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Does this movie examine or address actual racism at any point?


You know? Acknowledge that racism is a thing, and that it's bad and show examples of what it is?

Or does it just engage with people it wishes to discredit and by extension discredit any and all attempts to recognize racism and manage the detriment it cause to society?

And by acknowledging actual racism, I don't mean fishing out an example of racism towards a white person and going "See?! There's the ACTUAL racism."

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its meant to discredit people who've turned racism into a career.

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"its meant to discredit people who've turned racism into a career."

Oh. So people who have careers are a bad thing? Such as people who write books? Give lectures, and teach on racial issues, and have careers? They deserve to be discredited?

For actually working? Contributing to the economy , in an era of increased labor shortages?
But if they've made a career out of anything related to racial issues or equality, they are automatically horrible people? At least they have a job. They work and generate income.

But yes, let's discredit people who have careers, got educations, work and contribute.

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So people who have careers are a bad thing?

If their career is race hustling, yes. Yes it absolutely is.

Such as people who write books? Give lectures, and teach on racial issues, and have careers? They deserve to be discredited?

Again, yes. These people are doing more than just earning money and writing scholarly articles, they are sowing division and hatred in society.

For actually working? Contributing to the economy , in an era of increased labor shortages?

By this same rationale, being a contract killer, or a drug dealer, or a pimp should not be condemned. After all, they're just earning a living, and they pump the money they earn back into the economy, so they're working too. If they hurt people... pshaw. What's that compared to the good they do for the economy?

But if they've made a career out of anything related to racial issues or equality, they are automatically horrible people? At least they have a job. They work and generate income.

Yes, they're horrible people. When you set people against each other and stir up bitterness, division, animosity and discord, that is not an honorable way to earn a living. Deliberate mischief making is not to our society's benefit.

But yes, let's discredit people who have careers, got educations, work and contribute.

If their "contribution" increases social strife and tears apart our society, yes, by all means, let's discredit them. They are gremlins, sabotaging the machinery of a well-running society, and whatever slight good they do by earning and spending money, is far outweighed by the damage they do to our country's social cohesion and civil society.

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stop making sense

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Who exactly are "these people" that are supposedly earning money talking about racism? Oprah Winfrey? Ta Nehisi Coates? And How is that sowing division and hatred? Simply writing a book on race from their perspective? It's America, do they not have a write to capitalize on a book and get it published? In the land of capitalism $$$? Why is it bad that they've made income and a living? Why is it so bad to simply talk about race? How does that make someone a horrible person?

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BLM, for one. Ever wondered where that came from? Ever wondered why corporate media painted a picture of an angel being chocked by a demon, where it was anything but that?

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Who exactly are "these people" that are supposedly earning money talking about racism?

Have you been living under a rock? They've been around for decades some of them. Some are more recent, but they are well known. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are the old guard among the race hustlers. More recent are the likes of Henry Rogers (AKA Ibram X. Kendi) and Robin DiAngelo. Walsh features several more in this movie. Shaun King and Rachel Dolezal are white pretenders who have gotten in on the action.

These are the people Booker T. Washington warned everyone about a century ago when he said: “There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

It's America, do they not have a write to capitalize on a book and get it published? In the land of capitalism $$$? Why is it bad that they've made income and a living?

Once again, by that logic, there is nothing wrong with being a pimp or a drug dealer. Human trafficking is just another career.

Earning a living in such a way that does harm to others, is dishonorable. How is that I actually have to explain this to you?

Why is it so bad to simply talk about race? How does that make someone a horrible person?

Oh they do more than "simply talk about race," and you damn well know it. They sell the idea that white people and Western civilization are uniquely wicked, that being white is somehow inherently evil, and thus help justify anti-white racism. They pit groups of people against each other. They do harm.

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Okay. I only read one sentence of your way too long, meandering post.

You call out Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton makes more sense than anyone on MSNBC and is one of the most clear-thinking, intelligent speakers on the entire left. That's all I have to say.

