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Ouch...looks like Disney has it's third underperformer this year!


A Wrinkle In Time

Solo

And now...Ant-Man and the Wasp.

Tracking has this AT BEST at 75 million OW.

Oh me.

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lol at this point, it seems you are simply incapable of learning from past mistakes....

how many times do you have to JUMP the GUN.....and then turn out disastrously wrong to LEARN NOT TO JUMP THE GUN???


had you not made a bunch of Premature failed troll threads saying it was under performing, not going to top AM1 domestically....You wouldnt look like an idiot right now when AM2 is is easily heading toward a 600 Million + total gross!....


PS....

to you find it ODD....that You spent 2 months defending Ready PLayer One now?

lol lets just take a look here...

Ummmm....Ready player One costs at least 180 Million and reported over 300 Million including Marketing....

it Opened to 53 Million....

Made 137 Million domestically and 587 WW....

lol.....In all cases RPO performed WORSE than AM2.....cost a ton more to make.....Yet you claim RPO is a huge hit....

it cant be both ways queen....


If according to you RPO is a Huge hit for Opening to 53 M, Making 137 M domestically and 587 Million WW....

then AM2 is a MONSTER HIT for opening at 75 M, Making over 200 M domestically, and Topping at least 600 Million WW and A BUDGET MUCH LESS than RPO....

once again Your trolling comes back to bite you....lol

basically I could easily point out 10 different reasons why AM2 is a hit....but its not necessary...All I have to do is use your own Words...

Your OWN TROLLING Proves AM2 is a hit....According to you RPO is a hit....therefor, the much more successful and cheaper AM2 is an even bigger hit!

thank you queen, you didnt know it at the time, But your months of defending RPO turned out to be the Defining WORD of declaring AM2 a GIANT HIT!



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AM2 is "easily heading to 600 million", huh bill?

Only if it explodes in China.

Btw...how are those domestic and worldwide predictions for I2 holding up? 650-700 million domestic? 1.3-1.7 billion WW?


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

P.S.. AM2 budget is upwards of 170 million. That is hardly "MUCH LESS" than RPO's.

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Forbes has predicted it will be over 600 million.

As for blowing up in China, that is very likely. Marvel movies are popular there now. China was what put Spider-Man Homecoming over Wonder Woman.

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We'll see if it gets to 600 million. I doubt it gets there"easily" if it does. It will be like barely crossing over at the end if it's total run at this rate.

I'm guessing it ends up in the 540-550 million range.

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A 540-550 box office would still make this a success, btw.

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I'm guessing it ends up in the 540-550 million range.

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lol If by "Ends Up" you mean "By this Weekend It will Be at 540 to 550 M" then ya

hey queen just wanted to let you know ....


AM2 is heading toward a 70 M+ Opening In China(Biggest ever for SOLO SH film).....

lol once again I repeat....AM2 is easily heading toward 600 M+....and Will EASILY pass you 540 to 550 M prediction by Sunday!


lol Let The Goal Post Moving begin....

first it was "AM2 wont make as much as AM1 domestically".....lol that trolling attempt Was Easily crushed and went down in flames...

Now AM2 will easily Crush your 540 to 550 Million expectations and get to those 600 M+ expectations....

AM2 drastically Out Performed your expectations ALL Around...no other option now queen, just got to hunker down and REFUSE to EXCEPT reality, just keep moving the goal posts and set a new bar....so what if AM2 exceeded all your expectations, so what if you were WRONG about everything you predicted...just go FULL RETARD and FULL TROLL and move the goal posts to 700 Million WW and 250 Million domestically....





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Hey billbrown...how's that "out of control budgets" studio Warner Bros doing this summer?

Profit over profit LOL. Three words...Crazy Rich Asians with a 30 million dollar budget.

And Disney?

Yeah they will get a moderate profit from AM2 and isn't that to be expected at the very least as it is a Marvel movie?

