It's so funny, prior to The Hunger Games, I doubt one person in a thousand had ever heard of Battle Royale. Now, thanks largely to the trolls, it's probably become very popular for the first time ever.
BR trolls, you should thank Suzanne Collins and The Hunger Games for giving your little troll movie a bit of a lift.
I intend to live forever.
So far, so good.
Oh it's not that popular. None of them have ever seen it.
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America is literally starving for decent movies. Sadly Big Hollywood is more interested in putting out uncredit ripoffs of mangas and anime than giving the people original content.
share"bollywoodbuttsquirts" - I take it you're a troll, because the irony in making that statement and having 'Bollywood' in your name is amazing.
shareHow so? Hollywood overtook Bollywood as the plagiarism capital of earth sometime in the current decade. The Hunger Games series being a prime example.
sharelol no they haven't and they never well. Do you know anything about Bollywood cinema because here are some examples of plagiarism over the last decade:
DISCLAIMER: Bollywood does not represent all of Indian cinema, just the Hindi language film industry based in Mumbai.
Bunty Aur Babli 2005 - Bonnie & Clyde 1967
Chocolate: Deep Dark Secrets 2005 - The Usual Suspects 1995
Deewane Huye Pagal 2005 - There's Something About Mary 1998
Ek Ajnabee 2005 - Man on Fire 2004
Ek Khiladi Ek Haseena 2005 - Confidence 2003
Garam Masala 2005 - Boeing Boeing 1965
Main Aisa Hi Hoon 2005 - I am Sam 2001
Maine Pyar Kyun Kiya? 2005 - Cactus Flower 1969
Naina 2005 - The Eye 2002
Zeher 2005 - Out of Time 2003
Fight Club:Members Only 2006 - Fight Club 1999
Naksha 2006 - The Rundown 2003
Phir Hera Pheri 2006 - Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels 1998
I See You 2006 - Just Like Heaven 2005
Tathastu 2006 - John Q 2002
Malamaal Weekly 2006 - Waking Ned 1998
Aap Ki Khatir 2006 - The Wedding Date 2003
Taxi No. 9211 2006 - Changing Lanes 2002
The Killer 2006 - Collateral 2004
Awarapan 2007 - A Bittersweet Life 2005
Bheja Fry 2007 - Diner de cons 1998
Naqaab 2007 - Dot the I 2003
Fool n Final 2007 - Snatch 2000
Heyy Babyy 2007 - Three Men and a Baby 1987
Partner 2007 - Hitch 2005
The Train 2007 - Derailed 2005
Manorama Six Feet Under 2007 - Chinatown 1974
Welcome 2007 - Mickey Blue Eyes 1999
Ugly Aur Pagli 2008 - My Sassy Girl 2001
God Tussi Great Ho 2008 - Bruce Almighty 2003
Dostana 2008 - I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry 2007
Ghajini 2008 - Memento 2000
Bang Bang 2014 - Knight and Day 2010
Here's more if you're interested: http://www.filmykeeday.com/huge-list-of-hollywood-remakes-in-bollywood-121-movies/
Hunger Games is not plagiarism of anything because it is an adaption of a book and don't bring up Battle Royale because they are two completely different films. But the main difference between Hollywood and Bollywood is that Hollywood give credit to what they're re-making and Bollywood doesn't, that is pure plagiarism and it still goes on in the industry today. Look at the case of Zinda (2006) the unofficial re-make of Oldboy (2003) that resulted in high plagiarism accusations, Spike Lee at least had the rights to re-make Oldboy and gave credit, the director of Zinda didn't claiming it was his own original creation when it is shot by shot scene by scene Oldboy, just set in Thailand. Hollywood is nowhere near at that level.
Edit: After looking at your profile, you seem to know this so TLDR version is Hollywood give credit, Bollywood doesn't
Looks like Hollywood has far to go if they want to catch up with modern Hollywood in the plagiarism dept.
they can't even do a new star wars movie without feeding on they own upchuck> At least Bollywood would add some original songs back in the day....
