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Ungrateful wench (spoilers)

posted 4 years ago by cyguration (3951)
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You know if somebody spent seven years trying to find you, eventually manages to do so, and you infrequently spend two weeks talking with them on and off, it might be wise to tell them you found somebody else instead of leading them on.

I figured the movie had that twist because we're in a Liberal-run society where a straight white male can't actually hook up with a heterosexual girl as a reward for his efforts, there's always some kind of subversion afoot.

In this case, we're rooting for this guy to travel just over a week to get some chick he was love-stricken over for seven years, and she didn't even have the heart to tell him she found (and lost) someone else.

Worse yet is that before they separated she told him to find her and she didn't even bother to try to find him. This guy may have been a useless, bumbling fool for the most part but that part of the movie actually had me rooting for the giant crab at the end to eat her for good measure.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8707) 4 years ago

I agree. It definitely seems weird that they were presumably communicating with each other regularly over the seven years and she just didn't happen to mention that she had fallen in love with some other guy and apparently had a serious relationship with him.

That could've worked if he had had no way to contact her all this time, but since they were talking, I mean, WTF?

[–] Kowalski (75525) 3 years ago

HE ONLY FOUND HER ON THE RADIO A FEW WEEKS BEFORE HE LEFT TO GO TO HER.

[–] TylerAArse (2871) 4 years ago

All of your "straight white male" bullshit with a "heterosexual girl" is some overthinking crap. She probably didn't want to break his heart, figured he may have mentally moved on, and didn't think he was gonna up and travel 85 miles to find her. What HIS dumb ass should've done was tell her he was coming. And plus, there was no secret she didn't love him anyone. Did you pay attention to her tone in the transmission? it was extremely clear then. It was easy to see it was a fool's errand from the start.

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

All of your "straight white male" bullshit with a "heterosexual girl" is some overthinking crap.

If that kind of post-modernist bullcrap wasn't plastered all over fake-news Leftist media, you would have a point.

there was no secret she didn't love him anyone. Did you pay attention to her tone in the transmission? it was extremely clear then. It was easy to see it was a fool's errand from the start.

I mean, she was the one who told him to FIND HER. I wouldn't consider that a fool's errand when this person spent seven years doing what she suggested for him to do, lol!

[–] Aidan (18) 4 years ago

"figured the movie had that twist because we're in a Liberal-run society where a straight white male can't actually hook up with a heterosexual girl as a reward for his efforts, there's always some kind of subversion afoot."

"If that kind of post-modernist bullcrap wasn't plastered all over fake-news Leftist media, you would have a point."

You need a job, a hobby, or a life. Or all three. But that straight white male victim hood thing you have going is cute though lol

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

You need a job, a hobby, or a life. Or all three.

I have all three, yet all of them have been blanketed in Left-wing politics, even in the most unlikely of fields.

The problem is that people like you keep justifying all of this propaganda and it makes hobbies for people like me worse off because when I go to watch a movie I now have to see degenerate Left-wing politics in the films, games, comics, and literature I consume.

I wouldn't comment about it if you and your ilk kept your spaghetti on your plate and kept your (socio)politics in your lane.

[–] asom (6824) 4 years ago

The movie is NOT about him getting the girl but about him growing as a person as a result of the hardships he went trough (including not getting the girl). getting over his old relation is a milestone in his growth ...

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

Growing as a person happens in a far more sensible way when the person you risk your life for is upfront and honest with you.

I'm pretty sure if some old flame contacted me out of the blue, some seven odd years later, I'm definitely going to wonder what's up. And usually -- for most normal people -- if an old flame contacts you seven years later, it's oftentimes because they want to hook up again.

[–] asom (6824) 4 years ago

Look at the circumstances:

He is the only one in his group without a couple, she is single in another group. It's not the same as an ex contacting you after 7 years ...

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

You're right...

It's two people who never formally broke up, meeting again after seven years. And sporadically having an on-and-off again conversation over the course of two weeks.

This guy was obviously love-struck, and held on to that for seven years after she told him to "Find me!".

The assumption would be that if this guy is still searching, and manages to find you after seven years, after you told him to find you, that he's assuming there's something still there.

[–] asom (6824) 4 years ago

Yup, he is assuming.

Probably she cannot even imagine being with him again given the circumstances and it's just a friendly voice on the radio.

[–] Burk48917 (11356) a year ago

Then why ask him to find her. considering how dangerous that effort would be?

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

She asked him to find her 7 years ago ...

And sometime you keep a charade up to not hurt the other one, specially when you know it's impossible to meet again.

[–] Burk48917 (11356) a year ago

Except it wasn't impossible, because he made it. He clearly let her know he was still in love with her. He told her he wished they could go back in time to be together.

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

Her expectations was that is was impossible. And he would NEVER make it without the help of the outsider - a variable she couldn't account for.

Are you going to tell me that bringing the dead back to life is not impossible because Jesus did it???

Should I use "extremely improbable" to satisfy your feelings?

"He clearly let her know he was still in love with her." did she follow back saying the same? Nope.