BUT...after the HUGE money-loser A Wrinkle in Time(105 million production budget and 130 million ww gros) and Solo(easily losing AT LEAST 150 million) they also added yet ANOTHER big red-ink flop in Christopher Robin. At LEAST a 75 million dollar budget and it will be lucky to hit 130 million worldwide.

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Yeah they will get a moderate profit from AM2 and isn't that to be expected at the very least as it is a Marvel movie?

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by "Moderate" do mean over 100 M + in profit and More Profitable than AM1?

also thank you for admitting AM2 is a success and hit..I know that most have been hard for you given your relentlessly trolling

But as usual, You finally got to a point where you had to except reality and could no longer fight it...you did the same thing with Thor 3, Black Panther and IW....In all cases, You tried, kept trying, Moved The Goal Posts, but Finally the box office reached a point where you just had to give up

with AM2 I'm sure it was hard, given you first troll by embarrassingly claiming "AM2 wont make as Much as AM1 domestically"

of course, that trolling tactic failed quickly, and were forced to move the goal posts to..."AM2 wont out gross SOLO domestically"

at this point you clearly see thats also going to fail, so once again you moved the goal posts to "declaring AM2 wont top 600 M+"

but its clear you've seen the Box office in China, and Now finally except ALL HOPE is GONE...like with BP, Thor 3 and IW....You finally just GAVE UP and realized the box office was at a point where you cant fight it anymore

so again I thank you...it must have been hard to GIVE UP and admit AM2 is a hit after how hard you fought

PS.....you still have no answer for the RPO problem?

so as we just established, you finally gave up and admitted AM2 is a HIT...but of course due to your hatred for Disney and because of your anger of AM2 proving you wrong and exceeding your predictions, you couldnt just admit it was a HIT......no you had to say " Yeah they will get a moderate profit from AM2 and isn't that to be expected at the very least as it is a Marvel movie?"

So I say to you....WB must be disappointed huh? and you must be Disappointed too huh?

again RPO cost more money to make than AM2 and Made LESS in Box office....

I guess WB Made LESS than A Moderate profit from RPO then huh? ....

lololol

you are more than within your right to continue claiming AM2 is just a moderate hit(Most everyone else will disagree, when a film makes 100 Million + in Profit and Is more successful and profitable than its predecessors, that is considered a BIG hit) but you are entitled to think what you want....

but theres no getting around, If You think and claim AM2 is a moderate hit.....then you can never claim RPO is a BIg hit again, If you believe AM2 is a Moderate hit, then by definition that Means you have to believe RPO is a less than moderate hit....

AM2 costs 162 Million and between 225 to 240 Million with Marketing, Its going to make over 600 Million

RPO Costs 180 Million and upwards of 300 Million in Marketing, It made 587 Million...

lol

Your trolling has it Price.....

You can continue claiming AM2 is only a moderate hit out of SPITE and Anger.....but by doing so, you DAMN RPO....You can no longer claim RPO is a huge hit....

If your going to Spite Troll AM2, then You got to except that Spite Trolling AM2, Damns RPO to LESS than Moderate hit!








BUT...after the HUGE money-loser A Wrinkle in Time(105 million production budget and 130 million ww gros) and Solo(easily losing AT LEAST 150 million) they also added yet ANOTHER big red-ink flop in Christopher Robin. At LEAST a 75 million dollar budget and it will be lucky to hit 130 million worldwide.

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did you know that despite these 3 flops Disney is STILL BILLIONS ahead of every other studio in Profit this year with 2.8 Billion in Profit....

lol even when you win, YOU LOSE queen...

sure Disneys had some flops, But they are still dominating WHICH HAS to KILL YOU....

seriously though, anything thoughts on the RPO problem? I mean you realize as long as you SPITE troll AM2 your sacrificing RPO....

lol I find it hilarious that your trolling comes with consequences.....lololol

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AM2 is "easily heading to 600 million", huh bill?

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Yep...Easily....just had to wait for it to open in China(every box office site and analyst seemed to understand this BUT YOU)


Only if it explodes in China.

