Disney are the racists. - The Little Mermaid (2023) Discussion

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

When this was announced 3 years ago, bitch be all:

[–] B1cKsurN (7422) 3 years ago
Literally no one cares about this.

You seem to “literally” care now. Why the change of heart?

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[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

Wow you dug back 3 years of my posts to come up with this?

Dude, rethink your life.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

rethink yours, bigot

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[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

Omg you called me a meaningless word! OH NOES

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

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[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

ADDRESS THE COMMENT FROM THREE YEARS AGO AS RELATING TO YOUR RECENT BITCHING.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

No, I dont have to do anything!

The AI race-swapped trailer did all the talking needed.

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[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

🤣

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Mermaids dont have a race you stupid inbred hillbilly. They are fictional ( that means not real for idiots like you ). You’re just mad the made up character isn’t white cause you hate anything that isn’t

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

No, I hate it that people like you hate whites so much that you go out of your way to replace white characters with black ones just to create conflict and tension in the world. If you really didn't care about race you wouldn't go out of your way to make it all about race in the first place and replacing white characters for black ones. Imagine if someone took Blade or whatever and made it a white character in a big reveal trailer that then gets praised for having more "white representation".

You are evil and your antiwhite hatred needs to be stopped.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You fucking goof. KKK got you brainwashed. I dont hate any skin tone(unlike you). I just dont care what color a made up character is. You loser racist

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

The fact you are s upset about a fictional character is both funny and sad. Its a kids movie get a life kid

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

So as long as it's a kid's movie I can do whatever I want? If you didn't hate or care about race you wouldn't be in favor of replacing races in kids movies in the first place. I guess the Hitler Youth was fine because it was a kids thing so who cares, right? What a stupid point of view, just delete your account you silly person.

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[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

READ YOU OWN "POSTS"...YOU AREN'T SILLY...YOU'RE FUCKING DUMB. NOEMOJI

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

When did i say I was in favor, stupid? I said I dont care either way. Its make believe. Its hilarious how easy you racists get triggered, lol. Hitler youth??? WTF are you babbling about. They were REAL. That doesnt even make sense. I feel bad for how truly, beyond dumb you are you dont even know the difference between real life and make believe. Im sure you know all about the hitler youth you racist nazi. Keep getting triggered by fictional kids movies, you fuckin loser

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

Your initial point was that racial propaganda doesn't matter as long as it's aimed at kids, that's why the Hitler Youth example was brought up. So apparently it matters what we teach to kids doesn't it? Try to keep up dumbass.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

No it wasnt, you fucking moron. Are you seriously this stupid or just trolling?? I said who gives a shit its all make believe anyway. Who gives a fuck what color they are?? Oh, ya Neanderthal racists like you. AGAIN, I couldnt care less either. A grown man triggered over a kids movie is just sad, hahahahahahhahahaha. Get a life and out of your moms basement you loser fuckin incel.

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

It doesn't matter if it's "make believe" or not. Just because something is "make believe" doesn't mean whatever you do is a good thing to do. You can't just have transsexual mermaids flashing their dicks at your children on the screen and go "hurr who cares bro it's make believe bro".

The whole point of this "race reveal" thing was to create a reaction from white people so you can pretend anyone who notices it is racist. They made it the whole point to do a "race reveal" trailer and then get it trending everywhere so that the POINT OF THIS MOVIE is that the main character is black. Then you go like "omg why is anyone noticing race, are you racists"?

You are the evil person here abusing the anti-white hatred normalization in today's world to shit on white people whenever you can. It won't last forever, you reap what you sow.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

yes thats the point , stupid. Again, idiot, I said I dont care about what color a make believe character is. That's not anti anything you thickheaded hillbilly. its hilarious watching you redneck racist incels lose your minds over a kids movie. Kids don't care, only bigoted loser incel white men do. Grow up donkey. No need to get so triggered little fella. Its only a movie. Its pretend, it cant hurt you or your kkk brothers.

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

If you "don't care" why do you keep replying?
If they "don't care" why did they make it the central point to change the race?
It's not about the race of a person in a movie, it's about the whole charade about making a whole race-reveal drama about it and then pretending you're shocked other people reacted to your manufactured controversy.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Cause its funny watching a grown racist lose his incel mind over a make believe kids movie. Yes its all about race to you, fuckin hillbilly. Keep staying triggered hahahahahaha. Only you bigoted rednecks care. The children who watch the movie dont give a shit. Poor little guy

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

Yes I care about anti white culture but I'm not losing my mind lol. I think you are just projecting your insecurities and biases. You must do that a lot huh?

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

I think you meant " the reaction clearly displays just how important race actually is to these monsters".

