Can someone progressive please explain something to me:

I see and that makes sense but the thing is Naomi Scott was attacked for not being Arab yet Jasmine being played by an Arab actress wasn't integral to the story, heck Agrabah isn't even a real place. It just seems like a double standard yet there may be something that I'm just not getting here.

So you've clearly never seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Bond's ancestry is a fundamental part of the plot of that film. So yeah, his race and heritage are actually pretty important. How would an Idris Elba Bond or a woman for that matter be able to explain their connection to Bond's family crest and motto? Oh, let me guess, you don't even know what his family motto is, but you're here sharing your uninformed opinion anyway.

Understandable and of course supply and demand is important but I just don't understand why it's controversial for Naomi Scott to play an Arab character yet it's progressive for a Black man to play Bond. It seems this is about racism which I simply don't see.

It's because they have no clue how to create their own characters, so they appropiate the popular ones. It's sad, pathetic, and it will fail hard.

@ ebhaynz. That´s some cool anecdotal evidence and amazing sample size to base your opinion on.

I don't buy that at all, there is absolutely nothing to stop Hollywood from creating strong, black characters. If the script is well written and the story is directed well there is nothing to stop those films from being successful. If Hollywood wants to make a film about a black, British super spy, go for it, if it has a solid script and is made by people who give a sh!t I'm sure it will be quite successful. But seriously don't water down James Bond with SJW propaganda.

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Remember they're just catering to the audience. The audiences nowadays are not white men, they are white women, black men and woman, Asian, and hispanic. White men are the primary audience on the Internet, especially with pirating.

Thank you and he never even demonstrated that black actors don’t have any opportunities in Hollywood despite the fact that Hollywood is dominated by liberals. I said it before and I’ll say it again : I had no problem with eve moneypenny because her adaptation of the character was respectful to what came before her and to the source material. It’s the double standard I can’t stand and this whole “well white people have it so easy so it’s ok to discriminate” nonsense

Don't even bother trying to have a discussion about the double standards in movies/TV shows to the SJW crowd. They are so far up there liberal arse they can't even see there own bullshit.

You know , ive never actually seen one of those people , just lots of angry white men shouting that :
a) I'll say what i want and i dont care if it offfends you "snowflakes"
b) women and coloureds are taking over

Nailed it.

Hahaha! I love this post. Seriously, it's spot on!

I agree with it completely, and I love how you put all of their comebacks in there as well, because those are all the "go to" comebacks for all of them. Anybody who is getting sick of the constant identity politics, to them, truly is a "racist right wing nazi incel who is afraid of women." It makes me laugh every time I read a quote or something similar from a "woke" individual on social media.

It's amazing what identity politics has become, and what it has done to people. Logic has gone right out the window. In order to "supposedly" eliminate racism, which is what the Democratic Party "supposedly" values (as should every decent human being) they choose to make EVERY SINGLE PARTICLE of their day revolve around race/gender. How does that make sense? By definition, they are BEING RACIST, but as been mentioned several times, it's ok to be sexist and racist depending on which race or gender is the recipient of the racism. I'm beside myself trying to figure out the logic.

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad and fucking annoying listening to the constant babbling about the race and gender of everyone whenever a movie is released in 2019. I LOVE movies, I always have, but this constant bickering (not the castings of different races in films, that is what it is, and as long as it isn't pandering and lecturing I have no problem with it) about race and gender has turned me off to a lot of movie discussions, and I can't even think of watching an awards show anymore (I used to LOVE the Oscars and Golden Globes). It's really an "over the top", "jump the shark" time we're living in.

There is no way back from this either...that's the frightening thing. Every discussion until the end of time from the ultra-liberal section of the world will be about race and gender from now on, which is unbelievably hypocritical. Logic and reason have gone so far out the window for them that it's floating in space somewhere.

The issue is that it’s apparently ok to switch races one way but not the other which is a double standard and hypocritical , and if you have to deviate far from the source material you’d might as well just make an original character

most major literary characters, etc. were all originally white. So if you want to go by the rule of "keep all characters their original race" the almost every single famous fictional character will have to be white. Leaving scraps for minorities to play them

So of course you're going to say "well, make important minority characters and you can have those"

Yeah, no shit. That's obvious. Except, again, you claim that you are not racist and that you have no problem with minorities playing important characters. But you know damn well that it takes decades for fictional characters to reach the level of icon status. We've had James Bond for decades. Superman for decades. All the Disney princesses, etc.

Most new minority characters will take DECADES of excellent writing before they reach that kind of status. So you're basically telling minorities to wait another 30-40 years before they start taking major starring roles in the biggest franchises. So if there is no racism anymore, it's kind of funny that you expect them to wait basically until all of us are of old age or dead. That is why Hollywood doesn't pay any attention to this argument. Anyone except out of pretentious angry white internet wannabe intellectuals can see the flaws in these arguments. They can see them for the transparent attempt to keep the industry white for the foreseeable future

The "just wait" argument has always been a classic argument for crypto-racists trying to portray themselves as moderates

Back in the days of segregation it was the same thing. "You are disrupting the economy and inciting unrest among the masses with your protests. Just wait, eventually your education institutions will reach the level of quality as white institutions. Just be patient. Just wait, don't boycott our public transportation, eventually people will accept that blacks can sit anywhere they want, but in the mean time you are hurting the local economy"

There are many more examples, but I'm not gonna keep going on and on. I think you get the point. Every argument posed on the internet by these outraged white men has been posed by angry white men of all the past generations. They may think they're being original and bringing up clever points because they've watched lots of youtube videos, but nobody who isn't constantly surrounding themselves in internet echo chambers is impressed or moved by their arguments

Really only one thing would change it. These movies that change roles would have all have to bomb so horrifically that Hollywood would have to abandon its moral principles for the sake of making money. And they would, I guarantee you. Hollywood is ultimately just as greedy as any other industry. But I don't think the movies will bomb that hard, because even most white people don't really care. It's just a small subset of white men on the internet

Take a look at Mission Impossible, another film series about spies that isn't James Bond that is doing very well right now. If the goal is to create a spy series where the main character is black it really shouldn't be that hard to make a film that can stand on its own rather than having to connect itself to the James Bond series.

And where did I say that black actors can't access the James Bond series? I didn't, in fact some of Bond's best allies have been black such as Quarrell, Harold Strutter, Sharkey, etc. I also didn't care that they made Felix Leiter black, Jeffrey Wright did a good job.

Your point is stupid and also I never said "why can't black people just create their own spy series". First of all I never said the Bond series was just for White people, secondly Bond has had several allies who were in fact black and many of them were awesome, heck Naomi Harris and Halle Berry were two of my favorite Bond girls, but of course the progressive response to that is probably "you're only saying that so you can try to hide your closet racism", well the day you can read my mind get back to me.

I also never said it makes me uncomfortable, it's just a stupid idea to have a black woman replace James Bond because then the series would cease to be the James Bond series which is NOT a codename, we would then be focusing on Nomi or whoever so if that's what they plan on doing they should just make a different franchise and there is absolutely no reason it can't be successful. But make no mistake, the James Bond franchise owes you nothing, the fact that it's successful doesn't mean it now has to operate on a quota system.