Misogynists and racists COMPLAIN gender and race shouldn't be a factor

It's true that racists and incels complain about ANY non-white getting white-level attention, but some complaints aren't without merit here

The "girl power" scene was contrived, because there was no logical in-movie reason for them all to be there at that place at that moment.

It made sense in "Infinity War" because Okoye and Natasha actually discuss Wanda's value as a field-asset, so they'll logically want to protect her.

In "Endgame," Carol, Pepper and Valkyrie were near Peter, but none of the others were. Wanda was behind them, holding Thanos back. Hope was at the van, THEIR OBJECTIVE, so she effectively ran back across the field from the goal line just to join the girls' team. And Mantis, Nebula and Gamora had NO reason to be at that spot.

When the film does that, it's actually ANTI-feminist, because it's HIGHLIGHTING their gender, and in so doing, marginalizing with damning praise.

In contrast, though, the racist complaints are just stupid. There's nothing about Sam being black that makes him the better choice for Steve's shield.

Bucky's heavily compromised, brainwashed or no, and very clearly seems tired of the fight. He was clearly happier farming in Wakanda.

Sam's a war hero, already dedicated to helping others (initially at the VA). They didn't outright say it, but I got the impression that Steve's support group in the first act was actually the remnants of Sam's old support group.

That's the big difference - Sam's the right choice for soooo many reasons, none of which are his race. The "girl power" scene was all about gender, and ONLY about gender, having NO logical support beyond gender.

Oh and complaining about Rhody is just dumb. He would NEVER adopt the mantle of "Iron Man" out of respect for his friend. There's nothing in the film to remotely suggest that'll happen.

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No one is complaining about race and gender. They are complaining about the films they love being ruined by people who happen to be obsessed with race and gender.

Black Panther was mostly a good film, because Ryan Coogler is a good director with a passion for the comics. It had some stupid things in it like how they should help people who "look like them", which is racist if you think about it, but as long as the film is good I can let it go. The same thing goes for the "she's not alone" scene in Infinity War. It didn't detract from the film, so I'm fine with it. Captain Marvel turning into the worst film in the MCU was a bitter pill to swallow. The worst part of the whole film was the "I'm just a girl" scene. That scene pushed a mediocre film over the edge to being a turd. And the "she's got help" scene was the worst part of Endgame, and soured what was otherwise an ecstatic third act.

People get mad when the fiction they love is ruined by people who don't love the material but are interested in making propaganda instead.

W-H-A-T-E-V-E-R....

I see your propaganda is extra strong today. Guess you're miffed that "Captain flat-ass" didn't get more screen time.

By the way, did you see the same movie everyone else saw? Roddy/War Machine and Nebula were both crucial characters and got lots of screen time, compared to other characters. It was great to see, especially as both had always played supporting roles only. They stepped out more in this final movie and I never once thought about their race or gender. They are who they are and they were wonderful.

Seriously dude, who gives an F about your silly identity politics! There is NO place for that in comic book movies. Period.

Frogarama wrote:
But wait... If gender and race don't matter, then why are they complaining about the MINOR and likely temporary (or limited) scaleback of overt white domination and overt male domination?

But wait...it's because it fundamentally doesn't matter to them. There exists, however, extremely whiny and hypocritical SJWs -- who themselves are bigots -- that force them to have to pay attention to it. They do so begrudgingly, which is perfectly understandable. Guys like you who are both self-righteous and wrong most of the time are irritating.

Its the same game that was played during slavery and Jim Crow. The bigots played identity politics that said if you're not white then you don't count. Then when the opposition said "we do count" the bigots complained about identity politics.

The wording of the OP is kinda aggressive, but I can't disagree with it.

The complaints about Captain Marvel don't make sense. She's apparently emasculating, even though her closest allies at different points in the film are mainly male. The whole film is ruined because of one "contrived" minute-long scene, whereas the entire plot of Endgame is contrived, but the film isn't ruined. In fact, a lot of Marvel films are full of contrivance - Captain America: The First Avenger comes to mind. The 'girl power' scene IS specifically making a point about gender politics in the 90s - why is that a problem? Women do face specific issues regarding their gender, especially women in male-dominated fields. I was reading an article in May of 2019, this year, that discusses the rise of assault in the military due specifically to the 50% increase of assaults on women. Here's a link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/military-sexual-assault.html

As for the "feminist" scene in Endgame, I agree that it's virtue-signalling. But the reason it's terrible is because it highlights how sexist the MCU is. It's a false nod at feminism, saying "look, we have women heroes" when that really isn't the case 99% of the time. Are people actually mad for that reason, or are people mad because women were featured for like a split second? I wish I knew the answer to this.

As for racism, what are the actual complaints? Are people mad at the very small amount of people of colour in the films? If so, seems excessive.

All of the complaints against gender and race regarding the MCU films seem overblown imo. You don't have to like the films, but if you personally feel emasculated because of one female led and one POC led film, I think your masculinity might be too fragile for film viewing.

Shouldn't discussions like this be in the Politics discussion board? What does this have to do with Avengers: Endgame. It is so frustrating to see politics and agendas spoiling everything. Just discuss the movie here. Go to Politics boards to have politically inspired rants.