Season 4. How good is it since Morgan is in it?
So far Im caught up on the show with from Seasons 1 to 3.
Havent watched Season 4 yet but just bought it recently.
Is Season 4 better since it has Morgan?
Season 4 is a complete game-changer for this series, which was stale and formulaic since S1 and near unwatchable by S3 to me. S4 is probably one of my favorite seasons of any show in the past decade. It's not just Morgan that's the difference, it's a handful of wonderful new characters, the loss of other dull, uninteresting characters, and some fresh new plotlines and villains.
sharewell thats your opinion about Seasons 1 to 3.
I happen to like Seasons 1 to 3 last time i watched them was like a year and half ago when I got them for DVD.
the druggie son was the only person i couldnt stand since he kept wandering off all the time.
Of course it's my opinion, that's why I said "to me." Watch and see if you agree.
sharei dont have to watch Seasons 1-3 again to "agree" with you. I liked Seasons 1 through 3.
Im asking if Season 4 gets really good or not because of Morgan being in it
Jeez, I thought it was a pretty thorough answer I gave, you're just really hung up on me not enjoying 1-3 as much as you. (Why is "agree" in quotations?)
I already answered your question. In my opinion.
I both agree with you on FTWD, but on the rudeness and stupidity of urrutiap to not allow you the freedom of you own opinion without attacking you or insisting he is right.
shareAren't like all the characters from the first few episodes all dead now?
shareSpoilers for OP, but yes, except one. (That's one of the reasons it's better now than it used to be, the bland, unlikeable characters are gone.)
shareYes!
More than one though ... Strand, Alisha, Daniel ... and I keep thinking that the mom is going to show up alive at some point ... maybe just hopeful because I like Kim Dickens a lot.
I agree with you!
The show went from blegh, to WOW! just from watching the first episode of season 4!
I think the first 3 seasons are good in that they gave us Daniel and Alisha. Strand is good, but he can never be fully trusted and he shows time and time again that he considers himself "number 1" at the end of the day and will screw over anyone as long as it greatly benefits him. Its hard to like a character that continually screws over other characters you root for.
Morgan Jones (Lennie James) was needed and made this show so much better. Season 4, 5, and I just watched 6, have been getting better and better!
To the original poster, if you liked seasons 1-3 so much, be prepared to be blown away by how much you like the show from season 4 and onward! You'll have to restrain yourself from binge watching!
Oh, forgot about Daniel somehow, make that 2 characters still alive from the first few episodes.
shareIts understandable you forgetting, They dont touch on what happened to Daniel until season 5! But I was immensely happy when I saw he was alive! : )
But if you count Victor Strand, it would be three.
I had to edit, I looked it up and sure enough Daniel was alive at the end of season 3, but we do not see him again until season 5! Even I forgot he was absent completely from season 4!
Yeah, that’s why I forgot!
I purposely didn’t include Strand though because he wasn’t in the “first few episodes” as the above poster asked about; he had one brief scene in the season 1 finale.
I considered that, because Strand wasnt shown in season 1 until maybe fourth episode? He was in the detainment camp and met Nicholas there. He was important since he had that yacht and literally lead them right into season 2. So I would count him, personally.
Its interesting to think back at how many people from the first season are still in the show, and if you go by who is still here from the very first episode it comes down to only one!
The Walking Dead has a similar aspect, seeing how few people are still in that show from the first season or very first episode.
Oh, I was under the impression Daniel was in the pilot, was he not until ep2? You're probably right; I've only seen each episode once.
I believe it was actually the final scene of the S1 finale where Strand is introduced, so I always kinda thought of him as a S2 character, even though he appears in one scene in S1, kinda like Michonne appearing in the last moments of S2 of TWD; I would always consider her a S3 character.
Yeah, I guess it's only Daryl and Carol left from TWD S1...no one left from the first episode, right?
Daniel first appeared at the end of episode 2, he gave shelter to Travis, his son, and his ex-wife in his barber shop when the riots happened.
Strand had more than a fleeting scene, he was in episode 5 and 6 of season one. Theres only 6 episodes total for season one, which means he starred in 1/3 total of season one. Thats why I counted him, the season is short and he has enough screen time.
Im assuming Rick Grimes is alive somewhere but yes hes not in these past couple of seasons! And Morgan Jones was from the pilot episode of the Walking Dead, but now he's in a different series. I still count him because he has survived this long from the very first episode! Daryl and Carol were not in the pilot episode! They didnt show up until episode 3!
If you wanna get real technical, no one from the pilot episode of the Walking Dead is still on the Walking Dead show xD
I thought Daniel was the neighbor to the mother .. Kim Dickens ... who I really like is just about anything. But it has been so long and I did not really like FTWD S1-3.
shareNo, he was just a barbershop owner, who had an apartment above his barbershop, that gave Travis shelter when all heck broke loose during the first riots.
Daniel and his family followed Travis as they had strength in numbers and new they needed to get out of the city.
They were lucky they met Daniel as we later find out he is a bad@ss that gets things done!
I agree, seasons 1-3 are the weaker seasons, but they do set up a few important characters later into the current seasons. If you skip the first three seasons, and jump into season 4 you will miss out on discovering Daniels backstory as a former "Bruiser" General for a Dictator in South America. And you wouldnt see Alishas development of character. Also Strands constant turmoil of trying not to be the anti-hero but constantly reverting to his seditious ways to come out a winner.
Oh yeah ... that's right. Thanks. I am not suggesting anyone watch or not watch anything, just saying I really did not like S1-3.
shareMorgan Jones (Lennie James) not only made FTWD better, but he rescued the irritating character of Morgan on TWD and brought new life to the character. It was really wonderful, and John Dorie too was a great character, with June as well.
shareI was frustrated how Morgan in the Walking Dead was trying so hard to be pacifist, because he was one of the greatest fighters on the show!
I agree that Morgan Jones character arc improves during his time in Fear The Walking Dead.
I also enjoyed that Dwight (the guy with the burned face who worked for Negan reluctantly) shows up and his arc becomes more fulfilled! He finds his wife again and they didnt string that out too long either. : )
Yeah ... the Dwight arc was really good ... which is why to me all the failings of the show are so disappointing.
sharei couldn't get thru much of it, even when one of my favorite actors, garret dilahunt, joined the cast, i could only get thru a few episodes and bailed,
fuck this show