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waaaaay more satisfying ending


thank you for giving a proper ending. the original's ending is unrealistic. no mother is just gonna lay down and let her child die. that goes against all instinct. it's called "mama bear" for a reason.

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i know that I always teach 13 year girls old to stick ketamine needles into massively bulked intimidating 45 year old men holding guns, sticking it with enough force to penetrate (and of course pressing to inject) right at the exact moment the man is about to fire at mom in dad. there's no telling when you'll be in in high anxiety / high duress situations where this prep info can be handy. you can never be too prepared (it's always best to find the right potent formula that takes only seconds to work, too)

And so if i don't see this kind of stuff happen in a movie, I feel like something is definitely amiss, in the writer's room! 🤥

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Here's just one example of MANY!!!

In 2015, Charlotte Heffelmire, a teenager from Virginia, lifted a truck off her father after it collapsed while he was working beneath it. Her extraordinary act of strength was triggered by an adrenaline surge, which allowed her to free him and even move the truck to prevent a fire from spreading. This incredible story closely aligns with the kind of "superhuman" feats people experience in emergency situations​

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/teen-girl-lifts-truck-off-his-father-saves-family-from-fire/

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dude

No wonder you think this is "realistic" as is. you believe random nonsense stories, old wives tales. That's like stories you see in the supermarket isle at checkout, the ones with aliens getting married to random women and Elvis. Stories like that are not real, bub. They are feel-good human interest, highly exaggerated, there to get your money, your clicks and rot your brain.

It's like people getting cured of cancer through the "power of prayer".. there to make you feel good, not to be taken seriously.

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perhaps, but if it's good enough for the supermarket isle mags than it's good enough for a movie. i mean it's all fiction right? :-)

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yes of course, movie magic 🍿

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She doesn’t ’lay down’, she’s in a headlock and cannot escape despite fighting. She’s too physically weak.

Notice how these ‘mama bears’ are happy to let countless Muslims into their lands to prey upon their children.

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A headlock? LMAO! What are you 8? Last I checked the mandible is the strongest muscle of the body and she could have bit the shit outta that head-locker!!!

So you have a video of a Muslim hurting children in front of their parents or are you just spouting out BS?

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cleary he's talking about all the same crazy news stories that you have read about child she-hulks. He spends a lot of his time parked on his computer gobbling up story after story from anti immigrant european press funneled through a very specific lens to feed him about "muslim invaders".

He thinks that 99% of Muslims are attacking native European children because of the constant flow of reinforcing brain rot.. the same that you have with your fantastical child She-Hulks, but with a political and money agenda behind pushing the, rather than purely entertainment and money.

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What the fuck was that load of straw bullshit? Onto the list you go… https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/66bff21be2b59409e700e862/If-Moviechat-was-Shawshank-prison

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No, the guy had his arm wrapped around her neck, almost strangling her, she couldn’t do shit.

So you have a video of a Muslim hurting children in front of their parents or are you just spouting out BS?

The fuck are you talking about?

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I agree. The original was good, although annoying at times because of their "niceness", up until the end which, IMO, was completely absurd. At least in this version they fought back, although I also found their constant "niceness" annoying too. I was surprised that Ben wasn't killed. I was actually expecting that and while it would have been sad, I could see it happening. I don't think American audiences would accept the couple in this version laying down to die and letting their daughter be mutilated, no matter how "nice" they were!! The original turned into a joke!

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The original movie was about the passive non-confrontational vs abusers. They forgot that in the remake, thereby making the remake a very generic tv movie instead of an emotion roller coaster.

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I didn't think it was generic, but I would take that over absurd any day.

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Don't forget many genocides happened to people who could not deal with what was happening to them because it was so far outside of their comfort zone.
By far most people are like that. Same as that everyone thinks they are good drivers, able to lift a car off a child and capable of handling themselves in a fight.

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Many genocides have happened because the populations were not armed and totally helpless against armies with guns. Even in the Warsaw ghetto, they rose up, took out a lot of Germans, and went down fighting. If they were armed and able to fight back things would probably have been different in any genocide or massacre in history.

I'm not talking about a child being able to lift a car which is an isolated incident, if even true.

It wouldn't have mattered to me if everyone died at the end of the remake. The point is that they would have gone down fighting instead like the absurd, ridiculous events of the original. However, we can agree to disagree, I'm fine with that.

