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Oh look.... Anti-trans propaganda... Pass.

posted a year ago by The_Rev (334)
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Listen, I'm by no means 100% supportive of kids transitioning, puberty blockers, etc... But I'm in no position to do anything about it, so Imma let parents and their docs deal with that... But I WILL say this... Study after study has shown that NOT helping your child transition IN SOME WAY (like dressing, identifying as preferred gender, using a preferred name) is seriously detrimental to a child/teen's mental health. I see countless teens come to the ER every week, in serious mental health crisis, many of whom are non-gender-conforming... They're absolutely miserable because society STILL says by and large that "boys should act this way, and girls should act that way"...

Until we instill in these kids that their gender expression is truly theirs to do what they will with, and until their peers just ****ing deal with it w/o resorting to bullying and violence, this situation is only going to get worse.

While I can understand why parents might resort to puberty blockers, hormone therapy, surgery to help their child express what they feel is their true gender... I don't really agree with it anymore. When they turn 18, if that's what they wanna do, they can go right ahead... But for parents to push for full gender transition (ie removing body parts) before the child has reached the age of maturity is asking for trouble.

Honestly though, circling back to the beginning of this post, society needs to just accept that gender identity and expression needs to be something a child is allowed to do. If they identify more as the opposite sex, or somewhere in between, they need society's acceptance that that's okay... Because at the end of the day, trans kids are the ones who have to live with themselves. Their peers can just ignore them if they don't agree with the concept, as well as to have the fear of JAIL TIME instilled in them, should they bully/assault anyone who's gender non-conforming... And in time, as kids grow into their feelings, they'll figure out what's really right for them. And if that's being cis, fine... But if that's being trans... So be it.

Despite the fact that i'm almost entirely cis, with very few "gender non-conforming characteristics," I still believe I have the right to express those traits without fear. Kids of today deserve the same right... And until society stops looking at them like "the other" no progress is going to be made in this domain.

Parents/society just needs to stop being so "You have a penis or vagina, so you must act like this"... That's not helping. And neither do "documentaries" like this one, that really only serve to dissuade parents from supporting their children in this EXTREMELY difficult issue. If I had a trans child, I'd rather support them (shy of hormones and surgery) until they're old enough to decide for themselves whether that's really what they want to do, then to shame them into acting like society thinks they should act, based on what is or is not dangling between their legs. That kind of attitude only drives trans kids straight into coffins...

[–] clashwho (758) a year ago

You make some good points. I've been totally over the gender identity cult for some time, now. People who say gender is a social construct on the one hand, and then say that people need artificial hormones and surgeries to conform to it. Makes no sense. Never will.

But your criticisms of this documentary hold no water, since you haven't seen it.

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

Psh... the trailer alone tells me this is the LGBTQ equivalent of "Plandemic"... A "documentary" (in name only) meant to spread fear, uncertainty, doubt, anger, discrimination, etc... Manipulating your fears and prejudices for their own political gain. Just another ultra-right-wing conspiracy theory meant to trick you into doing their bidding and rid the country of "others." Have fun drinking that cool-aid dude... ;-)

If you don't believe me, read a little about the basics of social psychology. This documentary, I can tell from the trailer alone, employs just about every psychological weapon in the arsenal to manipulate you into believing whatever they want you to believe. Stop being a sheep. Think for yourself, mmkay?

[–] clashwho (758) a year ago

If you wanted to persuade me, your last two sentences have removed all hope of that. I think the sheep are the ones falling for the gender identity cult. Thinking for myself is what led me to the conclusion that the gender identity argument is completely bogus. As far as I'm concerned, you've been drinking the Kool-aid.

[–] Hybrid66 (1516) a year ago

This radical extremist Stalinist indoctrinating campaign is just a warped Trojan horse for pedophilia.

[–] [deleted] a year ago

"Study after study has shown that NOT helping your child transition IN SOME WAY (like dressing, identifying as preferred gender, using a preferred name) is seriously detrimental to a child/teen's mental health."

Ummmmmmmm
really
yea you seem.. totally.. neutral and.. legit.

"I see countless teens come to the ER every week, in serious mental health crisis, many of whom are non-gender-conforming..."
weird that this didnt happen 5, 10, 15 years ago.

etc.. I guess your post continues like that. Not gonna read it cause I dont want to get AIDS.

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

...I can see I'm dealing with people with very little intelligence... Shocking, on the board of a fake documentary... The world really is getting dumber by the second... #rip intelligence....

[–] [deleted] a year ago

Really this is your comeback? Some 5th grade sarcastic tone nasal voice stuff?

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

Sssshhh child... it's past your bedtime. Run along now... ;-)

[–] maximmm (3411) a year ago

Studies after studies....
You do realize that there are by far more studies showing the opposite?
Trans are at a much higher risk of suicide, for example.

I have a suspicion that people would be better of if they were taught how to accept themselves as they are, rather than focus on pushing transformations.

Having said that - I do wonder if humanity is moving towards a crisis of sorts. That crisis might be more of biological rather than psychological nature. The polls showing that lgbtq percentage in our population is doubling every generation is a worrisome sign. We are talking hormones here. If the number of masculine girls and feminine boys per 1000 people is doubling every 20 years, we got a major issue on our hands.