Disney truly cares about making money; money is not evil. For example I buy food and clothes with money. I'm an adult, I don't get all upset about your feelings.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

Correct... And ThetaBeta up there thinks he got me, because literally no one cared about tis till the AI race swap trailer hit Twitter.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Disney is not evil, as far as I know. Unless they're making films that advocate hate, racism etc, then they are not evil.

A black Ariel is normal for me. when I read the Andersen story, I did not remember any skin color; I had to go back and search for the word "white".

The story is public domain. Disney owns the version they made and are free to change it in any manner they see fit. I think my granddaughter will enjoy the film.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

Explain the AI-swapped trailer backlash.

If race doesn't matter, why did Twitter ban hammer everyone over it?

Disney are racists, they don't think African Mermaid stories will make money...especially in China. They have been caught several times de-emphasizing to outright eliminating black people from posters to sell movies to China...you are either purposefully obtuse or an idiot.

Disney also sexualizes little children...they are evil.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

I don't know anything about the backlash; can you explain it to me? Twitter can ban anyone they want; why did they do so that time?

Did Disney de-emphasize the posters or did someone else? I did read that it was Chinese distributers that did so. What is your evidence either way?

Which "sexualized children" produced by Disney arouse you?

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[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

I see you're going with A. Purposefully obtuse.

You have the internet, and a browser....do your own research bro. Or are you scared of what you may find?

Anyway, I'll throw you a cookie to start with.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUy2eKLUMAEeuiN.jpg

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Does not work that way. You make a claim, you prove it. Don't be a sheep.

Of course maybe you are just fine with someone accusing you of sexualizing children and having to prove that you are not, instead of demanding that you accuser do so?

So I am obtuse if I am not immersed in pop culture and know lots about Disney?

Yes, I've seen that poster. Who changed it? Disney or the Chinese? Your mere link to a jpg is not proof of who made the changes

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[–] ProgsReturn (2235) 2 years ago

There's an actual thread on this very same board about this subject.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

The changes would have been authorized by Disney. The fact they kotowed to a racist regime, means they enable racism.

It's no different to corporations changing their logos to include pride flags for pride month in offices or internet presence across the globe... except in places like the Middle East. They are virtue signaling without any real intention of changing the attitudes of people who need to change.

Also, Walt Disney was known to rub shoulders with Nazis. So he may not himself have been racist, but he had no problem with people who were.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Are you claiming that China has always obtained permission to alter the property of another company in the past? That would be a very naive assumption to make. China I think, is second only to North Korea in disrespecting property rights, probably.

So what proof do you have to support your claim?

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I'm saying that if Disney were as anti-racist as you imply, they wouldn't have been founded by someone who didn't have a problem with racism.

As for China... Disney are more than capable of preventing their property from being shown in cinemas in China. That they choose NOT to stop China showing their films, and don't even make an effort to prevent them altering their posters in that way, shows AGAIN that they are in no way the racial justice warriors you think they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney

"Earlier evaluations of Disney hailed him as a patriot, folk artist, and popularizer of culture. More recently, Disney has been regarded as a paradigm of American imperialism and intolerance, as well as a debaser of culture."

"Disney has been accused of anti-Semitism for having given Nazi propagandist Leni Riefenstahl a tour of his studio a month after Kristallnacht"

"though Walt himself, in my estimation, was not anti-Semitic, nevertheless, he willingly allied himself with people who were anti-Semitic"

"Like most white Americans of his generation, he was racially insensitive."

"there are imperialist values concealed behind the innocent, wholesome façade of the world of Walt Disney"

Sources are listed in the article.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

I didn't say Disney was anti-racist; I did say they were not evil. If you know Disney is not making any effort to prevent altering of the posters, then tell us who is altering them and prove that they are defying the owners of the property.

You seem to be reading posts that do not belong to me and making BS claims. You should also stop wasting your time telling me something I already know.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

"If you know Disney is not making any effort to prevent altering of the posters, then tell us who is altering them and prove that they are defying the owners of the property."

"You seem to be reading posts that do not belong to me and making BS claims."

Strange, by that second quote, you obviously are the one not reading what I am saying.

Where on earth did you get the idea I said the people altering posters are doing it in defiance of Disney? I said the exact opposite. I said that Disney are allowing changes to their posters to placate the markets they are being used in. And said they allow it because it is in their interests to do so for profit.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Where is your proof to support this claim you made?

That they choose NOT to stop China showing their films, and don't even make an effort to prevent them altering their posters in that way, shows AGAIN that they are in no way the racial justice warriors you think they are.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Because they could if they wanted to. They literally distribute their films to there. They could simply stop.

Also, I notice you didn't explain : Where on earth did you get the idea I said the people altering posters are doing it in defiance of Disney?

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

So if a local poster maker in China modifies a Disney poster, Disney could stop them? How would they stop them in China? Is it that easy to enforce property rights in China? Last I heard it was not.

Perhaps they are not defying Disney, but if you're going to claim Disney did not "make an effort to prevent them altering their posters", then perhaps you should prove it?