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Research consistently shows that the most common human response to a threat is actually freezing or compliance rather than fighting back (https://news.mit.edu/2021/fight-or-flight-why-individuals-react-differently-0223?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054).
This is often due to a combination of shock, fear, and the brain's instinctual survival mechanisms
(https://www.n-cbt.com/uploads/7/8/1/8/7818585/ncbt_howthebrainrespondstothreatshandout.pdf?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054).

For instance, studies on the brain's response to threats highlight that the initial reaction is often to freeze, which can be a precursor to either fight or flight
(https://www.n-cbt.com/uploads/7/8/1/8/7818585/ncbt_howthebrainrespondstothreatshandout.pdf?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054).
This response is deeply rooted in our evolutionary history and is seen across various species (https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2023.1321053/full?citationMarker=43dcd9a7-70db-4a1f-b0ae-981daa162054)

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Oh please, there are heroes every day who fight for their families if in danger and even fight for strangers who they feel are in danger. Happens all the time! I see situations where people risk their lives for their children and/or their pets being mauled. They don't hesitate. I see situations where strangers see what they think are children being abducted and they react. It happens all the time! I see situations where muggings or other violent crimes are stopped by heroes.

As I said, we can agree to disagree as far as I'm concerned. If you can't that's on you.

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The movie is not realistic.

It's a film about not being a follower.

As I recall from the original, the couple just did what they were told and never questioned what was happened or followed their feeling regarding the situation.

So, it was a fairy tale type of story about people following Nazis, etc when they new it was a crazy idea. We have plenty of that going on today.

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Yes, grim as it is, the original is a more likely scenario.

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I get the criticism of the original ending but this was some bullshit action movie ending. It's satisfying because most people want to see bad people die, which rarely happens irl.

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That's why it has a waaay more "satisfying" ending than the original. I'm not trying to see what happens in real life. I'm watching a movie to be entertained and feel catharsis.

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To me it was satisfying because they fought back. Even if one or more would have died - which would have been disappointing - at least they would have gone down fighting, not just standing there getting pelted with rocks after having allowed their child to be taken away and mutilated. That was ridiculous!

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I feel you’re missing the point of the original film. It wasn’t ridiculous at all, it was IMHO, a brilliantly crafted depiction of power and manipulation. Survival of the fittest.

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I don't agree. Survival of the fittest is fighting back and someone wins and someone loses. The original was ridiculous.

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The last 30 minutes of this remake devolved into yet another Hollywood shoot 'em up, complete with explosions and hanging precariously from ledges. Unbelievably lame. So sad! I loved the first 2/3 of the movie with all of the psychological games but the final 1/3 really shit the bed once everyone just started pointing guns at one another.

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Still much better than the dreary ending of the original. I'd much rather have a catharsis than some dead end depressing ending. Movies are not real life. We get enough drab dreariness in real life and that's why we watch movies so we can be excited. At least that is what I enjoy, don't you? I'm mean do you watch porn where some limp dick does a belly flop? No, you want to watch him give it to her! Same with regular movies. It's a fantasy world where most would like to have their fantasies fulfilled and come out on top.

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I roll my eyes when movies devolve into car chases, gun shootouts and explosions. Not my thing.

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I couldn’t agree more. I loathed the ending of this remake, and was disappointed that they bottled-out of the original ending and adapted a softer Hollywood fluff ball.

The original film, personally, I believe to be one of the most shocking I’ve seen for some time and applauded the creators confidence to produce a truly disturbing, cold blooded end. I was not expecting it. I think the whole film (original) was brilliantly acted, awkward, uncomfortable and shocking, I felt it all. It’s not often a film produces a physical response for me like that.

This remake, ugh, invoked no emotion beyond irritation. I’m a big fan of Macovoy but this was not his best work at all, I thought he was terrible in comparison to his predecessor.

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I think it's good to have both movies depending the mood of the viewer. I am usually in the mood to watch good people rise up and do remarkable things against adversity. Maybe that's just me though b/c the real world already has psychopaths poisoning my food air and water supplies along with practically forcing everyone to inject themselves with dangerous chemical concoctions from corrupt pharmaceutical companies. The real world is shocking enough, that's why we need good movies with the little guy coming out on top.

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