The moment when a new Death Star is abruptly introduced out of left field and you realise the entire plot of TFA is a lie
Return of the Jedi did it worse. Somehow the Empire whipped up a newer and bigger Death Star in just a few years.
But weren't they crippled after A New Hope? Not at all, the ending to A New Hope meant literally nothing and the Empire was not hurt. Will you now criticize the original trilogy for its very obvious flaws? Of course not.
It's funny to see people bashing the sequels for things that were done far sloppier in the original trilogy... Of course, it's basically just people who love to bitch and complain (in a tone-deaf, history-ignoring AKA hipster fashion) about the same things over and over and over and over and over and over every chance they get, like you Arghhhh.
You were good for a conversation here and there, LONG AGO, but now I swear all I see you do is post the same complaints repeatedly here on Last Jedi. I really don't think I see you anywhere else on this site anymore and I don't think I see you posting anything else.
At least you've found your rut.
You're definitely stuck in it. Have fun.
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Arghhhh (804)
7 years ago
It's fascinating how quickly sequel lovers will turn on the OT in a bid to defend the indefensible.
No, RoTJ didn't do it worse and I refuse to believe you actually think that, you're brain is just grasping at straws as you're so desperate to convince yourself TFA is a good film (and I understand, that must take a lot of effort).
It wasn't 'whipped up' was it, it is first seen 6 years after the last one and for all we know the empire was building it before the first one was destroyed. And you know what, even if it was pulled out of their arse like it was in TFA that STILL DOESN'T MAKE IT OK NOW. Christ. If there's something bad in the OT (which there is plenty of btw, few people claim they are flawless) then it doesn't make it ok to do the same fucking thing 30 years later! If anything it makes it less ok to keep making the same mistakes.
The puppets in Jabba's palace were shitty but that doesn't excuse the awful CGI in TFA.
Luke instantly being given an x-wing to fly doesn't excuse Rey instantly being able to do everything with no struggle.
The rebels somehow defeating the entire Imperial fleet doesn't excuse Admiral Quota Filler from taking out 50 star destroyers in one ridiculous manoeuvre.
Do you understand?
And you're right I generally only ever post about Star Wars because I need to vent the supreme frustration of being literally conned by a fucking lazy hack - and for the 2nd time! Of all the great artistic failures I've born witness too I have only ever felt cheated twice, once was with Lost and the other was with TFA and can you spot the link? Though these weren't weren't really failures were they? These weren't projects put together in the hope to entertain that failed dramatically (ala the Prequels) these were a series of lies strung together in the hopes to separate me from my cash and in that regard they worked beautifully!
And so far the motherfucker has gotten away with it, though thankfully the tide seems to be turning.
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Arghhhh (804)
7 years ago
PS - Rey is a Mary Sue.
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AnubisRaydeen (7897)
7 years ago
I actually agree with both of your complaints to an extent. But I liked TFA in spite of its many flaws. One of which was, indeed, that it was far too much like ANH. My appreciation of TFA grew after R1 and especially after the sand trap that is TLJ.
I don't mind Mary Sue characters in general as I crave high octane action and a Mary Sue will catch that branch while falling which is more interesting than a character that wasn't capable and just fell to their death. Stars of the story have to be exceptional or it is a drama and/or boring. However, I do have a problem with the complete lack of effort it has taken for Rey to manifest the Force. I'm fine with her being supremely adept at it but you can practically SEE the script itself bestowing the power on her on screen. This aside, I like Rey. They just botched her training and origin.
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