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This certain movie trope/plot device NEEDS TO DIE (spoilers)

posted 6 years ago by WhyNowTho (43)
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The whole "Is the ending a fantasy or not?" gimmick.

I've had enough of it.

It's lazy and rarely used effectively.

Have the conviction to pick an ending and go with it.

[–] kumarihpx (59) 6 years ago

[–] 2coolhipdude (114) 6 years ago

[–] MonStar (12898) 6 years ago

[–] PeteyandJia (300) 6 years ago

-1

[–] Towelie_Towel (1773) 5 years ago

Depends on the situation.

[–] mr159 (136) 4 years ago

Why would you think the ending was a dream? Nothing in the movie indicated any ambiguity.

[–] Noufa (397) 4 years ago

When discussing Michael's suicide, Toller speculated about what we see at the moment we die. That could have been foreshadowing the ambiguity of death & whether we perceive the harsh reality of it or experience something transcendent.

I'm also not sure what to make of that hovering scene. It was so fantastic it pulled me out of the movie.

[–] TimMC (9143) 4 years ago

NOW WAIT JUST A F'n MINUTE!!!

Are you asking Hollyweird to NOT be lazy?

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[–] Melton (4442) 3 months ago

Agreed. I think Schrader didn’t have to balls to turn his ‘hero’ into a suicide bomber so he bailed out with a faux-profound ambiguous ‘did he die?’ ending.

Schrader has himself confessed that he doesn’t know what happens - well he should.