Seems like it's pretty unfairly getting picked apart. I know it's not perfect, but I can't help but love how genuine it felt. There were no forced conflicts between crew mates, no love triangles, no overly exaggerated personalities, just seemingly real people trying to fix a problem on a planet they know nothing about. Personally I loved the speed of the film, or lack thereof. I guess I don't understand the need to point to minor inconsistencies as if they somehow diminish what was otherwise a refreshing take on the Michael Bay-esque plots we've all gotten so used to. This is everything I wanted the horrid Apollo 18 to be.
I was spellbound by this movie. I think it is a true science fiction movie for those who know and love the genre and those who've read Asimov, Le Guin, Wyndham and Orson Scott Card. The crux of the whole movie is the sacrifice men and women make in pursuit of greater knowledge. Stunning to behold. Know I couldn't do it. Really well done film.
I just finished watching this movie on netflix and I must say it was fantastic! One of the best movies i have saw in a while gave it 9 stars.
But i must say the most frightening part was when Katya feel throught the ice and sank into dark europa depths!!! That terrified the bejesus out of me!
No, it was great--minimum of three out of five stars for lovers of intelligent sci-fi. I enjoyed it from 4 to 5 stars. You really have to understand that the world is not predominantly filled with geniuses, or we'd have multiple Einsteins running around and the world would be a much better place rather than filled with murderers, psychotics and run of the mill average Joes. EVERYONE knows this: We're not predominantly smart, arguably good; humans are predominantly average at best, typically less intelligent and often quite base. That's why the few, the proud shine so brightly.
You cannot judge the response to this movie based on the typical mundane reactions to "sci-fi" such as Transformers that appeals to the majority base. You have to appreciate this movie like a more informed, thoughtful, and higher-minded and refined person might appreciate a fine wine over soda, classical music over top 40 pop, or the subtleties of human nature over the revelations of a Jerry Springer episode. The people who hate this film don't merely suffer from differing personal preferences; they lack the ability to appreciate things beyond soda, top 40 pop, and Jerry Springer.
Sure, the pleasures of being base can be so much fun for escapist reasons; but what's lost to those who are blissfully ignorant to higher-quality fare is the deeper, more profound and long-lasting satisfaction that comes from enjoying movies such as Europa Report. People who scream that the movie is "boring" are akin to sufferers of mental retardation: They're not intending to be wrong or caustic; they sincerely felt bored by their base minds lacking the ability to be engaged by something more natural, paced and realistic as life itself. Theirs is a constant pursuit to escape from the harsh base realities of their lives, while lovers of the movie swim in the warm seas of existence--and transformative, potential existences--in our universe. The acting was unforced, the characters connected emotionally, and the heroism was demonstrated naturally with thoughtful consideration. I really enjoyed this movie.
The problem with naysayers is that they aren't intelligent enough to determine in advance that such movies were not at all intended for them. It's a movie intentionally made to counter the empty action, machismo, and thoughtless interactions of typical sci-fi movies, however fun they may be. So if they were as attuned to avoiding such movies as they do classical music or sparse servings in a fancy restaurant, they would never comment on them--and leave the reviews and scores to people in the target audience like us who appreciate such movies. The problem with the base is that they are too base to not view and comment on these movies.
The director--foreign-born (of course!)--created a mesmerizing non-Hollywood sci-fi version that I thoroughly enjoyed. The base story of exploring a new planet in search for life is what attracts the base to these movies. But it is not the baseness of the underlying story that makes it original; it's in its presentation. The director did an excellent job of connecting us to these characters in the smallest of moments, some mundane and trivial such as in real life; so I cared about them and any sacrifices they might make. Like District 9, aliens on Earth is a base concept; but the presentation of that story by the director is what made it so original.
I don't mind basers having their own opinions and preferences about taste; what I do mind is when they enter the realm of intelligent movies not designed for them and decide to comment as if they were sequels to Transformers made for them. If they stayed away from our movies and allowed us to comment accordingly, a truer reflection of the response and ratings would be experienced on IMDB. I found the movie, in some ways, ultimately as awe-inspiring and suspenseful--and similarly paced--as a Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The basers undoubtedly hated Moon too :)
Well said really. Preferences cannot be judged in these things. I watch transformers and I enjoy it but it's such shallow a movie just to enjoy for a few hours. The films like Europa Report or 2001: A Space Odyssey (no matter how much I was bored watching it) are important to make you think on the things you take for granted.
Agreed, and thanks. I enjoyed watching Transformers too--always disappointed that they weren't "dark" enough, but perfectly okay as mindless entertainment whenever I'm in the perfect mood to not think and just enjoy such movies for exactly what they were designed to be: escapist fun. You make an excellent point too about 2001: A Space Odyssey; I was equally bored for much of the movie but appreciated the technical excellence and higher-brow vision of the director. While not a single scene from Transformers resonates with me in any lasting memory, most everyone has an instant imprint of the iconic scenes with the black monolith, the early humans and apes using bones as tools and weapons, etc. The movie's climactic finale had a much more thought-provoking and memorable transformation, pun intended, than in any of the Autobots. The distinction you make about boredom is enlightened in that a movie's greatness can even exist outside of our own emotions and personal preferences; while a Transformers can be "exciting," throughout like any fun dance club hit, that in and of itself doesn't make it a better composition than a well-crafted country music song to even a person that dislikes country. It only signifies a person's taste, not an inherent quality of any creative art. Transformers does not attempt nor achieve to make anyone think about anything; one merely watches and enjoys. Mission accomplished. But a Europa Report, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and so on stirs one's thinking beyond mere emotions. There's something to be said that can make one's brain fire on cylinders beyond one-directional viewing. If there's a detector for a universal truth to what defines something as being "good," or "bad," it certainly lies closer in the realm of pure thought rather than pure emotion--and perhaps sits perfectly balanced somewhere in between. I appreciated your insight. Thank you.
You're welcome and I agree. A movie can be accepted as good but people may not like it, or vice versa. I believe some movies are just for entertainment and some others have something to say. I enjoyed Europa Report and it also made me think about the universe and possibilities about life and other beings apart from us. The movie doesn't have to be perfect in every detail. Every movie has goofs. And to ban a film as "having nothing to like" is too rude and unfair, from the comfort of our armchairs. Different people have different choices according to their experiences. Someone else may like it and the people working to shoot this film must have worked hard. Few mistakes shouldn't disregard the work of those people. Deciding on a good or a bad movie, even though based on some standards shouldn't be this easy.
I thought movie was good until they entered the orbit of Europa. Every decision that was made after that didn't make sense at all, and seemed unlike what actual astronauts would do. It seemed very contrived from that point on.
I agree with others that the foreshadowing of the Engineer's death took away some of the impact, although the scene of the spacecraft receding from his view was emotionally moving. 3/5 stars.
Agreed! I absolutely loved this movie for all those reasons. I kept watching right till the end... and I really felt the crew's sadness and desperation. Beautifully done. I wonder how much they paid NASA, and if that was where all the money went (NASA payments and set design). It was so good I watched it again right after. It really made you feel as if you were right there with the crew. The image cutting out was annoying even if realistic, and the conversation felt unclear/ mumbled at times, but the film itself was so compelling I got over that real fast. It's so difficult to find good sci-fi anymore, and this really hit the spot. Just... amazing. Things like this make life worthwhile :)
I enjoyed it immensely and all the outrage on this board by pretentious pocket-protectors, closet zealots who hated the film triumphing science over blind faith, and bottom-line penny-pinchers who see human space travel as unfeasible just makes me like the movie even more.