When will this strike end?
At this point,i think they both should just sign a deal and call it a day. Its pointless and hurtful to many workers to continue the strike.
shareAt this point,i think they both should just sign a deal and call it a day. Its pointless and hurtful to many workers to continue the strike.
shareThe UAW already settled with Ford - GM and Stellantis/Chysler next from what I've heard, so it should be soon.
Is there a strike still going on?
I don't notice it. Movie and tv shows keep coming. Celebrities are all over Internet. Movies are still being shot with their weird "interim agreements". Studios and streamings can go on like this for a long time. Its weird how those rich actors keep expecting that they would surrender and agree to all their childish demands.
Writers strike is over. Actors strike (SAG-AFTRA) is still going on. Celebrities can be all over the internet as long as they're not promoting any struck work. The exception being if they have a waiver which means the production company is implementing the demands of the strike. I don't think any of the major studios are getting waivers bc they don't want to give in to the strike demands. Smaller independent companies can choose to meet the demands. There's a ton of movies not being made and there will be a noticable gap in the future. Major movies like Dune 2, supposed to be out this fall, were moved to 2024 in hopes that the strike will be over so the actors can promote the movie.
shareTheir "interim agreements" is what keeps their strike this long. Popular rich actors get work. They are allowed to go to festivals and premiers. And no one feels like there is still strike going on. Streamings can live up without new material for 10 years. People would watch old material anyway and their new material is usually just bad anyway. And they can buy and add European, Korean, Latin America new shows and movies.
They cant win with streamings. Because then streamings would have to rise their prices to 100 dollars per month to pay they all up for no reason and would go bankrupt because no one will pay that much. They will never cave to those ridiculous demands.
Actors were payed for the job they were hired to do and no one owes them to give free money for eternity.
They are not allowed to go to festivals & premiers unless they have a waiver. The cast of Oppenheimer was at the London premier hours before the strike went into effect and once it did they all left in solidarity. I think Adam Driver was in Europe promoting Ferrari a couple months ago but that production had a waiver because it was a non AMPTP company. Better explained here:
https://deadline.com/2023/08/ferrari-sag-aftra-waiver-adam-driver-penelope-cruz-1235459750/amp/
The strike is not for the big stars like DiCaprio & Driver it's for the working man actor (like 98% of union members). You can argue that actors don't deserve to get paid for eternity but up until streaming got big (recently) the residuals system was the standard for decades. Actors can go months or longer between gigs and the residuals are what helped bridge the gap. Most non famous working actors work side jobs or even main jobs. If you take away residuals entirely it will dissuade people from deciding to become actors as it was cutthroat and difficult already.
You're right about the streaming model not being set up to support actors long term. I don't know what will happen but some have said streaming will have to go back to using ads. And most are. Prime is implementing ads unless you pay an extra $2.99 a month and I think Netflix has an ad version in the works. Do the ads address the actors concerns? I don't know. It's complicated. The industry kind of shot itself in the foot switching to streaming in many ways.
I agree there is so much content from the past that the sky would not fall for most of us if there were no new shows for a long time which gives the AMPTP leverage.
Its their problem that they can't find work for months. No one should pay them free money like its some welfare. You dont see constructor workers or plumers that work 30 days a year and then get payed by the people who hired them before to do something in between. Because they dont have clients every day....
It just show how unserious its is and that its basically their hobby. They should find side job then.
There is too much of those actors because everyone wants to be an actor. Its such a cool job. You dont have to learn acting for years. You just come, get role and then chill whole year while someone pays you free money.
Honestly if I would live in Hollywood then I would probably go and get that SAG card and then go to auditions and try to get cast even in some side role for 5 minutes somewhere and then demand those money.
I would actually love to see system where every actor would pay to SAG additional taxes from every their role and then SAG would use those money to pay up those actors who sit whole year without job. Like if actor gets 100k per episode - let them pay 50k in taxes. If they got 2k - let them pay 1k. Basically 50%. The more money rich actor gets payed - the more he will pay to "actors welfare" . Then see how fast they would revolt and scream: "Why I should pay all those actors without work when I bust my arse non-stop and they just chill and do nothing".
I feel like they're not going to give in anytime soon so long as they fear A.I taking over their job and likeness
shareIdiot posts to wrong board!
shareNever if we’re lucky. Put the whole wokesploitation movement to a stop once and for all.
shareI'm starting to wonder if Fran Drescher is nuts. The more I hear of what she's like now, the more nutty she seems. Should she really be in charge of a union like that?
shareShe is fighting very hard for the rights of actors, how is she nuts?
shareEvery time she comes into a meeting with the studios her people are striking against, she comes in with a little plush heart with a face on it, spouting Buddhist mantras during negotiations.
When George Clooney and a few other actors tried giving money to the strikers, Fran had to take him aside and lecture him on how strikes work, and then she goes on video with this very creepy look on her face, and talks like a zombie, explaining how SAG is federally funded and other nonsense.
She also has the gall to dress up nice and go off to attend a friend's wedding while her fellow SAG strikers can't even afford to pay their bills and are worried about whether they will be on the street and starving soon.
Does that all sound like a well woman to you?