It's so funny, prior to The Hunger Games, I doubt one person in a thousand had ever heard of Battle Royale. Now, thanks largely to the trolls, it's probably become very popular for the first time ever.
BR trolls, you should thank Suzanne Collins and The Hunger Games for giving your little troll movie a bit of a lift.
It's so funny, prior to The Hunger Games, I doubt one person in a thousand had ever heard of Battle Royale.
Classic response of a narcissist--"I didn't know about it; therefore, most of the world didn't."
Now, thanks largely to the trolls, it's probably become very popular for the first time ever.
It was always popular. Don't live up to the stereotype of the arrogant American (or wherever you're from) who thinks that because something wasn't mainstream in your country, it wasn't very popular.
BR trolls, you should thank Suzanne Collins and The Hunger Games for giving your little troll movie a bit of a lift.
Battle Royale got all the publicity it could've ever needed when Quentin Tarantino cast one of the actresses from the movie and said publicly how much he loved it. To suggest that it was a hack writer like Collins who finally gave Battle Royale publicity--when a world-renowned director like Tarantino had hyped it up years before--is beyond laughable.
Battle Royale got all the publicity it could've ever needed when Quentin Tarantino cast one of the actresses from the movie and said publicly how much he loved it. To suggest that it was a hack writer like Collins who finally gave Battle Royale publicity--when a world-renowned director like Tarantino had hyped it up years before--is beyond laughable.
And yet nobody rushed out to get those jumpsuits. Mainly because it was pretty ugly and all everyone in the audience asked why Uma Thurman was wearing it. Because nobody knew what it was. And BR was still not released for another 10 years in North America.
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The Battle Royale films are laughable as well occasionally, but at least they get the dreadfulness of a battle royale somewhat right. When a bunch of people must kill each other in an arena I can imagine things get ruthless and nasty pretty soon. I really missed that in the first two Hunger Games movies: they just remain so nice and clean. A battle royale should keep me on the edge of my seat, a recipe for some great drama. The first two Hunger Games never even get remotely tense.
Well they will just have to limp along without your approval. _____________ I am the Queen of Snark, TStopped said so. And I have groupies, Atomic Girl said so.
you know whats funny. People don't have their imagination so they steal other people's ideas and them dumb them down for dumb Americans. Battle Royale was a cult classic straight away.
Where? It was never released in North America and it has faded completely in Japan. So where on earth is it a cult classic? It's biggest fan club worldwide has less than 600 members. That's lass than 100 people for 60 countries Doesn't it take quite a lot of fans to become a cult classic, or is being unknown and unloved the criteria now?
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Never released in North America? Also the Cult following clearly shows that a film can be released in cinema 11 years after its made. Plus it was a cult classic before the film was made. As this was manga/book which was first written in 1996, was entered into competition in 1997 and finally published in 1999. in 2005 Stephen King said its a book that you must read. Battle Royale was extremely popular in Asia and Japan because of its purity in terms of creative and being original. here is just a link to wiki about Battle Royale the manga not the film. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale
Also how much money was put into Hunger games $78,000,000 million for the first and Mocking Jay part 1 was 125,000,000 million where as Battle Royale was an estimated 4,500,000 which means it was actually around 3-4 million.
RELEASE: Battle Royale was released on December 16, 2000, in Japan, grossing ¥3.11 billion domestically (over $25 million US).[3][19] Over the next two years, the film was distributed to cinemas throughout Asia, Australia, Europe, and South America (in addition to Mexico), gaining early cult film followings in France, the United Kingdom, Germany, Spain, and the Philippines.[citation needed]
The first showing in the US was at the Pacific Film Archive in Berkeley, California, in 2002.[20]
The original 113-minute version of the film began its first North American theatrical run at the Cinefamily Theater in Los Angeles on December 24, 2011 – 11 years after its original Japanese release.[21] The planned 9-day run was extended another 6 days due to popular demand.[22] Beginning in early 2012, the film has been publicly exhibited at screenings in many American universities, including those in Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Texas and Massachusetts, with a New York City run at the IFC Center that began on May 25, 2012. As of June 2012, it has been regularly showing at the Projection Booth Theatre, site of the former Gerrard Cinema in Toronto, Canada.[23][24][25] The Cleveland Cinematheque also held a screening of the film on April 3, 2012.[26]
Never released in North America? Also the Cult following clearly shows that a film can be released in cinema 11 years after its made. Plus it was a cult classic before the film was made.