I'm sorry, but Al Sharpton makes sense. He makes A LOT of sense. He's eloquent, well spoken, and he knows what he's talking about. If that's who you want to go after, that's who you want to blame... I think I'm finished with this argument.

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There was nothing long or meandering about my post. That's a BS cop out to avoid answering questions you can't answer honestly without conceding points to your opponent.

Al Sharpton is a race-hustling scumbag, who has never apologized for supporting proven liar Tawana Brawley in 1987, or in fanning the flames of a riot in which a Jewish rabbinical scholar had been stabbed to death in 1991. For the past three decades, Sharpton has used his National Action Network to squeeze cash out of major corporations by threatening them with boycotts based on allegations of racism.

Al Sharpton is a lying, grifting, anti-semitic slimeball who has made himself rich from race hustling. That's all I have to say.

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Race-hustling sounds alot more like what you're doing. In fact, I think that's what's happening. You are hustling race issues for political gain , where as Al Sharpton speaks about race issues, because he cares about it.

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I generally hate to respond with LOL, but in this case nothing else fits. This is ludicrously bass ackward.

Al Sharpton doesn't speak about race issues "because he cares about it," he does it because it makes him rich. (He'd be richer still if he didn't owe millions in back taxes.) He raked in $1,046,948 from his own charity in 2018. His salary is never less than six figures. He sold the rights to his life story to his own charity for $531,000.

Race-hustling doesn't sound remotely like what I'm doing. I'm not making a penny off it; Sharpton is making millions.

Your moral inversion is absolute: you see people who criticize grifters as grifters, and refuse to see the actual grifters for what they are, despite all the documented skeezy crap they've done. Up is down. Black is white.

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stop making sense

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Then we'll just have to agree to disagree. Race-hustling is randomly bringing up the issue of 'race' when it has no relevance. Like getting mad at a black guy for simply talking about race on television, and making an issue out of it: THAT's race hustling.

I'm not making a penny off it; Sharpton is making millions.

1. He's not race hustling
2. Once again, and this is a very important point in America: WHAT IS WRONG WITH MAKING MONEY IN AMERICA?? There's NOTHING wrong with making money in America, the land of the $$$ where everyone respects money above all else. Obivously you're just upset because he's made more money than you.

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1. He's not race hustling


He's absolutely race hustling. He's been doing it his whole life. For decades now, every time there is a racially charged incident, anywhere in the U.S., Sharpton gets a on a plane and inserts himself into it. He's managed to turn this into a career, and he's made himself wealthy doing it. This is the textbook definition of race hustling, and it's exactly what Booker T. Washington warned about.

2. Once again, and this is a very important point in America: WHAT IS WRONG WITH MAKING MONEY IN AMERICA??

Once again, there's plenty wrong with it, when you make money by doing harm. Stoking division, perpetuating grievances, and sowing sectarian strife does society harm, and sometimes leads to violence in which people get physically hurt, even killed.

Now you're seriously pissing me off. If there's one thing I simply cannot abide it's willful obtuseness. I absolutely despise people who play stupid and keep asking a question that's already been answered.

Obivously you're just upset because he's made more money than you.

Again, LOL.

Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, the late Steve Jobs, there's an endless list of people who are richer than I'll ever dream of being, and I don't resent or dislike them, because they made their money by improving society, not damaging it. Sharpton makes his money pitting people against each other. He's a fucking parasite.

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Darren: you are far too smart for the room. But trying to reason with this Chupacabra guy is as futile, to quote Thomas Paine, as administering medicine to the dead.

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As soon as you praise Al Sharpton as some kind of reasonable figure in this debate, you lose credibility. You must be trolling or joking.

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That poster is not trolling or joking. They are a white liberal. Those are the only people that take Al seriously.

MX warned his people about white liberals.

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You said exactly what I was thinking. Chumba is not trolling though.

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Why would the movie explicitly "acknowledge that racism is a thing"? Everyone with a functioning brain knows it exists, and the film makes no claim to the contrary. Walsh simply exposes appalling race grifters.

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That's not grifting. Grifting is selling 100 dollar digital trading cards of yourself. Grifting is selling 100,000 dollar Trump watches. That's grifting.

