A Film For White People
White people love to see the pain and confusion of Africans.
shareshut up!
"OOOOOOOO, Carlos was just teaching you how to do the mambo?"
This is a story about poor culture, African American Culture and Gay culture all through the eyes of Americans.
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Well said, catrina604.
shareThat's exactly why the film is loved by mainstream white America, if the film had focused on the more successful aspects of black culture, it would have seemed to unbelievable for the white mainstream, unfortunately many white people believe that the black population as a whole is destitute, with the few exceptions of rappers/ballplayers.
shareSo sad that samf2006 lives with so much bias against whites, deluding himself that a film with a black director, screenwriter and cast have spent all their time, talent and energy to pander to the "white mainstream".
Does it not occur to you, sam, that their goal was to impart UNDERSTANDING and COMPASSION to ALL viewers?
Or are you just another troll trying to ruffle feathers with provocative posts.
Probably the latter.
I just speak the truth, it's not my fault that the majority of white people in America are insensitive/ignorant of the black experience in America.
"It's all love".
You've used that "I just speak the truth" line before. Your opinions aren't truth.
As Eldridge Cleaver said, “If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem." How are your biased generalizations about whites part of the solution to race relations?
BTW: you only express pejorative views about whites. How sensitive to/knowledgeable of the black experience do you think asians and latinos are?
Opinion or truth: Africans were brought to America aganist their will by white/Europeans.
Opinion or truth: Africans were forced to labor as slaves by white/Europeans.
Opinion or truth: Africans in Africa were colonized by white/Europeans.
Opinion or truth: Africans in America were forced to give up their language, culture, and religion, to accept the white/Europeans language, culture and religion.
" Man, created God out of ignorance and fear"
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" Man, created God out of ignorance and fear"
Why do you assume it's for white people? Goddamn it can we just have a GOOD movie where idiots like you don't race bait us into thinking about s**t we never even thought about? When I saw this movie I just saw what it was: a good movie. WTF are you seeing?
shareIt's a matter of perception.
" Man, created God out of ignorance and fear"
I know these message boards are going to die soon so there's probably no point, but hey, why not try, give it a good final go lol
samf2006 I read through the whole thing. I'm white, so my opinion might not matter to you... Or might it, I don't know. But I don't purposefully seek out movies that depict African Americans suffering and dysfunctional etc because it makes me feel reassured about my whiteness or anything like that at all. Speaking for myself. I mean, I do sometimes seek out movies with dysfunction in general (white, african american, a plethora foreign films from a range of countries...really, a LOT) because I go for that kind of drama. I watched Moonlight this year because people were saying it seemed good, I also watched Lion and Manchester by the Sea and other crap lol and I wanted to see the oscar contenders. But back to your point, yes there do seem to be a lot of movies with dysfunction from the black community that I've watched too (like the Medea movies lol, and Precious and For Colored Girls, Mississippi Damned, etc.) But again, I swear I'm not seeking them out because they fit a mental white narrative of "look suffering black people" but because frankly the plots seem more interesting than a lot of mainstream movies. I've watched a *beep* of creepy ass perverted/dysfunctional "white people" movies too lol, dysfunctional foreign films, all that. I just like ... maybe I'm just one that likes seeing a certain degree of pain and confusion in films in general, no matter who, because it makes me feel less alone in my own life shh. And they are more deep than the usual mainstream tripe (like countless MArvel/Avengers movies or whatever the heck which I avoid.) But I've watched others too that aren't all dysfunction (as far as movies with mostly all african american cast), like Jumping the Broom, that had some family drama but not anymore than your average "wedding romantic comedy mishap" movie.
Anyway...But I'll take your point...that okay, while watching the dysfunctional movies with African Americans is just because I'm interested in interesting movies...and, though I grew up in a diverse area, obviously I'm not African American myself so I can't relate to being that, but really when I watch movies I like seeing connections between people from all races, cultures, different backgrounds, to see those relate-able things we have in common, the humanity, no matter what the life/struggle. So for me, same goes for these, like connecting to the emotional part, you know, seeing how people handle the crap they're dealt in life, no matter what race.
So no, for me it's not like "good look at them struggling" :(
I got off track Okay so all that said....But no, there aren't a ton of movies representing African Americans out there, and there does seem to be a higher proportion of dysfunctional ones, so maybe that is part of what bothers you.
What is your suggestion to make it better? Or if we lived in a perfect world (ha that's a joke) what kind of movies would you want to see or rather see? I mean this one, as others pointed out, was written/direct by an African American so it's not like it was a made-up white narrative, though I see your point still that there does seem to be a higher amount of this "type" of movie. I mean I do see your point, overall, but it doesn't apply to me (I hope!) and I really am interested what kind of movies you think would work better and how you think that could ever happen? (Beyond just more diversity in all mainstream films in general. I know that's still "default-white")
Aaaaaaaand will you see this post before IMDb blasts these boards into oblivion? that's the true question
As far as Moonlight, it was all right. lol. I wish it delved more into the characters themselves and less a lot of pauses and dings of music and standing/staring. I was intrigued when the characters had actual dialogue but that oddly seemed few and far between. I liked watching the adult Chiron act because he was good at still showing that shy, taciturn person he was inside once things got personal.