It was never released in North American theatres at all, never mind 11 years after it was made. It did have a DVD release. It reached the heady heights of No 50 in April 2012, it fell below No 200 in May 2012 (The charts don't go lower than No 200). That's a pretty small cult. And yes it was a hit in Japan in 2000, what part of the US is Japan in...North, South, East or West? Try looking for that Manga on any best selling list in the US for 2001-2-3-4-5-6. You wont find it, but you will find the best selling mangas. Try looking for the novel on any best selling list for foreign novels, you wont find it there either. Well it didn't sell. Again that's a pretty small cult. Try lecturing someone who hasn't done the research.
Also how much money was put into Hunger games $78,000,000 million for the first and Mocking Jay part 1 was 125,000,000 million where as Battle Royale was an estimated 4,500,000 which means it was actually around 3-4 million.
The $125 million budget was for both Mockinjay 1 & 2, and don't try and pull that cr*p on me. I know how much the average Japanese film budget is. 'Ringu' was made in 2000 and cost $48 million to make, it made $250 million world wide. That was a hit Japanese movie. IT's listed on Box Office Mojo because it actually was released in the US. BR isn't listed because it wasn't. This is the link to the release dates and number of screens it played in each country is was released in. The US isn't listed because a one night showing for a film festival doesn't count. And you forgot the film festival in Claveleand as well.
Jeesh, you would think that these things couldn't be researched. Post again when you have actually got something to say that hasn't been posted and disproved a million times already.
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Do you even understand the term Cult Classic compared is not the same as Commercial success? Films like Transformers are not cult classics, while they are hugely successful they are pretty *beep* Hunger games while it is a commercial success is a *beep* plot holed film. Which was designed for Teens. As for your comparison Akira wasn't huge at the cinemas, but it is a great cult classic. The Fact that you think Hunger Games is worthy of 10 stars, 9 stars and 8 stars respectively just shows how much you need to be entertained by films that are explicitly dumbed down for their audience and full of illogical and stupid choices. Here is a list of Cult films, i dont think Hunger games make a list, but BR does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cult_films#B
Yes I understand the term cult classic. A film/book that is popular with a tiny segment of the population so that they can feel superior about knowing the existence of it. It is unknown to the rest of the population. Do you know what 'unknown' means, how about obscure? That's a better definition of 'cult classic'. _____________ I am the Queen of Snark, TStopped said so. And I have groupies, Atomic Girl said so.
127,000 registered users gave this film a rating. Key word is Registered. BR is the inspiration to Hunger Games, even though the writer claims its not. You can clearly see it is. Akira is in the top 250 films of all time and it has less rating then BR with 88,000
so please check your definition of Unknown. The fact that you sincerely think that Battle Royale is unknown just makes you so naive. The film is part of nearly every film school's movies to study. Your argument and choices in films is flawed. You believe that Hunger Games is better then the Godfather, 12 angry men and even Gladiator (3 stars???) Yet Hunger Games is 10 stars? The kid paints himself as a tree. How the Fak did he paint his entire body with tree bark paint in 10 seconds? how did he reach all of those parts? or and Why on Earth didn't they just shoot or throw rocks at J-law when she was in a tree?? The film was stupid and it was aimed for American audience. Don't know what that means Google it. It is when people edit their films specifically so that its easier to understand.
Wow, am I supposed to be impressed by this. Let's look at it a little deeper shall we. There are 23,298 votes from members who actually live in the US. If we deduct at least half of those votes because of the sock accounts...well that's an average of about a 1000 a year since the film was released. And you know there are sock accounts, all you have to do is look at this board and then actually look at the BR board. The trolls don't last long there because, A. The real fans of the films hate them. B. The real fans of the film hate them because they know nothing about the film.
There are 578 reviews up and they are all dated. For the first ten years the film was out it had about 50 reviews from the US, about 10 a year, I am so (not) impressed. Shall we look at the DVD charts for the number of copies sold. That's people actually buying the film. Oh that's right, it's not on any chart because nobody has bought it. Well it did get to No 50 in April 2012, but in May it had fallen below No 200 in the DVD chart for the US. Check it out. And I notice that you have never posted on the BR board, I wonder why?
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Ok, I am ending this debate once and for all. Summeriris is correct. BR is not a cult classic and is NOT better than the Hunger Games. How do I know this? BECAUSE I LIVE IN JAPAN.