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3...2...1.....Explosion has begun.....to a 70 MILLION + OW(Biggest ever for a SOLO SM film)....

Will result in a 115 to 150 Million total gross(IMO closer to 125 M)...resulting in AM2 EASILY topping 600 M+



Btw...how are those domestic and worldwide predictions for I2 holding up? 650-700 million domestic? 1.3-1.7 billion WW?

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Its been a while, but If I'm not mistaken....I believe my prediction was 600 to 625 M+ and A 1.2 Billion + total Gross....(But I did forecast A possible total if the film had excellent legs, and that was between 625 to 700 and 1.2 to 1.5 Billion)

but Thanks?

I kinda NAILED huh?

right now TI2 is at 595 Million and looks to probably slight pass 600 M(I predicted 600 to 625 M)

right now TI2 is at 1.122 Billion(I predicted 1.2 Billion) I should get within 5 to 10 %

ya old Billbrown Nailed it again....

PS....how your JW2 prediction coming?

what was it again 550 to 600 Million domestically and 1.5 to 1.6 Billion +?

whats JW2 at now 412 M domestically and 1.290 B WW....So Only about oh 140 to 190 Million off domestically and about 200 to 300 Million off WW....yep sound right





P.S.. AM2 budget is upwards of 170 million. That is hardly "MUCH LESS" than RPO's.

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lol nice try....But AM2s budget is between 160 to 162 Million

RPO had a Budget of 180 Million and due to low tracking WB spend a TON in a final Marketing push on Advertising that PUT RPO's budget and Marketing over 300 M+

due to the MCUs incredible popularity and insane fanbase and 20 films in a row having good WOM....Disney/Marvel did not have to put near the Marketing into AM2...

AM2 had a Budget 18 to 20 Million LESS than RPO and a Marketing Campaign that could have been 50 Million dollars+ Lower....(AM2 had a smaller Marketing campaign/Budget than AM1)

lol theres no way way around it Queen....AM2 cost MUCH LESS than RPO....


but lets not even argue that for a second, the absurdity here is...You claiming RPO did Great while AM2 is under performing...

you are NOT Arguing that AM2 did NOT cost LESS to make....Your admitting it did, Your just shamelessly trying to argue it didnt cost MUCH LESS....

the Point being....You are admitting AM2 did cost LESS than RPO....

therefor HOW you can claim A Film that COST LESS and Made more money is NOT doing WeLL.....Yet claim A FILM that COST MORE but Made LESS is doing great.....Is Absurd and can ONLY be explained by TROLLING....

RPO costs 180 M, 300 M+ with Marketing-

RPO opened to 53 Million
Made 137 Million domestically
and 587 M WW

YOU claim THIS ^ is great

Yet AM2 cost 162 Million, Maybe 225 to 240 Million with Marketing

AM2 Opened to 75 M
made over 200 Million domestically
and is heading toward a 600 M+ gross

YOU claim THIS ^ is bad

theres no way around it....your claims can only be explained by TROLLING...

They factually dont make sense....

theres no factual way to claim RPO is doing great if You claim AM2 is doing bad....

theres no factual way to claim A film that cost LESS and Made more is doing bad while claiming a film that cost MORE and Made LESS is doing Great

you literally backed yourself into a corner where theres no possible explanation for your statements and claims other than your are TROLLING....

You finally made such Absurd claims, such Absurd statements that when someone final put them together, theres simply no factual explanation for them...there is no possible way they can be true....

They can ONLY be explained as PURE non sense, statements you made while trolling that you never actual thought about it....

By Trolling On AM2....You made your statements you said about RPO Meaningless....

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Well the jury's still out on this one and it looks like the box office haul in China is going to boost AMATW numbers substantially. Could still make 600 million plus. We shall see.

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No the Jury isnt still out, its EASILY going to top $600million.

To put AMATW's performance in China into perspective, Ant Man did $105million in China total......AMATW did $68million in its opening weekend in China.

There is ZERO doubt it will do more than $600million and also has Japan to open in as well.

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