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Is Admiral Holdo one of your all-time favorites?


I mean...not only is she easy on the eyes but she may be the most heroic character in the entire Star Wars franchise.

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Uhhhhh, what? With her refugee-from-The-Hunger-Games hairdo and her just waiting for what's left of the Rebel Alliance...er...The Resistance, to be destroyed? Okay. At least she does the cool suicide attack.

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The cool suicide attack? You mean the one which makes each and every Star Wars movie pointless. Cause now you could destroy everything by simply going to hyperspeed. Empire builds another Death Star? No problem ..... X-Wing to Hyperspeed and the problem is gone. This was as stupid as possible. But even that obvious fact wasnt realized by dumb Rian.

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Hey, as a fan of hard science-fiction, I applaud Rian Johnson for coming up with something you would think would be obvious, but no one had ever thought of before.

How was it stupid? It's science. Taking a ship, especially of the size of the one Holdo pilots, and ramming another ship at lightspeed, would create enough energy to vaporize a ship like Snoke's.

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Yep, making each and every space battle in Star Wars pointless is supersmart ;) .

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It didn't vaporize Snoke's ship, it damaged it. It vaporized a bunch of the support ships which I am not sure is science in SW universe. The cruiser struck Snoke's ship, but just passed by most of the rest which normally happens when ships exit to hyperspace..so I am not sure I believe the amount of destruction to the rest of the fleet.

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If lightspeed were possible, and you took that ship she was flying into Snoke's at lightspeed, it would be vaporized. It is all about the energy that collision would produce. I saw the movie and saw what happened, which is fine for the movie, since you need the characters aboard Snoke's ship to remain alive.

But, science and physics say otherwise.

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It vaporized a bunch of the support ships which I am not sure is science in SW universe.

It kinda seemed like the other ships got sliced by the huge wall of light-speed debris that was cast out from the impact. That was just the impression I got.

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Certainly possible I suppose, hard to say how much of the ship would have been left after the initial impact. Snopes’ ship should probably been far more damaged than it was or the support ships less devastated. Star Wars is not hard science so who knows for sure.

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I think most of the debris would be from Snoke's ship

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You mean the one which makes each and every Star Wars movie pointless.

So why aren't they blowing up the shield generators and then flying A-Wings into the bridges of Star Destroyers? It took down the Super Star Destroyer Executor pretty easily in Return of the Jedi, and completely by accident as well.

Also, your point about X-Wing vs. Death Star is silly. That's like saying "well this cannonball can puncture the side of a ship and sink it, so that means a bullet can collapse a castle." No accounting for mass whatsoever.

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You niether have a clue what a cannonball does to a ship nor do you have the smallest idea that at ROTJ it only happened cause the shields were down. Something that usually not happening during a spacefight. And the Star Destroyed in TLJ was destroyed with shields up.

So this is just a gloryhunter trying to waste all our time.

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What's heroic about watching half of your fleet being decimated while your crew mutinies?

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You've got to be trolling right?

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Or one of the best rebel killing characters? Was there any reason not to tell the plan to Poe? She didn't even tell him even after he rebelled. All she told him was that they were going to fly straight and then probably die. Causing him to make his own plan which then revealed the escape pod plan. Did all the rebels who escaped in the escape pods also did not know what was going on? Ah fck it tbh whole movie did not make any sense.

Could the first order not simply move other ships in front of the rebel ships instead of chasing them? Only one of the first order ships was tracking them, so.. the other ships could not possibly blink in front of them? Or send tie fighters? Their own bombers?

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She was pissed off at Poe's insubordinate attitude and chose to indulge her own anger ("get off my bridge") instead of clueing him in on the plan.

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right.. so she basicly tells him her plan is just to die because like a 16 year old she is pissed off at his attitude. Why would the second highest in command have any maturity and set aside her own ego.
And she expects him to just accept that and not try to do anything to save them.
The same guy who in the opening scene shows that he is willing to ignore orders and follow his own plan.
No way for Holdo to think for 2 seconds and predict he is not going to just agree dying is the best plan.
I guess thats an explanation. Awesome character. great script

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