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So, uh, that dude (Spoilers)


Morris, who was offering to help her by killing her...

...he was all part of the demon just fucking with her? When he went "Let me just go get something from outside" and never came back that was because he was just another part of the whole hallucination?

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It appears so. It seems the entire encounter with Morris, his offer to help, and his disappearance are part of the entity’s way of psychologically tormenting Skye. The jump to the surreal stage scene further supports that she is fully immersed in the entity’s hallucination, detached from reality.

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It appears that, at least Morris' last appearance its a hallucination, that it's not him there, but the entity. But you're saying you believe that, even in his first appearance, "he" was already the entity? That the whole meeting in the bar was an illusion? I'm not so sure about that. What do you think the entity would gain by pretending being Morris? What would it accomplish explaining to Skye about its own story and the way to kill him?

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I wondered that too. So the concensus is that for the second meeting onwards with Morris and Gemma, they are not real?

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No, the demon took complete control of Haley's mind in her apartment when that bunch of people start following her and dancing with her and in the end the entity introduce his arm in her mouth then she remembers the accident she caused were that actor dies, from that point on everything is hallucination, her waking up in the hospital, her killing her mom, running from the police, her friend driving, her reuniting with Morris and entering the abandoned Pizza Hut all that is the demon playing with her mind at the same time using her body as puppet we just din't see that part

Morris is real, her friend probably spent the night in her house, and they made amends, to be honest I don't understand why some people are so impressed with this movie a 7 is unfair this movie is a 5 at most the whole thing feels like lazy writing

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Her first encounter with Morris had to have been real as the demon wouldn't think to create a (plausible) hypothetical on how to kill itself.

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