biggest I.Q. in the room, when in fact he had the biggest EGO.
Another Monk fan here! Loved that show
I would answer your question if I had the vaguest idea WHAT you were talking about!! LOL
But I would spend some of the money on our local animal shelter, our local soup kitchen, my church which is always in need of extra funds for charity work. I have no need for a lot of "stuff". I am past the age of caring about buying a lot of things for myself.
I didn't want to be greedy! There are lots of ways to make $$$, you don't necessarily have to be an overpaid celebrity to do that. You can actually do things which help your fellow man, such as science, medical research, etc.
I was merely thinking of 'celebrity' in the most shallow sense of the word. As in Whoopi Goldberg, Cher, Oprah or David Letterman could secure the best table in a restaurant by merely giving their names!
So that $ would be "wasted" on me? lol What would YOU spend it on? Besides yourself!