Gay relationship before straight relationship

If two people brushing their teeth is too sexual for you, or there is a priority order of relationship types that you need your programming to follow, then I agree with MichaelPacino. This just isn't a show for you to watch. Also, from what I understand, Netflix had nothing to do with this show's content. They put up money for streaming rights but the show was directly produced by CBS.

At this point I have to ask... did you even WATCH the original Trek? Kirk was a NOTORIOUS womanizer, and his escapades with the sexy "babe of the week" were legendary. And yes, that included sex with aliens (green Orion slave girls) and other alien species who may have been humanoid... but not human. Spock was the product of a Vulcan and Human marriage... again, a human female having sex with an alien. B'Elanna Torres (from Voyager) was the product of a human and Klingon marriage. Kirk was strongly getting it on with some shape-shifter of unknown form in "Star Trek" The Undiscovered Country".

Several classic episodes were based around relationships and the conflicts that arise from lust and longing. The TOS episode "Is there no truth in beauty" involved the strong reaction one human male felt when the woman he loved was more in love with a Medusan. Kirk used sexual attraction to turn Shahna to his side in "The Gamesters of Triskelion". The conflicted feelings between sexual love and paternal love led to the death of the android Rayna in "Requiem for Methuselah". I could go on and on...

So, your whole point about sex, sexual relationships, and sex with aliens has been with us since the advent of Star Trek.

To your bullet points, as well:

a) Not all homosexual relationships between men involves anal sex... that is a gross generalization made by people who have no real understanding of relationships and use the "well, it's anal and gross, so that's why gays are bad" excuse. Just because two men enjoy a sexual relationship does not mean it involves anal, any more so than a heterosexual relationship (and trust me, there are plenty of straight men who DO love anal sex... just with a woman).

b) Actually, 4% of the US population identifies as LBGTQ... which equates to roughly 12 million people. I was also not aware that love and relationships were races, and we had to quantify the order in which they were presented.


Your rantings here are totally unwarranted and show that you are simply espousing your agenda of hate, without any basis in fact. The very fact that you have no understanding of the history of Star Trek itself, how it has always pushed cultural boundaries, and how SEX, yes, SEX, was always popping up in the show somewhere, shows you aren't really speaking as an informed fan of the series. For crying out loud... we're talking about the show that had an episode banned for years in the south because it had the audacity, in the 1960's, to show a white man kissing a black woman. Star Trek has ALWAYS been about pushing preconceived notions of what constitutes "normal".

Your comments, on the other hand, are just hate, pure and simple.

Of course, that's subjective.

At least with Orville, each new episode is allowing us to learn more about the different crew members. That episode told volumes about the attitudes, culture, personalities, and marriage of Bortus and Klyden.

Character-driven sci-fi with original stories to tell instead of mindless space battles. A bridge crew that watches episodes of Seinfeld on their viewscreen is alright by me. Down-to-earth, laidback, funny and fun.

Nothing more dull than Star Trek:Dreary and their stick up the ***** crew.

A wrong statement repeated over and over again still doesn't make it correct.