Is it to quell the gay rumors?
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Robin was in The LEGO Batman Movie (2017).
sharethe movies are too dark for the robin character.
shareI think taking the franchise in such a dark direction was a mistake. They could make a killing off the next Batman movie if they returned to the camp comedy of the original comic and original 60's series. That's what made Batman unique.
Remember in the series Batman and Robin would zap a villain and there'd be a big "Kapow!!!" That's what the newer films lack.
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The original Batman comics from the 30s, 40s, and 50s were dark though. He didn't become campy and comedic til the 60s. Personally I wouldn't mind Robin being in a movie but not like the tone of the Shaumacher movies or the Adam West show.
shareI disagree. The camp of the 60's series is what brought Batman to a general audience, not just young males who read comic books.
It's time for something different. It's bad enough that the studios just keep extending these same unoriginal franchises out to make easy money.
But I saw this new Batman in the theater recently and I found it tiresome.
Time for something vibrant and witty from Batman. We've had enough of the dark attempt at "realism".
Whatever. I hate the Adam West show and movie. Rather have a darker tone for Batman. Now Superman needs a lighter tone but not Batman.
shareHave you seen this new one? I agree with critics who call it a "dark slog". Time for something new. The attempt to apply "dark realism" to a comic book character doesn't work anymore.
shareYeah. And I liked it. I woudn't mind a somewhat less lighter tone for Batman but not a completely comedic tone like Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Those movies whether you like it or not were not considered good by most people which is why we have movies like this one.
shareI think this new Batman film is the best take on the character to date. Batman doesn't work well with a light, campy tone because the entire point of Batman is that he's borderline insane, and devotes his life to violent vengeance. Pattinson's Bruce Wayne is the only incarnation of the character that strikes me as remotely realistic. That's exactly how a person who witnessed his parents murdered and now spends his life dressed like a giant bat to instill fear in criminals would act.
Superman is exactly where the lighter tone works, and attempts at "grittiness" fail. The best Superman films are the first two with Christopher Reeve.
best laugh line in Batman..JL...Flash "whats your super power?" Batman 'I'm rich"
shareI agree that the first two movies, "Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin", were hard fails. I saw them in the 90's but barely remember them. They were not memorable.
But I'm writing here as a guy who is not enamored of superhero films to begin with.
I still think a great script with a great director exploring the camp element here, and not trying to take itself too seriously, would be a work of art, if only it could be pulled off.
As my title suggests, even play with the homoerotic element, but as we're appealing to general audiences, give Batman a femme fatale on the side.
Marlon Wayans as Robin: how could that have not been a win? But he was cut from "Batman Returns" before release.
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Agree 100 percent with what you are saying. A light-hearted Batman during the 1960's brought exposure to 10's of millions who could see it as easily as clicking on the television set. Those viewers were joined by many more during the 1970's when the series was ran in syndication usually on weekday afternoons after school. This was the basis for Warner Brothers to take a chance on making a movie in 1989 as they most likely projected an audience into the 10's of millions who long hungered for their hero to make a return in live action. A movie project would have never been considered strictly off of comic books sales back then. Then it was decades of comparisons and criticism as new projects were done. The idea of a stand alone movie or series is nothing new but seems unsophisticated in this day and age so taking Batman to the very edge in plot seems unsatisfying. It makes more sense to scale Batman down to what he was during the TV series in the 1960's in terms of stakes. Battling villains who are attempting to steal 10's of millions of dollars in 2022 versus a cool million in 1966. As a kid I enjoyed the cliffhangers but I doubt that works today. At least the kinky type bondage traps.
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You're obviously very angry at the world for reasons I will not even guess at. There is no need to be abusive to anyone here. You have made your ideas known so let it stop at that. Diminishing others is no way to have a discussion. This is an entertainment franchise and not real life. I may not agree with someone here but I don't rip people to shreds. You should feel ashamed for the way you treat others but I have a feeling you feel no shame. Peace.
shareEh, Iβm fine without Robin. I think once you start introducing side kicks the series starts to nuke the fridge. I thought Robin in the Schumacher films was somewhat well handled but it seriously took the attention off of Batman and when you are already introducing a new Batman I donβt think thatβs the time to introduce Robin.
sharePlus, in recent movies, Gordon kind of acts like Batman's sidekick when he needs help. No need for a systematic unessential teammate.
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Uh, a little too much vitriol over a silly character in a movie. Anyone can compare our posts and see who is serious and who needs to step out of his bedroom and get some fresh air.
We have enough superhero movies in he same old vane. Time for something creative. Time for a heavy dose of camp with the violence. The Dynamic Duo is tried and true and merely because it wasn't handled properly in the 90's, it doesn't mean the Dynamic Duo is dead.
You sound like a superhero fanboy. But the genre is playing out.
Why pay two actors when you don't have to?
shareIn this movie, I think it's because they wanted to make Batman as crazy and isolated as possible.
I don't think this Batman can ever have a Robin, he's so... batshit! If he mentored a kid to be anything like himself, it wouldn't seem like Wayne was making the kid into a superhero. It'd seem like he was dragging an innocent kid into the dark hellpit of his insanity.
Nolan had a good reason to omit him. Reeves doesn't, he's just imitating Nolan, who is his daddy
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