It's like the obesity problem - USA was pretty fit once upon a time - now it's super obese. Everyone thinks that it's because americans have gotten lazy couch potatoes, but I beg to differ. People need to seriously look into the food they are consuming - I mean all food - even the healthy type - what steroids are animals being fed in the states that differs from other countries? What gmo products are on the market that's different from other countries? what type of pesticide being used that's different from other countries? What's in the water that you drink?

Curiously enough, there are studies that certain types of pesticide and chemicals from plastics increase the odds of hormonal imbalance.

[–] cyguration (3951) a year ago

So well said, and agreed.

Within three generations -- at the current rate -- Westerners will die off due to low replacements in the birth-rate. Constantly pushing to get kids on hormone blockers (which is legitimate chemical castration, meaning the kids on those HRTs are now genetic dead-ends), and constantly encouraging kids into the Rainbow Reich ranks, means even lower birth rates, and eventual genetic starvation.

[–] BeaSouth (3566) a year ago

You’re the person who opened with the first comment on it

[–] Rorikon (18391) a year ago

Everything needs balance. 15 week abortion ban and age 15 allowed to choose their gender roles excluding permanent surgery until age 18.

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

The idiots on the right dont believe in "balance." It's all or nothing with them...
The left might be SLIGHTLY better, but they're pretty much just as bad. Everyone wants things their way, no compromise anymore... And this is why the United States', perhaps even civilized society as a whole, is a hopeless case. *shrugs*

[–] BKB (11325) a year ago

You don't choose your Gender.. It's simply Male & Female.. That's it!! This is positively absurd.. You sport a dick & testicles?? You're a Male and that's just the way it is..

[–] raymondoz2007 (2098) a year ago

Lets take to its logical erxtreme..Most seniors are 18..so adult male that says he is now a woman gets to take showers with 14 year old girls? So your ok if your 14 yr old daughter takes a shower with this adult who moghht have a giant erection?

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

You're right, that's PRECISELY why teens are transitioning... So they can get easy access to the opposite sex... It's a HUGE pizzagate conspiracy by Hilary Clinton, George Soros, and the "radical" left to molest children and sacrifice them on an altar to their flying spaghetti monster god... JFC...

I've known a TON of trans kids/adults, and precisely ZERO of them are sex offenders. Sooo... I dunno, maybe yall should take your tinfoil hats off and just live and let live?

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

You know, now that I think about it... The ones who so strongly protest such things are often just looking to take the focus off themselves... Do you have something you want to share with the group? How many minors have YOU lured into your car with candy and violated?? HMM? Don't deny it, we all know it's true...

See? I can turn an illogical argument on its head and make wild assumptions, presumptions, and allegations against a group of people I hate too... How's it feel to be thought of as a monster? ;-)

[–] SweetTooth43 (2182) a year ago

We get it, you're a pedophile, thanks for sharing.

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

bwahahahahahahaha..... You know, the more you sling words like that, the more people know you're just attempting to take the focus off of yourself... :-P

[–] The_Rev (334) a year ago

It really is quite enjoyable to mess with bigots' heads... :-P

[–] raymondoz2007 (2098) a year ago

you have been reported.

[–] liscarkat (19427) a year ago

A TON of trans kids and adults? That's just more proof that this is nothing more than social contagion, mass hysteria. It's a deranged cult that has no scientific basis for continuing.

[–] arcticdragon (593) a year ago

I see countless teens come to the ER every week, in serious mental health crisis, many of whom are non-gender-conforming... They're absolutely miserable because society STILL says by and large that "boys should act this way, and girls should act that way"...

People go to the ER for that? Is that what ERs are for?

Honestly though, circling back to the beginning of this post, society needs to just accept that gender identity and expression needs to be something a child is allowed to do. If they identify more as the opposite sex, or somewhere in between, they need society's acceptance that that's okay... Because at the end of the day, trans kids are the ones who have to live with themselves. Their peers can just ignore them if they don't agree with the concept, as well as to have the fear of JAIL TIME instilled in them, should they bully/assault anyone who's gender non-conforming... And in time, as kids grow into their feelings, they'll figure out what's really right for them. And if that's being cis, fine... But if that's being trans... So be it.

Here's the problem, though. Trans people require CONSTANT validation and affirmation for their personal truths. That trans women are REAL women. And to get those, they vehemently need both participation and agreement from these peers that you said can just ignore them if they don't agree. They go on social media to shower themselves with affirmation and love bombing. They go into bathrooms specifically to be around people who would have just respectfully kept their distance from them. They do the same for women-only sports competitions.

And then there's what they teach other non-trans children in school. That gender and sex are fluid. Everybody should explore their identities. Etc.

[–] arcticdragon (593) a year ago

Parents/society just needs to stop being so "You have a penis or vagina, so you must act like this"... That's not helping. And neither do "documentaries" like this one, that really only serve to dissuade parents from supporting their children in this EXTREMELY difficult issue. If I had a trans child, I'd rather support them (shy of hormones and surgery) until they're old enough to decide for themselves whether that's really what they want to do, then to shame them into acting like society thinks they should act, based on what is or is not dangling between their legs. That kind of attitude only drives trans kids straight into coffins...

Well, society is not telling anybody that "You have a penis or vagina, so you must act like this". Everybody is free to express themselves however they want. But we know that's not the real problem. The problem is that they are living a LIE. And the failure to uphold this lie, is to DIE.

We do not believe that the only way for anybody to keep living is under a belief that's constantly on a lifeline.

[–] liscarkat (19427) a year ago

Transgenderism is a bullshit cult, mass hysteria for deranged people, mental illness.