I was very disappointed that Zinda didn't have any song and dance numbers. I would love to see a Bollywood version of The Hunger Games/Battle Royale, actually surprised they haven't done their own version considering the huge success it has been
shareI bet you she is lying.... These hunger games sequels are rip offs of the movie Battle Royale 2, a movie where the Japanese government captures a class of ninth-grade students and forces them to kill each other under the revolutionary "Battle Royale" act. In the movie there are 42 kids that have to kill each other, in the hunger games there is 24 tributes. there can be only one winner, but this time a star-crosed couple are allowed to survive, and they go on to become symbols of an impending revolution in a dystopian alternate universe? coincidence? i think not... urgh
seen what? BR is much more appreciated as a manga than as a movie
shareBR was a huge international cult hit. Believe it or not the spoonfed mainstream cinematic bubble you live in doesn't actually apply to everyone who watches movies.
shareIt didn't have a big enough or long enough release to be a big hit internationally. You would think that this couldn't be checked up on. It was never released in the US and it had a very small and short European release. That was it. The thing about facts is that they can be checked up on.
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Looks like BR was a huge international cult hit. According to every last online source I checked, it's basically the Harry Potter of Asia.
Wonder if Collins realized that before she signed her own name to Takami's original works?
it's probably become very popular for the first time ever.
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"Known", yes, I don't know about "popular". To me it'll always be associated with wierdos who repeat themselves ad nauseum and like naming themselves after excrement.
It's been a household word in the US/Europe/Asia/Oceania owing to its worldwide cult status for over 15 years now. I very much doubt any increase in popularity has made much difference, as The Hunger Games franchise isn't really very popular outside of the United States.
share"The Hunger Games franchise isn't really very popular outside of the United States."
come on Dippy. you can make up something better than this piece of fiction. Mockingjay pt 1 made $337,135,885 in the states and $414,964,344 worldwide. that says it is very popular.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain (Isaac Asimov)
Let's look at those figures again, and this time really pay attention:
come on Dippy. you can make up something better than this piece of fiction. Mockingjay pt 1 made $337,135,885 in the states and $414,964,344 worldwide. that says it is very popular.If the worldwide gross is nearly the same as the domestic, then how does that refrute my claim that Hunger Games is virtually unknown outside of its home-country?
if it were virtually unknown outside of the states, it would not have made $400 plus million dollars. that total says people all over the world saw it. many people. same for the other films.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain (Isaac Asimov)
Nope. The Worldwide gross is nearly equal to the domestic. That basically means it tanked overseas...
shareIt actually made more Worldwide than domestic.
Domestic = 300,000.
Worldwide (not counting domestic) = 400,000.
Since we are looking at the popularity of the movie, it is insufficient to just look at the total money made. Yes, if these numbers are correct, that the movie did make more worldwide than in the US but we need to figure out the "popularity" of the movie from these numbers.
$337,135,885 made in the US and with the average cost of a movie ticket being $9 (I think I'm being generous here), we can do some math and say that about 37.5 million people went to watch the movie. Since the US population is roughly 318.9 million, we can see that about 11.8% of the population went to watch the movie.
Now compared to worldwide...
$414,964,344 made worldwide. Statistically speaking, average price of movie ticket worldwide comes to about $4.74 in the year 2014. This means that about 87.5 million people went to watch this movie. Though this number is much higher than the US, when taken into consideration that the world population (minus the US) is roughly 6.68 billion, only 1.3% of the world population (minus the US) went to watch the movie.
11.8% of the US population watched the movie
1.3% worldwide (minus US) watched the movie
We can say for sure that this movie is not very popular worldwide and maybe even, virtually unknown.
11.8% of the US population watched the movie
1.3% worldwide (minus US) watched the movie
You mean apart from the fact that the Hunger Games tanked overseas, or...
C'mon guys, why would people overseas be interested in part 1 of part 3 of a film series that never actually played in their country?
