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Taking Eleven away from her friends is messed up

posted 6 years ago by Mister Babadook (2708)
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I just didn't like that at all at the end when she moved away with Will and his family. I mean Eleven still isn't fully adjusted to normal life and still can't complete certain sentences, and all her friends in Hawkins understands her and knows her. I just think its shitty shes gonna have to go to a new town where no one knows about her and will probably think shes weird.

Her father just died and now you're taking her away from the only friends shes ever known? I just think thats messed up..

[–] chrisjdel (2714) 6 years ago

All the kids would've been happier staying put. But as a parent you'd have to be asking yourself at this point, do I really want to stay here in this deathtrap of a town? Hawkins has racked up a pretty impressive body count. Joyce is thinking in terms of keeping her sons - and new adopted daughter - out of danger. Plus every time she gets close to someone they die. A lot of bad memories she wants to leave behind. I can understand why she's moving away.

[–] ATG6 (3000) 6 years ago

Danger is going to follow Elle though.

[–] Mister Babadook (2708) 6 years ago

Exactly its not like that shits just contained to Hawkins, and at least in Hawkins El has all her friends to help her.

[–] chrisjdel (2714) 6 years ago

I didn't say it was healthier for the kids to be uprooted and separated like this. Only that I can understand Joyce's point of view. She's trying to do what's best, as she sees it.

[–] ATG6 (3000) 6 years ago

Well someone had to actually adopt her. Kudos to Winona for stepping up. Kids can adapt to moving, it's good for them.

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 6 years ago

I agree, but she will of course, be back.

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[–] LTUM (1071) 6 years ago

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[–] ill-famed (22) 6 years ago

It's not messed up on Joyce's part to move away, it's messed up on all the others' part to stay in that monster-infested death trap of a town and endanger their children. They should've moved out all together, under a government-provided relocation program or something.

[–] chrisjdel (2714) 6 years ago

The government should've come up with some reason to declare that town uninhabitable, and relocate the residents. Leave a small military base and some monitoring stations there to keep an eye on the dimensional weak spot - that way if something happens, like the gate starts being opened from the other side, they'll have advance warning. We know they can contain the Mind Flayer if they set up a perimeter on all sides (including underneath) and burn daily. They can also make sure the Russians stay out!

Civilians shouldn't be living there anymore. It's not safe. I'd be surprised if we don't find out in season 4 that the town is basically dying. People moving out in droves. If it was me, I would tell my kids they can hate me all they want, we're getting the fuсk out of this place. For a town the size of Hawkins the number of recent dead under bizarre and suspicious circumstances puts it at least on par with the most crime infested neighborhoods in the country.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7366) 6 years ago

I kinda agree and I kinda disagree.

I think she should stay with her friends because she really needs a sense of normalcy and they do understand her in a way no one else can. But at the same time, kids can adapt. At least she'll be doing it in a regular family, going to a regular school, with a decent parent like Joyce who doesn't rage out every second and never quits on her kids even when everything and everyone is against her. I like him as a character, but Hopper is a terrible dad who kept her in a cabin and never once knew where to lay any boundaries.

Plus, she won't be completely alone. Will and Johnathan will be there. Will is kind of younger than the others, so she will never feel like she is behind him in any way. And, as useless as his is in general, Johnathan seems like a decent older brother. We know he can win in a fight and his stealthy stalking skills are on point.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

To me it just made no sense that Joyce instantly became the one caring for Eleven. Especially since neither Joyce, Will or Jonathan had a special connection to Eleven. Will was gone for all of season one when the other kids bonded with Eleven, and then he was controlled by the mindflare in season 2. I don't recall a single scene when Joyce and Eleven had some sort of mother/daughter moment.

The reasoning behind this seems so childish:

Jim was Eleven's adoptive father. Him and Joyce kinda had a thing going. Jim is gone...so Joyce is now the adoptive mother of Eleven! Makes perfect sense!

[–] chrisjdel (2714) 6 years ago

Joyce is one of the few people in Hawkins who knows everything and has a history with Eleven. The only alternative I see is the Wheelers, and that could be ... problematic. We don't know exactly how the season 1 situation got resolved in their home. Mike always went to Hopper's and El never went there. Ted Wheeler may be oblivious but I think Karen would take one look at her (even with hair) and remember that picture Brenner showed her of the "Russian" girl.

I'm sure they know Mike is dating Hopper's daughter but probably not that she's that girl. Plus would they really be okay with the idea of their son's girlfriend living with them? And what would Mike tell them about her past - the lab, the Upside Down, the Mind Flayer? With her powers at least temporarily gone they'd never believe the story and there's no way to prove it. So, make up an entire life history from scratch? One that somehow makes sense of the government's interest in her and her adoption by Jim Hopper? Good luck with that.

[–] Nauru-1 (14) 5 years ago

I was worried they would go this route, but ST3 kind of put a damper on several of the characters' relationships with each other that I probably wound up caring about this less, sorry to say.

I think you make a fair point though, and I'd also argue that if concerns over any ongoing dangers in Hawkins are a motivation for going, to leave the others as sitting ducks is a pretty disappointing concession after all they've been through. They're kind of asking for it if the other kids are to become a casualty given all that. Then again, it seems it was mainly Mike who has always rightfully preached team effort, and nobody listened to him this season.