Simply talking about race and having a discussion isn't "grifting". Being a University professor who talks about race is absolutely not, in any way, the definition of "grifting".

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Obvious bad faith comment. The people Walsh targets aren't innocently "talking about race", as you well know. They're making money by shilling BS seminars, lectures, and writings that sow division and bolster racism.

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It does dive pretty deep into theories about systemic racism in America, although it makes it look kind of flimsy at it's core. There are several scenes of Walsh reading from "racism" books and it great detail too. So, yeah, it acknowledges that there are some people that "believe" there's an abundance of racism in the nation but this documentary also demonstrates that it's hardly a big concern for most black people.

The fact is, if racism was such a huge problem in this nation, there is no way Barack Obama would have won not only once, but twice. Whites, Hispanics, Asians, etc... would have come out in droves to vote against him.

For the most part, Am I Racist exposes the sad truth about the people that push race narratives. I suppose you could call it "exposing reverse racism" and the huge amounts of money these people are making off of it. It's quite disturbing to know the kind of money their making off this.

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So no. It doesn't examine racism.

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Of course it doesn't. Anyone who has to ask the question "Am I Racist?" .......... It's a looking-for-sympathy question. They want you to accept the inclination they aren't racist, and follow along their arguments as to why they 'aren't' .

The whole movie is a supposition that you accept the notion the filmmaker is NOT racist. IF you don't accept that from that start, like you're supposed to, the movie's not going to work.

It's just a way of dictating to the viewer their specific viewpoint of the filmmaker, without leaving any room for any criticism. Sort of like a propaganda piece. All documentaries are propaganda in some form or another. I would know, I took documentary cinema in college. *cough* Nanook of the North *cough*

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Totally.

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Why should it "examine racism"? It actually does examine racism to some extent.

However, this documetary is about examining those that push fake narratives about racism and then line their pockets with money from doing this. I suggest watching the film, then decide if it needs to examine racism in a broader term.

I saw this documentary and personally, I don't think its a requirement that it goes knee deep into racism. We all know racism exists. AiR isn't a lecture on how awful racism is, it's an examination on how twisted some views on racism are.

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So it's about "anti-racism" being the real problem. And not racism.

Oh how brave and clever.

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Brave and clever? Yep, in a time like this, it is brave to do a documentary like this. Most of the violence we've seen in this nation over the last 10 years or so is coming from left-wing types like the ones Walsh exposes in this doc.

Walsh is putting his ass on the line to make a doc like this. But if you really want to know the message he is getting out in his film, then you gotta watch it. But you were never interested in doing this, you just wanted to play "clever guy wrecks Walsh's narrative".

Personally, I don't really like Walsh that much but he makes some valid points in this film. You can either watch it or continue to try to sound clever by pointing out flaws in a film that you've never seen, which is not a very smart thing to do.

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You ok, flower?

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Coward!

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“Am I Racist exposes the sad truth about the people that push race narratives.”

People like Matt Walsh

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He challenges them, rather than push them.

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Lol

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Define “actual racism”.

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I'm not the one making a documentary absolving myself of any racism.

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Neither is Matt Walsh. I say again, define “actual racism”.

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Lol

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Thought so.

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Why is his movie titled "Am I racist?"

Does he answer this question?

How does he reach his conclusion?

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Why don’t you watch it yourself and find out?

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No.

I've already been told what's important about it, according to its fans. It makes examples of and discredits some figures who advocate for anti-racism.

Nobody is able to tell us anything else about the movie besides that. I believe if the movie answered the questions I've asked, then someone would have mentioned it by now. But people are only keen to talk about how Matt supposedly owns a couple of libs.

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If you’re not satisfied with that the fans told you, then the only thing left to do is to watch the movie yourself if you want your very basic questions answered.


You still haven’t defined what “actual racism” is.

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It matters if the movie defines what racism is before answering the question in the title.

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Can you define what racism is? You need to if you wanna have this discussion.

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I'm not the one making the movie.

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So? Does that mean you don’t know what it is unless you make a movie first?

