San Junipero was the least "Black Mirror" episode yet

I don't know if you watched the same episode I did? It was about eternal life, it was amazing. You can choose a time period and live there forever! This episode was so good, and I didn't realise what was going on for a while.

When she asked "how many of them are dead?" That's so spooky! Think about it, really imagine living there after you've died. And imagine what life would be like when you have eternity to live, what would your values be like? Our life is short, so we act a certain way as we know that people won't be here forever. But in that world, things would be different.



You think that's air you're breathing now?

I can understand how some fans of the series might not like it, it is tonally different. But thematically I found it to be very Black Mirror - the concept is arguably the most popular in futurism right now, and it always kept the characters central over the science. There is some darkness in there, too. For the first half you're pretty sure Kelly's some kind of succubus. In general, they do a good job of keeping you paranoid about both character's true intentions and selves. When the concept/twist is revealed, it's one most religious folk find horrifying, as Kelly's husband did. The possibility of slowly losing your mind in the Quagmire, and other flaws like cigarettes with no taste, were also introduced. Although it is a personal fantasy of mine, heaven on earth. With consistent patches, of course!

I've frankly been waiting for any medium to tackle this subject in a way that isn't totally horrifying and dystopian, most of my life now. So I can say with some confidence, this is not only my favorite Black Mirror episode, this is possibly my favorite piece of science fiction in existence. Maybe try watching it back and not comparing it to the rest of the series? Not sure what to suggest, but I truly wish I could help because the episode was transcendent perfection for me.

Playtest, despite being the most classically horror, struck me as least Black Mirror of this crop. Felt more like Outer Limits with too much Shyamalan at the end, no real theme outside of the old, relatively shallow "curiosity killed the cat" trope. I don't really care if it fits with the rest, I've never seen anything like San Junipero put to film.

Listen, most of the people don't understand that there's a reason a self-described cynical show gave a happy ending for a bisexual black woman and a lesbian. It's just as "edgy" as it's supposed to be, the irony is that only on the most cynical show on air (so to speak) is the only place WlW get a happy ending. In every other medium, bi women are sluts with no impulse control who lead straight men or lesbians on only to cheat and lesbians/gay people in general are killed or given an ending where they're all alone just to make the straight people watching cry for an hour and thank their lucky stars they don't have to deal with that reality of systematic oppression and slander. The reason this is the single episode with a happy ending is purposeful and arguably more meaningful because of it. Think of the walking dead, killing a gay woman (even though they gave her the death that was SUPPOSED to happen to a straight white man, if they were following the comics) and leaving her lover spurned and alone. Or think of the 100 when they were heralded for creating not even explicitly bi characters and having them as a couple, only to kill one of them off. Leaving her lover spurned and alone, left with the heavily suggested other choice of lover, a man. The only *happy* representation I can think of for non-straight people is 2d bit characters, usually 2 white men (occasionally 2 white women or the rare police chief on Brooklyn nine nine) who are the "neighborhood gays" who are used as a prop for the other characters to realize "wow, gay people... are people!" Usually while throwing in a homophobic joke or two. Even in literature, there's usually only angsty/tragic or pornographic displays of gay people and when there are happy endings they're stuffed away in "LGBT/NSFW" sections of the internet and libraries.
So there's a definitively clever reason for a happy ending here. As if to say; there's a huge problem if THIS SHOW can create a utopia for gay people successfully and literally no other mainstream media can. So black mirror represents the dark reflection of society (I mean, it's called black mirror)? With this episode it's telling us WE'RE the black mirror reflecting the purity of gay love. And if you can't understand that, feel free to go back to getting off to Quentin Tarantino movies while talking about how "edgy" and "intellectual" you are.

It was cheesy and feel-good, totally the worst of the season and had pretty much 0 to do with what Black Mirror has been about since day one.
In other words: I agree.

Quality of the episode aside, I can't believe how some people on this board actually wrote "I didn't like this episode because it wasn't edgy" or "there was no lesson" because the "lesson" wasn't spoonfed to them.

But I loved that we got a change of pace, even the twilight zone had its xmas episode.

That episode lost all credibility by depicting mainstream '80s culture as heaven, FFS.

Propaganda and nostalgia rolled up tightly for the viewers to stick up their behinds. Puke.

This show should stick to the future, seemingly that's the only space where they can remain critical.