I can prove that BR is not really that popular or a cult classic even though it apparently is listed in wikipedia. I have a friend here in Japan who had never read Battle Royale or heard of it. He said he would ask his wife about it and he did. His wife, who is Japanese, had also not read Battle Royale or seen the movie, and not just that. SHE HAD NOT EVEN HEARD OF IT! YES, a Japanese citizen had not even HEARD of BATTLE ROYALE.
Secondly, if you go to the bookstores in Japan they might have a copy of Battle Royale IN THE BARGAIN BIN. The Mangas I have found at a discounted book bargain/anime place but only there. I have never even seen the movie or the books in a regular book or Japanese movie store.
Don't get me wrong, Battle Royale is entertaining, but it is no Hunger Games. The Hunger Games expands beyond "the games" into a full blown story, which BR just doesn't have. The reason Summeriris rated the movies so high, is because they are GOOD. It also does not have the same following that the Hunger Games does.
If you want to argue, go ahead, but I live in Japan. I know what is popular and what is not.
It's no big secret that the Japanese aren't big movie-goers, or that the majority of Japanese films are geared towards the international market.
Ever notice how all the down voting on the 'Battle Royale 2' score is from North Americans only? I assure you it's regarded highly as a classic everywere else. This is to be expected as BR2 was a harsh critique on Bush's post-911 United States.
Check out the scores yourself if you don't believe me.
@ audrey-hagar-1 Anyhow I enjoyed your insights. Any info on how the sequel, Battle Royale 2, was recieved in Japan, since that is the real movie in question here?
You are correct in that the Japanese aren't huge moviegoers. The things that they enjoy watching most are anime movies (yes, they show anime movies in their movie theaters and it is a huge event) and spider-man. I remember when The Amazing Spiderman came out. It came out a week earlier here in Japan and it was pretty packed. Also, they have their own Japanese movies that stay within their national market that people watch.
Regarding BR2, I'm almost positive that since the first one is barely, if even, remembered at all, the second one is almost nonexistent. I have done research as well and BR2 was poorly received in Japan when it came out.
Thank you for a factual disclosure on the actual state of the BR 'fandom' in Japan. It's what all my research pointed too so it's nice to have that research confirmed. I would say that BR is a 'cult classic' though. It's just that it has a very small, tiny even cult following in the West. And in the US you could even call the following...miniscule.
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we'll see an an Hollywood "adaption" soon enough from the US, mark my words =======================
No, Hollywood is working on an adaptation of Homer's Odyssey. Judging from some really stupid posts that I have read recently, some of the trolls can't tell the difference.
Just saying that BR was not that obscure. Come on. Maybe in US where we know people are much very culturally egocentric, specially when it comes to comics and movies. But around the world BR was indeed considered cult and entered tons lists of best movie of the year from specialized magazines.
But it is indeed good that it gets more attention now with a huge hollywood franchise like hunger games. That's what art is all about. It is waste of time to keep arguing about plagiarism.
Battle Royale was nominated for nine awards at the 2001 Academy Awards, and won four of them: Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay and Best Leading Actor, but thanks for the "factual" disclosure.
Where the hell did you believe this crap from? BR was only nominated for awards at the Japanese Academy Awards, which I think is quite different from the prestigious Academy Awards. And then it won NONE of the awards you highlighted. It only won 3 crappy ones: 'Outstanding Achievement in Film Editing, Newcomer of the Year, and Popularity Award.'
You Battle Royale trolls are so full of BS, you have to make up crap to support your lame movie.
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Japanese Academy Awards, which I think is quite different from the prestigious Academy Awards. ============== For one thing, I presume the Awards' real names are in Japanese! The troll knew perfectly well that when posting on an English-language movie site, "Academy Awards" mean the Oscars.
It's so funny, prior to The Hunger Games, I doubt one person in a thousand had ever heard of Battle Royale. Now, thanks largely to the trolls, it's probably become very popular for the first time ever.
BR trolls, you should thank Suzanne Collins and The Hunger Games for giving your little troll movie a bit of a lift.
Not really. I only saw the beginning of BR years ago and had read about it. First think I thought when I heard about HG was Battle Royale. There's room for both but BR did come first.
No true at all. Battle Royale is a hugely popular cult movie... I can't speak for this board.. but any movie buff over 25, the second they heard/read the premise of Hunger Games saw the similarities right away.
I'm not discrediting The Hunger Games (I liked the books) and the movies have some entertaining visuals and moments, but great movies have come before..
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