As I said sometime people don't want to hurt others.

[–] Burk48917 (11356) a year ago

Your logic doesn't add up, sorry. People traversed this world a lot. Even if she didn't think he could make it to her, how selfish of her to leave him with hope. He could have died in his effort BECAUSE she wasn't honest with him. On top of that, it keeps him from moving on past her. Sorry, but she was a shithead. Also, Jesus didn't rise from the dead, because that is impossible.

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

"how selfish of her to leave him with hope."

How is it selfish?? What benefit brings to her his love? None.

He was a single guy in a location with no other girl, hope was all he had.

[–] Burk48917 (11356) a year ago

I've already explained why it was selfish, in the exact post where I used the word. His base didn't contain the last people in the world. Obviously they came together at some point. There is no logic in thinking he might not find another girl.

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

no, you did not. Selfish acts should benefit her. She gets no benefit from his love. NONE.

"His base didn't contain the last people in the world. Obviously they came together at some point. There is no logic in thinking he might not find another girl."

No, they got stranded there together when the shit started. OBVIOSLY there was NO ONE coming to their place in 7 years.

Ok, I'm done here, YOU have no logic. Have a nice day.

[–] Burk48917 (11356) a year ago

You sound retarded.🤣

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

You don't know how I sound.

But your write only stupid and ilogic shit. You're the perfect example for the failed education system.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7146) 4 years ago

It made a lot more sense to assume that they weren't together anymore, since he didn't actually go and look for her during those 7 years and never expressed that he was going to - even though they kept in contact during that time. The fact that there was no urgency in his search for her, that they talked pretty casually for a couple that's supposed to be in love, and that he went looking for her on a whim really tells you where they were relationship-wise.

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

Maybe... but this wasn't like some random long-distance relationship separated by menial inconveniences such as gas prices or a few thousand feet between destinations.

If you hadn't noticed, there were giant extra-dimensional monsters roaming about killing people left and right without a care. As the others in the vault noted, it was suicide to go outside.

So it wasn't like he didn't have an urgency to go out looking for her, it was just that when he had an existential epiphany following the last attack in the vault/sewer, he decided to at least risk his life for her else he wouldn't have a life to live anyway.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7146) 4 years ago

Regardless of the monsters, there was never any kind of passion or urgency in the way they spoke to each other - even though any day could be their last. They talked like friends talk to each other.

And he didn't go looking for her immediately because there wasn't a strong reason to. The seven years just let him build up this idea of what their relationship was because he was lonely and because she was his last tie to a better, easier time in his life, not because they were deeply in love. Otherwise, he would've looked for her sooner regardless of the danger, because he was pretty much as unskilled when he started the journey 7 years later than when they first went into hiding, so the risk was equally great.

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

The seven years just let him build up this idea of what their relationship was because he was lonely and because she was his last tie to a better, easier time in his life, not because they were deeply in love. Otherwise, he would've looked for her sooner regardless of the danger

Whether you're in love or not doesn't mean you should be throwing your life away willy nilly, especially in their situation where they were basically living in a Monster Hunter scenario, which required skill, tactics, and a strong sense of survival.

And he wasn't completely unskilled from the start of his journey, he did learn about various monsters and some of what to avoid and how to scavenge. He just wasn't very skilled, which is different from being unskilled.

Besides, being deeply in love doesn't mean someone should act reckless.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7146) 4 years ago

He was throwing his life away willy nilly though. The movie made a point of showing how he couldn't survive alone. If not for the dog and the people he met along the way, he wouldn't have survived.

[–] Pete314 (3003) 4 years ago

He was throwing his life away willy nilly though.

I know it is unfamiliar in today's totally pampered world, but it is just called taking a risk...

[–] mr159 (136) 3 years ago

Putting his life in danger for the unlikely event of getting with a girl who liked him 7 years ago when they were both children is the definition of simping.The guy literally admitted that he should have told her he's coming.

The girl also did nothing wrong. She wasn't in a relationship that she should have told him about. And she wasn't going to unload some heavy duty stuff about a dead boyfriend to this guy (now that would have been leading on).

They both should have just stayed where they are and done the radio version of sexting.

[–] cyguration (3951) 3 years ago

The girl also did nothing wrong. She wasn't in a relationship that she should have told him about. And she wasn't going to unload some heavy duty stuff about a dead boyfriend to this guy (now that would have been leading on).

Actually, over the radio, she could have told him she was taken/occupied/hitched/etc., because the last thing she told him in person was to "find me", so I mean... what did she expect when he finally did find her on the CB... seven years later?

But you're absolutely right that he was a simp.

[–] mr159 (136) 3 years ago

When she said 'find me', she probably thought the situation at hand was temporary. How many of us thought the same when the pandemic started almost 2 years ago.

It is natural for both of them to move on over 7 years. The only reason the guy didn't was because he couldn't get with anyone else in 7 years. So he pinned all his hopes on the one girl who had ever shown any interest in him. He would be the creepy villain if this was a different genre of post-apocalyptic movies.

[–] Angerfist (142) a year ago

Watched it last nite. Not bad.