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No it means, in this current context, I'm not under the obligation that you demanding that I answer it implies.

The onus is on the film that's tackling the subject.

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So you don’t know what it is, or you’re too embarrassed to say. Gotcha.

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I've answered the question. So maybe it's your reading/eyesight that's the issue.

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No, you didn’t answer the question, you didn't define "actual racism".

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You being confused by the title is very telling.

I'll give you a clue, see what you can do with it...everyone knows if they are racist or not.

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Lol

So the movie title is asking a question it already knew the answer to?

What's the point of the movie then?

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Hahahahahahahahha!!!!!!! Spot on! Well done!

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Jesus. You realise that's a self own, don't you? That someone who asks or pretends to ask themselves a question they already know what the answer is going to be, is immediately discredited.

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There's plenty of movies that already do that. There arent any movies that expose race grifters like Robin Diangelo except this one. Or would you prefer that race grifters shouldnt be exposed? They do a lot of damage to fighting actual racism for one so you should be happy that this movie exists.

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Does this movie actually concern itself with the damage that activists might be doing to efforts to fight actual racism? Seems like it would need to establish what actual racism is before it could do that.

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The movie points out that anti-racists are the actual racists. Think about it: Any time a preacher or right-winger insists on letting people know they're anti-gay, what happens next? They're caught engaging in gay activities (usually an airport bathroom for some reason). Psychology demonstrates the more someone claims to be 'against' something, the greater the chance they are the opposite. Anti-fascists are a great example of this--they employ violence to silence anyone who disagrees with them. THAT's fascism. Anti-racists are the same. This movie merely let's the anti-racists reveal their racism.

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"The movie points out that anti-racists are the actual racists."

So it is simply looking for confirmation of a popular/populist agenda that is expressed by people who want to stop hearing that racism goes on so that they don't feel bad or responsible.

Got it.

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Oh they acknowledge the actual racism that’s going on, just not the racism you’re thinking of.

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Nope. No need to rephrase what I wrote to fit your pre-packaged corporate narrative. Disingenuous cunts like you are exactly what's wrong with political discourse today.

Go ahead and write something else. I'll grant you the last word as I know dumbasses like you can't help yourself.

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You fucking dweebs. You come up with the most inane, kneekjerk immature philosophies - the "anti-racists" are the real racists being racist to themselves.

Like a fucking toddler having a tantrum. "NO! YOU GO TO BED!""

Have some fucking dignity at least to shut up. Because you don't have the balls.

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Wouldn't you have thought the "populist" agenda is the one where we constantly hear that white people are inherently racist and bad? We don't hear this version of the story very much, if at all, so how is this the "populist" version when the prevailing story is "white people are racist and bad?" I'm not following you on this train of thought. I think you might be wrong.

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No I wouldn't have thought that.

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Please enlighten me as to your notions of what populist is and how it relates to this film.

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The damage what the activists do to fight actual racism should be evident for anyone with a functioning brain. When you have a punch of people claiming that everything is racist then naturally that word will lose its meaning which obviously has an effect on fighting actual racism.

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Yes. It shows lots of stupid, self-loathing white people saying racist things about themselves.

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Lol. The only self loathing is from people who feel the need to make a movie to convince others they aren't racist.

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Except...that's not what this movie is trying to do.

Better luck next time!

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Martoto, I believe I have figured out what your problem is, you haven't seen the film and are making assumptions based on your internalized racism (if you are white) or your racism against whites (if you are not white). The film has been made to show the scam, called CTR, that is being perpetuated in our society, it exposes the race grifters and the trouble makers who stir up racism to earn money from it. These people are not actually trying to put an end to racism, they are actively trying to perpetuate it so that they can continue earning money from it. They are ultimately bad people.

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I haven't seen it, but I believe the film exposes the irrational side of the grievance industry that generates money by pushing absurd racial ideas.

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I haven't watched the movie yet, but I don't see why a person would not think that it does examine and address actual racism. Isn't a huge point of the movie to discuss what is racist, and whether or not a person is truly racist?

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