Of course, he is nuts, he is a Villian after all, if he weren't nuts, he would probably be a hero, which he is if you asked him. He truly believes he's doing the right thing.
Yes, you are right, is not a long-term solution, he is an Eternal, so he can stick around for a while, and now that he has the Infinity Gauntlet, he can just snap his fingers every X millennia and get everything back to balance. I guess that's his plan form now on.
He does not need to tell anyone, some worlds may get pissed of to whatever deity they pray on, I don't think Thanos cares too much, which again he's a Villian he doesn't have to behave ethically. Otherwise, he'll be a hero. Perhaps some worlds will destroy themselves with civil war after that, and some will disappear, I guess Thanos would call them weak, and not think about it anymore. You are taking some specific conclusions about specific words, which not necessarily revoke the premise that Thanos is an excellent Villian fro MCU, yes words may get destroyed, people will die, and wars will start after the snap, but Thanos has accomplished his goal, overpopulation and saturation, by killing half the universe. I think for example the TV show "Leftovers" would be a good perspective of what would happen in semi-developed worlds that faced what Thanos has done, without knowing where it came from.
Your idea is that Thanos is not a good Villian because, even though it's well developed, "he is nuts and isn't into long-term solutions and isn't into change". As I said, of course, he is nuts. And perhaps, it's not a long-term solution (if you understand long-term as forever solution), even tough I think is pretty safe to say that he would only need to snap his fingers once in every thousand of millennia, to keep the goal, so in my opinion is a pretty long-term solution. It would require maintenance, but all solutions require maintenance.
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fishpan (544)
7 years ago
Sure Thanos can stick around but his plan as stated to Gamora was to half the population and then sit somewhere quiet. No mention of coming back and forth to ensure his 'balance' is kept. Last shot isn't him monitoring the universe and the fall out that is why I don't see him as a 'good' villain.
Killmonger, Loki, the Grandmaster and even Hela had long term plans even if they weren't sustainable. But they are all willing to be part of the reality they forge and have an idea of where they will be in it. Thanos' plan well, even though he's developed to me is akin to Ronan.
Because yeah, he does need to tell people. The chaos of New York shows that and even your comparison to the Leftovers show that as that was only about 3% disappearing if I remember rightly. Nations destablised, cults emerged. Now imagine 50% disappearing, not just on one world but all at differing stages of development. In real life you have examples of the same thing - look at the black death
So Thanos snapping his fingers to wipe out half the population will in end probably end in a lot more than half the population disappearing as the people left will go through major societal shifts that probably won't be done peacefully. Which means balance isn't achieved, Thanos' balance is an illusion that only exists in his own mind. Because think of the likes of the Sovereign in GoTG2, when they get their crap together they will want payback for half their prefect population disappearing or going to take advantage of it & they have the tech, will & ability to basically wipe out or take over other planets if they think that is a way to get it. So where is that balance?
To get real balance means hard work, little steps and long term reasoning - Tony turning to clean energy, Cap not being willing to fold to shifting political agendas, T'Challa opening up Wakanda, The ravagers being willing to work to a code that means they will protect planets if someone is too out there.
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AP (5288)
7 years ago
I got the impression that he knows it will take time for people to bounce back but when they do, it will be better than it once was. His talk with Gamora indicated this. This is pure speculation on my part, but I think he also knows some people will be wiped out entirely. The Asgardians are as good as dead, let's face it. Meanwhile, Groot was apparently a rare species and he disappeared all the same. I think he's okay with some races disappearing in the grand scheme of things.
Sure, there are still flaws, but that's what makes him a villain. There were flaws in Killmonger's and Loki's plans but that didn't make them bad characters.
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fishpan (544)
7 years ago
Yeah there are flaws with Killmonger and Loki's plans but they seem better thought out than Thanos' and I say that because of his response to Gamora that he just plans to sit back and smile.
Because yes I think he simply thinks people will bounce back with time and sure he gets he will lose some species but I don't think he has thought about the scale of the chaos he has brought and how that means his idea of balance means nothing. His talk about Gamora's people having full bellies belies one fact - they know why half their population was culled - Thanos wanted it that way. They got an outside force came in, halfed their population, told them why and then left. They got it, were able to rationalise it, join together because they get the why.
Now think of the after credits scene in Infinity war and then extrapolate New York to the rest of the world as the people who truly know what is going on have been deemed criminals and are in an isolated country that most of the world knows nothing about. Now half the population just disappeared, what would happen? Governmental collapse and more fighting over who is too blame, why, resources for survival, is it God, which version of God, was the deaths due to the survivors being decided they weren't worthy? Or it was judgement on society being too decedent. Nuclear countries would see it as an attack on them and put into protocol strikes. Russia attacks US US attacks Russia and China, etc etc etc. Religious extremes rise in every religion and they go at each other because the majority of the people don't know why.
For Thanos to have balance he can't sit back, he needs to continually tinker with reality but that hasn't been shown in this film
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AP (5288)
7 years ago
Loki's plans aren't really well thought out. He finds himself in different situations and makes decisions on the fly to what might suit him. He's wildly impulsive, which is why his plans go awry and it's what eventually got him killed. He's like the Joker. He's not a guy with a plan. He just does things.
As for Killmonger, you can say the same thing about his plan that you can about Thanos'. If he cares about his people, he should know that destabilizing Western powers will cause global catastrophes, particularly to the black people in the US who he is supposedly trying to help. That's before we get into how overly simplistic it is to just ship high-tech weapons to millions of people who are from vastly different countries, cultures, religions, languages, economic statuses, etc and except them all to do his bidding. It was ultimately a stupid idea. He was just blinded by his own idealism.
The same goes for Thanos. Of course his plan won't work. Of course it's insane. If he sat down and thought things through, he would probably cease to be a villain.
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