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Henry Cavill may not be Superman


Warner Bros. is currently negotiating with Cavill's rep in renewing his contract. Cavill's team is demanding more money, and the WB studio execs are wondering if he's worth the increase:

https://revengeofthefans.com/2018/08/02/superman-making-sense-of-both-sides-of-cavills-contract-talks/

If the WB decides not to renew his contract, they'll only be hurting themselves. If HC's team think they can demand A-list money, they're delusional. So it's a catch-22 situation.

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I think Henry recognizes the dead end that is the DCU, and probably wants to cut his losses and split, but if he can squeeze enough money he'll stay.

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Think after JL it would be time for a new Superman in the next few years.

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Yeah, Sups can't get "old".

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And can't be played by the same actor over and over, forever and ever.

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If they actually are dropping Afleck and recasting Batman, this would be the time to dump Cavill too. The people love Wonder Woman, the people love Aquaman. Keep what works and fix what doesn't now.

Personally, i'm fine with Cavill as Superman, I think the screenwriters are failing him. But I also don't love him.

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I don't think anyone would wanna do another film with him right now, if you don't make a instant impression they'll just start from scratch.

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A Superman movie can't be written or made for an actor, if a filmmaker or DC have a strong idea where to go and if Cavill doesn't like it they shouldn't adjust it just to please him or hold out for him just to please his fans, I think that falls into massive issues and you'll end up with something poo.

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He has signed on for The Witcher on Netflix.

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/henry-cavill-as-superman-warner-bros-dc-universe-shake-up-1142306

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Danny Garcia said that he still has the cape in his closet. Henry himself low keyed implied he's stlll Supes. So it hasn't set in stone, yet.

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But he can't play it forever. After Justice League I don't think anyone would wanna capitalize on him right now.

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Both the studio and Cavill are backpedalling on this. Maybe its just a negotiation tactic.

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But he can't play it forever. After Justice League I don't think anyone would wanna capitalize on him right now.

Wrong, DCEU fans are still hungry for HC. Many don't believe that he was given a chance to star in a real Superman movie. Not to mention, he killed it in MI6.

Both the studio and Cavill are backpedalling on this. Maybe its just a negotiation tactic.

That's possible.

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Can't make it just for his fans and wait several years to see him again to the point he maybe forgotten.

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It's not just the DCEU. The general public wants him, as well. People want an MOS 2 before they want Supergirl, or even another Batman movie.

Which is why WB needs to get off their asses and start developing MOS 2, and work with Cavill. He never got a chance to impress people with his version of the character. He was given very few speaking lines in the whole entire franchise. He had very little screen time in the theatrical version of BvS and JL. Which is why people are still hungry for HC as Supes.

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Problem is the more you give people what they want the more likely it is that the audience becomes overly familiar with it all and is just no longer interested.

Similar problem with TV shows if the first ten episodes don't hit high enough ratings they give you the axe, so there's no time anymore for a show to grow and improve. If don't make a instant impression they're just not gonna do much about you. It means second chances are at a disadvantage.

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Superman movies are like Hulk movies. People seemingly want those, but actually they are not.

Hulk and Superman are probably too well known to be interesting anymore.

DC needs to move on to the famous yet relatively unknown characters, like Wonder Woman and Flash (just like Iron Man, Thor, etc.)

Or...

Please bring out NEW unseen before stories in live-action movies, like Flashpoint, Injustice, Blackest Night, Kingdom Come, Bizarro World, Justice League Dark, etc.

I would see ALL those universes if they made them into live action movies.

Give up the "cinematic universe" thing to Marvel already. They can cast different actors for different universes so WB won't have Disney's problem of aging and increasingly more expensive stars. They also won't have the problem of super convoluted inter-connected storylines.

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They can't wait for him forever, fans are just setting themselves up for a possible disappointment by staying put. A superhero movie can't be written around an actor because that would lead to some massive issues and end up with something that is utter garbage.

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They may not be able to wait for him forever, but if they chose someone else so soon it's only going to hurt them. DC has made so many bad films and mistakes. Getting rid of an actor (that most people are eager to see) before giving him at least one more standalone, is just going to add to the disaster.

We have "The Joker Movie" with Joaquin Phoenix that has actors dropping out. We have another Joker movie that hasn't come to fruition. DC also promised us 15 films that have yet to see the light of day. Not to mention, the most recent bad movies that they're responsible for. And now they want to make a "Supergirl" movie as opposed to another MOS? No one cares about Supergirl!

What these producers need to do is work on MOS 2. Tell Cavill and his team that since he has 1 more contractual obligation to play the character, they'll make sure that he has a more prominent role in his own film (which they didn't do for the 1st 3). And if he's able to break the box office and impress them, they'll pay him that A-list money and give him another film.

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Cavill isn't exactly the selling point of DCEU and hasn't made a impression outside of his fanbase. Problem is if you don't make huge instant impression they'll just move on from you and if a sequel is not made in two, three or four years they'll start over, as said on another comment it's a similar problem nowadays with TV shows if the first ten episodes don't hit high enough ratings they give you the axe, so there's no time anymore for a show to grow and improve, it means that second chances are at a disadvantage.

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They never allowed him to be the selling point of the DCEU, when his character is the traditional head. What possible impression could he have made with very few speaking lines in the very lackluster script of MOS? What kind of impression could he have made in the utterly stupid BvS, with even fewer screen time and speaking lines? In JL, he actually showed promise of the happy go lucky Supes - that had people cheering in my theater.

The mistake is really on DCEU for making crappy decisions and films. Sure they can reboot, but at this point...I don't think the reboots are going to be accepted. People are still mad at them for giving them crappy products and wasting so much potential (a la Superman's movies). So sure they can start from fresh, but I won't be spending theater money to see these "reboots". I have a feeling that I'm not alone.

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Thing is a movie can't always be made for an actor or a fanbase, Cavill shouldn't be forced on just to please his fans, think that all falls into massive issues and you'll end up with something absolute garbage.

Fans are hurting themselves by staying put on the same actor.

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Personally another Superman film with Cavill is not gonna happen, once his contract expires in the next few years it's time to recast, it's not if he's irreplaceable or the character has only been played by one person.

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It's in a rock and a hard place fans want to see more films with him but there's slim chances of it happening.

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I think Cavill had to have had more than one solo film in the first place to make a huge impression.

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