That they choose NOT to stop China showing their films, and don't even make an effort to prevent them altering their posters in that way, shows AGAIN that they are in no way the racial justice warriors you think they are.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Those modified pics are used in advertising directly with the Chinese box office. The same outlets that license the films from Disney. They aren't just some random guy doing fan-art for his own purposes.

"if you're going to claim Disney did not "make an effort to prevent them altering their posters", then perhaps you should prove it?"

Congratulations on not even understanding what I said. I am saying, and try to follow along because it can't get any easier, that Disney authorizes these kinds of changes. They are asking them do it. It is a conscious decision designed to ingratiate themselves with that particular market.

Actually worse, arguably, than corporations using pride variations of their logos EXCEPT in certain countries.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Your proof to support this claim is?

Those modified pics are used in advertising directly with the Chinese box office. The same outlets that license the films from Disney. They aren't just some random guy doing fan-art for his own purposes.

All I see is your unsupported claims.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Funny thing: In this very thread, someone posted a link to prove their claim, and you simply shrugged it off and asked if it was official or bootleg. Of course it's official.

Just because you don't believe the evidence, it doesn't mean the evidence is wrong. Disney have a history of white-washing their posters in China. Even if you refuse to believe it.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

No. Someone posted a link to a jpg of a poster. Nothing about who was responsible for changes or even if the poster was changed or if there was just supposed to be two different posters.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

It's an official poster. And as I've said, it's no different to the official logo changes for pride events, except in middle eastern territories.

You can choose to believe it or not, but you can't make "your" truth equal THE truth, no matter how much you want it.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Says you. How do you know it is an official Disney poster made or authorized by Disney?

Anyone can make a poster and put a few logos on it then pass it off as official.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

See, denial.

Since you don't believe that one, let's expand that to other Disney franchises and other publishers. I'll do it in small slices, to maximise the possibility you'll actually bother to look at them, rather than just hit reply saying "No, I don't believe you. And my head feels too comfortable buried in this sand to look anyway."

https://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-china-poster-controversy-john-boyega-1201653494/

https://gamerant.com/black-panther-wakanda-forever-black-adam-china-ban/

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

So who made those posters? The links did not say.

The 2nd link says something about a "localized poster" that Disney got crap for, but it does not come out and claim that the offending poster was authorized by Disney.

I think you're trying too hard to be upset over something you cannot prove.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You're trying to hard to deny the evidence, buddy.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

You're being very lazy. You just link to a jpg of a poster image and call it proof that Disney did something.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You're being lazier, by not even acknowledging the fact other film-makers do it. I mean, I literally posted a link that proves it, and several articles that state as much.

I mean, how much more stupid can you be?

Oh, yeah, never mind, you're here already.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Why do you think Disney produced the poster and not the China Film Group that was referenced in your link?

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

What link do you have that says it was Disney, and not someone else, who modified the poster for distribution in China?

In one of your links it says that posters for "12 Years a Slave" were,

“The ’12 Years a Slave’ theatrical posters featuring Brad Pitt and Michael Fassbender that were recently released in Italy were unauthorized and were not approved by any of the producers or licensors of the film.

Why do you think this was not also the case with the Disney posters?

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

That's not Disney.

This is: https://www.disney.cn/

Note the masked face on the Wakanda Forever promo on the front page is the only face on it, compared to the addition of 6 PoC faces on the western promo here: https://www.disney.com/ .. ?

I'm sure that's just a clerical error, or somehow not official, or insert-your-denial-here, right?

At this point it's obvious you are lying to yourself.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

I know it wasn't Disney, but I'm sure you knew that. I listed it as an example of an overseas market changing a poster without authorization.

Was the poster you're taking offense to, authorized by Disney or not?

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

The one I just listed on the Disney China web-site?

I'm sure that's just a clerical error, or somehow not official, or insert-your-denial-here, right?

Looks like you're simply not acknowledging the evidence at all now, let alone denying it.

Let's put it another way. If you had bothered to look, you would see that it is the Disney home page for the Chinese market:
produced by...
authorized by...
owned by...
run by...
run for...
and representing Disney.

But, of course, not acknowledging that at all is easier.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Okay, now I see it. It was not displaying properly at work. I can see it is a different poster on an actual Disney site that is different than another poster.

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[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/91c23bea1023a9c55eadc9bc82c8574d136288a4/0_0_736_1069/master/736.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=46f9adf5dcbb316a558b24572a490cf2

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[–] StrongRex (1319) 2 years ago

Anyone who says Disney is not evil is either super ignorant and not paying any attention, they’re lying, or they are as you said, purposefully obtuse.