Haven't the rest of the movies aired overseas too?
shareNot really, just English speaking countries like the UK & Australia, the rest of the world already has BATTLE ROYALE 2: Requiem.
shareThe rest of the world huh?.. lol you sound so ignorant. Every person in Europe knows about The Hunger Games movies. But few have probably heard of BBR 1 or 2. Thats nerd stuff for the seekers. ( Dident say i dont like them, only that there very unknown ) The hunger games are big budget Hollywood productions and as such plays in every movie theatre in the developed world.
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I live in Europe, I know exactly how popular BR is not in Europe, I know when it was shown, where it was shown and for how long. France is the country it was most popular in and it was last shown there about 12 years ago, Please don't tell me BR was popular in Europe, even today these things can be checked. Like the US there is a miniscule amount of film buffs for Asian films. Europe happens to boast a great film industry, something that judging from your favourite list you know nothing about. BR is done with in Europe, it never really started.
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They're not that unknown, I learned of Battle Royale when I was 14 and at the time I wasn't at all fussed about Japanese cinema.
It was heavily advertised by Channel 4 in the Uk when it got its terrestrial screening. I think a lot of people do know it over here. HMV always has it front and center when they have an Asian cinema thing going on. It's spoken of quite heavily in movie trivia and referenced a lot. It may not be mainstream but it is well known.
Hunger Games are very mainstream but, apart from Jennifer Lawrence, what will it be remembered for? Nothing.
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In response to 'ilovemomos' the estimate you have made for worldwide us invalid. If around 6.68 billion people live outside the USA you need to consider how many of these people were unable to view this film. If you consider that India's population is 1.25 billion, where the majority of the population live in poverty, ofcourse most of these people wouldn't have been able to afford to visit the cinema or may have had no access to one. Then in China where the film was banned, the population is 1.35 billion. And essentially many people in Africa and South America couldn't have seen the film.
You need to consider that only a minority of people live in MEDC's outside the USA. Therefore only small populations in Europe, Asia and South America are able to afford to the visit the cinema and can have access to them.
Therefore I would estimate that more than 10% of people have seen the film, in areas where they are able to. Considering this is 1 in 10 I think this is quite remarkable, and think it's therefore safe to conclude that the Hunger Games is popular worldwide.
I also think it's weird that people here are discrediting the Hunger Games for being unpopular, when the total worldwide box office for Battle Royale is $25 million, a mediocre sum when compared to the Hunger Games. Therefore I think it is safe to assume that Battle Royale isn't popular worldwide whatsoever.
I understand that dvd sales may have brought income, but I'm pretty certain that the Hunger Games DVD's and Blu-ray's will pull in more, considering the Catching Fire was the 2nd bestselling DVD in 2014.
The points being made on this thread are invalid. The Hunger Games is clearly more popular worldwide, and pretty much better critically when observing all films in both franchises. Give it a rest and stop having a tantrum because people like the Hunger Games better.
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All of You are wasting Your time by arguing with each other when clearly neither side will change their stance. Also just because people went to see a movie, that doesn't mean they enjoyed it, and if I remember correctly Mockinjay part 1 didn't do as well as the others, and part 2 preformed the lowest out of the whole series. The Hunger games will lose it's spark within a few months, and most of the teens will move on to the newest fad.
shareDomestic = 300,000.
Worldwide (not counting domestic) = 400,000.
This says it well enough:
In response to 'ilovemomos' the estimate you have made for worldwide us invalid. If around 6.68 billion people live outside the USA you need to consider how many of these people were unable to view this film. If you consider that India's population is 1.25 billion, where the majority of the population live in poverty, ofcourse most of these people wouldn't have been able to afford to visit the cinema or may have had no access to one. Then in China where the film was banned, the population is 1.35 billion. And essentially many people in Africa and South America couldn't have seen the film.share
You need to consider that only a minority of people live in MEDC's outside the USA. Therefore only small populations in Europe, Asia and South America are able to afford to the visit the cinema and can have access to them.
Therefore I would estimate that more than 10% of people have seen the film, in areas where they are able to. Considering this is 1 in 10 I think this is quite remarkable, and think it's therefore safe to conclude that the Hunger Games is popular worldwide.
