There wasn't anything dark or disturbing about it. It was just some cheesy romance with a happy ending. It felt like a completely different show. As far as I could tell, there wasn't even a lesson to it. Just a way the future could be better.
shareYeah I agree that episode I noticed got a lot of acclaim off critics and fans. I personally found it very schmaltzy, half baked and actually quite boring apart from the attention to details on the different eras It struggled to hold my attention I kept zoning in and out whilst watching it.
shareI was thinking something similarly..It may be my least favorite of them all. Nothing edgy about it ..
One thing that did occur to me, though, was that type of virtual reality could really be beneficial to quadriplegics and anyone handicapped in one way or other. Otherwise not particularly provocative.
But I can't see believing more in a human virtual forever after death as much or more than other possibilities. If a fake life after death could exist than why can't there be a real one?
I was thinking something similarly..It may be my least favorite of them all. Nothing edgy about it ..That's exactly my point. It was a GOOD aspect of technology. That's the very opposite of Black Mirror.
One thing that did occur to me, though, was that type of virtual reality could really be beneficial to quadriplegics and anyone handicapped in one way or other. Otherwise not particularly provocative.
But I can't see believing more in a human virtual forever after death as much or more than other possibilities. If a fake life after death could exist than why can't there be a real one?It made me think of Inception lol. And just to top it off, it was mentioned that you could cut it off at any point. That it wasn't a prison. share
The reviews of the episode said that it wouldn't feel like a Black Mirror episode (since it was taking place in the past rather than the future), but there would be some HUGE twist. I didn't think the twist was that great...I predicted either time travel or that it was a simulation of some kind. It was the latter, although I didn't foresee the "afterlife" aspect of it.
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The reviews of the episode said that it wouldn't feel like a Black Mirror episode (since it was taking place in the past rather than the future), but there would be some HUGE twist. I didn't think the twist was that great...I predicted either time travel or that it was a simulation of some kind. It was the latter, although I didn't foresee the "afterlife" aspect of it.I figured it was either time travel or a simulation pretty early in as well, although I didn't think about them being older.
Yeah i feel like I would have enjoyed it more if I had been in the mood for a sweet uplifting romance. That's not what I watch Black Mirror for though. I want to be scared or disturbed or disgusted. I kept waiting for an upsetting twist ending but it never came. I wondered if that shot of the big computers at the end was supposed to be disturbing but I was just like, oh all those lights represent happy people in their own versions of heaven. How nice.
shareI agree, not a huge twist especially because foreshadowing is an ingredient in each episode and a fan of BM know that. Random reviewers not. In San Junipero when Yorkie is at the mirror triyng to dress up, the song in background is The Smiths "girlfriend in a coma"... that was a huge clue to understand the twist.
shareThe episode was given away by the "this place if filled with dead people" line.
Some people are glossing over some of the troubling aspects the episode, chiefly, what does "life" turn into without consequence, threat, or limitation?
Life! Don't talk to me about life.
Some people are glossing over some of the troubling aspects the episode, chiefly, what does "life" turn into without consequence, threat, or limitation?Eh, that was thought provoking at most. No negative aspects of it were shown anyway. There was the "they say you go lose interest in the real world if you use it too much", but that was negated with the black woman's comment (sorry, I'm terrible with names) about how everyone in a nursing home is like that anyway.
Life! Don't talk to me about life.You brought it up.
Thought-provoking is considered to be a pretty high mark. You need to calm down.
There absolutely were negatives, and big ones at that. People are simply choosing to focus on the positives.
Life! Don't talk to me about life.
Thought-provoking is considered to be a pretty high mark. You need to calm down.I'm perfectly calm, but I've come to expect far more from Black Mirror than a "eh, I guess that could be bad" plot point. I'm guessing you were a pretty big fan of it though.
There absolutely were negatives, and big ones at that. People are simply choosing to focus on the positives.
The dark side of it is The Quagmire, where apathetic folks who've already done everything go and do anything with the hopes of feeling something.
The episode is dreamy and ends on a happy note, but there's no promise of the characters living happily ever after. Nothing lasts forever and it's only a matter of time before there's trouble in paradise. Having said that, I'm glad they went the route they did. The show doesn't have to be all doom and gloom nihilism. Yea, we're fooked. We're all gonna get our dreams crushed and die at some point. Might as well embrace the ish out of the good times when and while we still can.
The thing I would like to know is what process they are using to keep the brain from turning to liquid when there is no life support and no nutrients.
shareThe dark side of it is The Quagmire, where apathetic folks who've already done everything go and do anything with the hopes of feeling something.Hmm. I didn't really get that sense. It seemed just like a *beep* club. But maybe. You shouldn't have to dig deep to find a lesson. though.
The thing I would like to know is what process they are using to keep the brain from turning to liquid when there is no life support and no nutrients.Their consciousness was uploaded to the cloud, similar to the cookie in White Christmas. share
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Hmm. I didn't really get that sense. It seemed just like a *beep* club. But maybe. You shouldn't have to dig deep to find a lesson. though.
Yeah, I felt there was barely any story there what-so-ever, seemed more about pushing the current population control agenda, then making us feel nostalgic for the past by giving us ample supply of member berrie-amplified music.
Not only that, this type of technology was fleshed out much better in Caprica (2009). Normally Black Mirror leaves you with a temporary mental scar, not this time, and that is the problem, its not a black rainbow, its supposed to be a mirror.
"This is What You Want... This is What You Get"
It can be argued the consciouses of the 2 women are only 'copies'. They're both dead. The two girls you see drive off are just copies, stuck forever in a virtual world. What happens if the systems are damaged or malfunctions? They'll be gone forever too. Is living the same day for eternity in a closed community true happiness? These girls barely know each other and they expect to exist together forever? It's implied you can't leave San Junipero. There's no long term planning or ambition. Nothing to look forward to and no-one new to meet.
shareI forget which girl said it but San Junipero isn't a prison. They can leave anytime they want to. And I think new people can be sent there too right? So it's not like an eternity of the same faces. Oh god that would get boring fast though.
shareI'd start modding (hacking/tweaking/testing/improving) the heck outta that place. Get some sharks in there with frickin lasers on their heads or something else cool like that.
You could pull some real Groundhog Day high-jinks as well, seeing as you cannot die for real. And, perhaps you could "forget" things so it always seems fresh.
"This is What You Want... This is What You Get"