One only needs to watch this video - there are countless other examples, but this incident taken ALONE should speak for itself.

https://youtu.be/AZ2rqlpd1_w

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

Did you know blacks are less than 15% of the population? Why do they need to be pandered to all the time and be everywhere and their "representation" increased? I think most people have the delusion that it's 50/50 or something. This is an attack on white people it's that simple, but it's just one more to the list that one day hopefully bites you back in the ass.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

What is stopping you from creating a company to pander to your preferred ethnic group? Stop being a sheep and do something other than complain on an obscure forum like this one.

What is this "most people" stuff. Did you conduct a poll? Probably not, you just want to appear to be smart by claiming that most people are stupid. Not going to work.

Delicate flowers like you who think they're being attacked when a film is made with an actor of the wrong skin color are not an asset to anyone.

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

"Just create your own Disney chud" that's what you sound like. I will do whatever the fuck I want and you'll just going to have to deal with it :)

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

It seems behaving rational is not something you want to do; you're going to have to deal with that yourself

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

If you consider being rational cowardly dodging my initial question, then by all means. I don't think you would be very happy if I bought Disney and got rid of all black people there would you?

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Yes I know blacks are about 15% of the US population. I think just about everyone knows that despite you trying to convince yourself that they don't.

Why do you say they need to be pandered to? If you stop pandering, people might be influenced by your example.

What happens at Disney is none of my concern. What do you have against black people that you would fire them all if you owned Disney?

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

No, they don't. Most people think it's closer to 50/50 and that it's racist not to have 50/50 "representation".

You sure seem to talk a lot about it for something that is "none of your concern"

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

So you know that most people are delusional? Sounds like a confession instead of an accusation to me.

If I did not address your concerns about Disney, then this would trigger you into saying you were a victim of cancel culture on MoveChat.

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

I never said anything about cancel culture I'm talking about anti-white revenge fantasies being enacted little by little. It's funny you talk about me spending my days on moviechat when you have 8x my posts lol lmao

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

Don't care. I claimed that if I did not address your concerns about Disney, then this would trigger you into saying you were a victim of cancel culture. Don't like it? Then suck it and go find a safe place to debate and coddle your ego.

I'm complaining about the content of your posts, numbers don't really have anything to do with it.

You can see white people being killed in just about any violent film. Why does it only rouse your ire when a non-white character does the deed?

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

I've never said anything about "cancel culture". My point has nothing to do with "cancel culture". You are the one who introduced this term for absolutely no reason. Get your head checked.

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[–] Ranb (11345) 2 years ago

I'll make any accusation against you I want. Deal with it.

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[–] Kingswood (1307) 2 years ago

i would say over 50% of commercials have black people in them ...whereas asians and latinos appear to be appropriately represented at less than 20% ...why is that?

also, almost every commercial with a family in it seems to make it a mixed-race family, and always a black/white couple, never an asian/white or latino/asian couple

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[–] almonigal (1295) 2 years ago

I wish Disney would make a movie about attention whores that post controversial topics to get the attention they dont get at home. No matter the race of the main cast, it would be a huge hit !

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[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

Aww, poor baby can't handle adult conversation?

3 million dislikes, and counting...everyone hates it.

Deal.

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[–] almonigal (1295) 2 years ago

Why are you getting angry? I was just talking about movie ideas...
Did you think I was referring to YOU?

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[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

Another disingenuous faggot who thinks you have to love every turd pushed out by Hollywood and that discussion forums are only for praising a piece of work.

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[–] almonigal (1295) 2 years ago

How the fuck are you able to type u dumbfuck monkey? Who the fuck was talking about this piece of shit movie?

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[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

Why are you getting angry? I was just talking about disingenuous faggots...
Did you think I was referring to YOU?

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[–] almonigal (1295) 2 years ago

U realize you make no sense, right ?

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[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

You seem upset. Do you need a tissue?

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[–] chefao (456) 2 years ago

Based, they are the ones making it about race it's as if someone took Blade and replaced it with a white guy. They mean to antagonize and generate a reaction by people and make it all about race. Evil indeed.

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[–] kungfulord (957) 2 years ago

Disney is a company without moral which is playing politics to generate attention to their soulless products (because now more than ever Disney only create products and not art)

Sure, but that been said is interesting the reaction of a lot of people, is very telling why they just got nuts just for seen a black mermaid.

All the arguments to justify the outrage sounds shallow and fake to be honest feel like the only problem is the race of the actress and not how that affect the story or the plot (which doesn't) I'm against race swapping and gender swapping, but this is not the same as Anne Boleyn, or a black Sherlock Holmes, or many others mistakes but in this I don't understand the outrage this character is not that iconic like a lot of people (mostly adults) are pretending

Or who knows, maybe this means so little to me, I just can't see why someone who is not years of distance to have their first period would give two cents about this character or movie

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[–] liscarkat (19418) 2 years ago

Is the black mermaid a new character, or have they changed the same mermaid character from white to black? The first would make sense, the second would be ridiculous.