I also think it's weird that people here are discrediting the Hunger Games for being unpopular, when the total worldwide box office for Battle Royale is $25 million, a mediocre sum when compared to the Hunger Games. Therefore I think it is safe to assume that Battle Royale isn't popular worldwide whatsoever.
I understand that dvd sales may have brought income, but I'm pretty certain that the Hunger Games DVD's and Blu-ray's will pull in more, considering the Catching Fire was the 2nd bestselling DVD in 2014.
The points being made on this thread are invalid. The Hunger Games is clearly more popular worldwide, and pretty much better critically when observing all films in both franchises. Give it a rest and stop having a tantrum because people like the Hunger Games better.
you do know that the international market is far far far larger than the us domestic one? you stupid ******** american..
god no wonder people hate you and your country
Now now, you poor, stupid, uneducated little primitive. First, WE know what the international market is. That's the point. The nattering barbarians above don't seem to get it. So we have, in small words, attempted to explain how the numbers work. But they, no doubt other micro-cephalic drones such as yourself, continue to prattle on with their inane stupidity.
And thus we arrive at why you "hate" us. Because hate is the emotion most easily grasped and used by emotion driven, cultural and intellectual inferiors such as yourself. Now, shut up, and for God sake don't breed. We're sick of having to take care of you foreign cave dwellers
Another false post from "Dippy."
I live in the UK and the Hunger Games franchise is huge. Everyone knows what it is, even the elderly recognise it. Also, I never see the cinemas as packed and busy as when the Hunger Games films open! And it's not just teenagers there - I reckon two thirds are adults.
As for Battle Royale being a "household word." What the hell are you talking about?
Apart from the few manga loving nerds that hang out in libraries and still live at home with their parents when they're 40, I haven't come across anyone who is aware of Battle Royale. In fact the only reason I know about it is because of the Hunger Games which I think is the reason many people know about it.
Compare the ratings distributions for both, I think you'll find substantially more people have seen the hunger ganes outside the USA.
Battle Royale is lame, unpopular and appeals to only nerds and people with way roo much time on their hands. It has no status.
Once again - DEAL WITH IT!!!!
No one is saying BR2 is as popular as THG:M1, although some might argue that is now a household word since the Hunger Games came out, as its appeal has always been of the 'cult' variety. Even before the Hunger Games hype, it had a similar cult-like fanbase here despite the fact there was no 'official' USA release (because of the Columbine school massacre at the time). Sure, call them manga loving nerds or whatever, the fact is there's alot of them, and now that theres been an official release, thanks largely to the Hunger Games, its finally time to welcome BR2 into the mainstream, as it were - like all new and influential ideas it is controversial at first, then it becomes assimilated into the Spiritus Mundi. BR2 has secured its place in Cinema History if for no other reason tan that it is the first of its kind and created a whole new SciFi sub-genre: The Dystopian Political thriller.
It's so funny, prior to The Hunger Games, I doubt one person in a thousand had ever heard of Battle Royale. Now, thanks largely to the trolls, it's probably become very popular for the first time everActually, far more people around the world know about BATTLE ROYALE 2, than know about the Hunger Games, even though the latter is at its highth of popularity at present.
BR trolls, you should thank Suzanne Collins and The Hunger Games for giving your little troll movie a bit of a lift.
I saw battle Royale long before I ever heard of The Hunger Games. It was spread by word of mouth by a lot of people that I know personally. In fact, I think more people think BR is better than THG, anyone who isn't a teenager, that is.
shareYou mean like THG audience that had more people over 3o than under it? And just once I would like to have it proved that BR sells well in DVD form. It's never on a sales chart, even if you go to the most popular 500 DVDs charts.
You would think that it was impossible to check these things.
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A new take on an old idea. Gladiators existed in Ancient Japan, Greece had their games sometime later, it's just that The Hunger Games were marketable and aimed towards kids. I wouldn't say it ripped off the stories you mentioned, but more that its just an unoriginal idea that was well marketed. I DO take issue when someone says how "original" the story is when they are clearly wrong.
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Wouldn't a "troll movie" usually come out after the original?
Maybe THG is the troll movie. Would that blow your mind, or what?