Good Movie, But Not Good Enough To Get Phoenix the Oscar (no spoilers)

I would content with just them giving him a nomination.

Respect your opinion, but I don't think there's any way he doesn't win every award.

Usually, Best Actor goes to the best of the good (Hollywood politics not withstanding).
This was the best performance Ive seen in a long long time.

Theron in 'Monster' is the most recent I can think of, as far as drastically transforming yourself physically.
Of course Ledger, who deserved it, but also got some sympathy since he died before the awards.
Hanks in Philidelphia maybe? Abraham in Amadeus (impressive he didn't split to many votes with Hulce).

Its rare that you get an overwhelming favorite before the year has ended.

I would argue that this movies "controversy" was a completely manufactured narrative perpetuated for reasons I can't understand. I didn't find anything about the film controversial. There have been far more violent films released this year that received no attention at all. Likely because they arnt good and wouldn't merit a reponse.

That said I think Joaquin will certainly be nominated. Will he/should he win is yet to be seen. Most award contenders are still to be released. I think he was better than both Brad and Leo in One upon a time.

Not a chance with the movie made just for a white audience. It won't even get a nomination.

My prediction:

■ Phoenix: nominated, but he won't get the Oscar.
■ Brian Cranston: nominated and winner for the Upside. He never got any Oscar, and this woke movie is the perfect chance to award him while making some political statement.
■ Winston Duke: nominated for Us. Two reasons: it fills black quota, and he was in a movie from the new Hollywood's daddy's boy, Jordan Peele.
■ William Jackson Harper: nominated for Midsommar. This is the official 'intellectual' movie this year. And given the choice, they'll nominate the black actor in the movie.
■ Himesh Patel: nominated for Yesterday. Filling the Indian quota is much more difficult than filling the black or the hispanic quota. I don't think Hollywood will miss this chance.

Good Movie, But Not Good Enough To Get Phoenix the Oscar (no spoilers)


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While, there is no right answer here..

I personally feel Phoenix's performance is absolutely strong enough to warant an Oscar win, now that obviously doesnt mean he Will win, its entirely possible when they announce the Nominations, there may be another Actor just as deserving, but all I'm saying is, When I watch the film, to me, i think Thats its a performance good enough to warrant a Oscar.

also worth noting, after watching Joker, It put me in a mood to watch another Phoenix film, that happens a lot with me, I'll watch a movie, and it will put me in a mood to something else similar.

I watched "Walk The Line" last Night for the first time in about 8 years....and I must say, I was completely Blown away, I remember watching it a few time a long time ago and liking it.

but this time I watched the movie with the sole purpose of wanting to see and focus on Phoenix's Performance.

and I'm kinda in a state of shock right now....Phoenix was astonishing and I absolutely feel he should have won an Oscar for his Performance.


I do think Phoenix will get nominated for Joker this year, but I dont think He'll Win, Not though because there Will be a better performance, I just dont think Joker is the type of film voters will vote for.

Whoever does win, Will probably absolutely deserve it, But Phoenix would deserve it just as much

"And the coup de gras, Avatar, a movie "made just for a blue audience.""

Hey man.... Smurf Lives Matter!!!

Oscar Academy has shown for many years they love (in addition to great acting) body transformation... actors who physically suffer to play their role.

Phoenix has this in the bag.