Alien ripoff - The Last Days on Mars (2013) Discussion

[–] ajukoor 11 years ago

Maybe I'm stupid or something but I didn't see many things that reminded me the Alien movies.

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[–] ajukoor 11 years ago

Well, thank you. No one hasn't yelled at me a long time. It was refreshing.

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[–] ajukoor 11 years ago

That's good. She needs entertainment. It gets quite lonely in the graveyard. And with me *beep* myself, I'm actaully masturbating at the moment.

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Ewww, too much info!

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[–] droppit 11 years ago

Ok, having just watched this film and being a huge fan if the alien franchise and Liev Shreiber, I have a couple of things to say;

1) It is nothing like alien.

2) Liev is as brilliant as ever.

3) Nunoangos1 is a very very angry person.

It's an entertaining film, it killed 90 minutes and the end left me asking questions. If you enjoy scifi and Liev Shreiber, watch this film. Yes, it's not a blockbuster but its a good film.

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[–] NatalieFan 10 years ago

Referencing the Alien franchise, he's probably referring to Prometheus, which I will grant that it has some likeness. Definitely not a ripoff, though.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but from memory: both take place on mars, both plots are initiated by some form of space exploration/scientific researching, both deal with a form of mind control(host control) and both build up to an ending where the crew of 7-8 is being whittled down the remaining few and they struggle to escape the planet intact, via the last airship on the planet.

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

U just mentioned some points that make it an Alien/Prometheus ripoff LOL. Also, you said Prometheus takes place in Mars?!?! REALLY? LOL.. I'm wasting my time with ppl like u. That just proves how wrong you are, about the location and it not being a ripoff. Go buy yourself a brain.

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[–] B_Lab 11 years ago

Yea, this kid's been spamming about the same thing apparently... irate over nothing... but yelling like his life depends on opinions over a movie about aliens apparently?? Weirdness

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[–] ajukoor 11 years ago

I wouldn't go that far to call it plagiarism.

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Because you don't have a brain. If you had a brain and watched Alien you would see it's PLAGIARISM plain and simple.

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[–] ajukoor 11 years ago

Meeting an unknown lifeform on strange planet or space station is very much used theme. Alien isn't the only movie with such premise.

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[–] d-adrian-williams 11 years ago

ok star trek had humans visiting other worlds and encounting different aliens and that was in the 1960's so by that definition alien ripped off star trek, or whoever did this before star trek as im using as the only early example i know, before the sci fi geeks attack me.

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

omg lol no brain, next

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[–] d-adrian-williams 10 years ago

do you know how many sci fi directors grew up watching star trek? aliens as a whole sparked a whole generation of so called rip offs, there plenty to choose from, when it come to space theres a lot of influences like the bright white inside of the nostromo dining room, reminds me of 2001 a space oddysee, theres lots of influences in these sci fi movies, thats why something like alien still looks relatively fresh, but theres a lot of movies out there u shouldnt be happy with if you think this is a rip off, i personally didnt watch it and thought at any point this is an alien rip off, good film actually.

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[–] nunoanjos1 10 years ago

I see IMDB staff have been deleting my comments, idk why. Maybe they work for TLDOM, that piece of *CENSORED*. Your english is very confusing and hard to follow. If you are still saying TLDOM is not an Alien ripoff and it's actually good, OMG, you still don't have a brain. Someone with a brain talk to me pls.

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[–] d-adrian-williams 10 years ago

because sayin i have no brain because i dont agree with you is the mature way to do things.....

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[–] nunoanjos1 10 years ago

See, you use the word "because" excecessvly, 2 times in just 7 words. It's too much. A good writer doesn't repeat the same words over and over again.

As for your lacking brain, I didn't insult you for no reason. Actually, the points you make are so basic (I didn't use a more appropriate word to avoid IMDB's excessive censorship, you know, if I did, in IMDB staff's minds maybe babies heads could explode but a kid turns on the TV and hears the F word 100 times a day and 1000 times a day at school and 100000 times a day in the street but I can't say it 1 time in IMDB or babies heads could explode, go figure......). If you can't understand the difference between "influence" and plain out "plagiarism", why am I wasting my time with you? I give up. Think whatever you want to think. It's a free country. Not so free in IMDB forums it seems.

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[–] d-adrian-williams 10 years ago

my english is hard to understand? funny that i actually live in england.

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[–] nunoanjos1 10 years ago

How come you live in England and your english is so poor and hard to understand? No commas, no ponctuaction, nothing. U go on and on and on and on and on and on... Perhaps you're from another country?

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[–] d-adrian-williams 10 years ago

by the way its punctuation.

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[–] nunoanjos1 10 years ago

Ok, grammar nazi. That is ironic, you correct me, when your grammar is so terrible. It's PuNcTuAtIoN not PONCtoatiun. What a serious mistake! Countries could go to war because someone online typed pOnctuation and not pUnctuation.

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[–] Cinobite17 10 years ago

If people are going to get picky, Aliens was largely based on Heinleins 1959 book Starship Troopers - as is Halo and half the space marnines *beep* you see, from the motion trackers, guns and suits to the power loader and drop ships.
Watch Starship Troopers Invasion (Anime) and you'll see just how similar Aliens is

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

It's not being picky. Go buy a brain. "Prometheus are you seeing this?" - line from Prometheus as the ship lands. Last Days on Mars copied it. As a ship lands, in TLDOM, "are you seeing this?". COME ON! What a cheap copy. Even people with half a brain will notice that and admit it.

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[–] Cinobite17 10 years ago

If people are going to get picky, Aliens was largely based on Heinleins 1959 book Starship Troopers - as is Halo and half the space marnines *beep* you see, from the motion trackers, guns and suits to the power loader and drop ships.
Watch Starship Troopers Invasion (Anime) and you'll see just how similar Aliens is

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[–] Ukiome 11 years ago

I totally agree. I find this movie adequate but sure - it has lots of holes in it. I was never convinced that Kim actually died and was very surprised as the credits started to roll. I would have thought that she would have a bigger role in the whole matter.

Not the best but I have seen a lot worse. I love this genre so I am not going to whine too much about this movie. It had better production value than a lot of its competition. Keep trying to get this right please.

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[–] Kuato_and_George 11 years ago

.....because? I don't understand how they are the same, because it's about man vs alien?

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[–] estocade 11 years ago

prometheus

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[–] dannylerch 11 years ago

I hope you're wrong but you're probably right. Don't forget the cinematography is very Alien reminiscent and the production design/art direction as well. The whole thing looks like an alien/Prometheus/The Thing hybrid film. Too many similarities to the original alien to be unique. We will see though.

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Exactly. Finally, someone with half a brain.

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[–] Tanu Tuva 11 years ago

That's a strange way to give a compliment.

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[–] Jerry-137 11 years ago

I guess you and I were the only ones to notice the irony in that reply.

Exactly. Finally, someone with half a brain.

I wonder if the poster was actually being kind or being cruel nicely. Only [s]he would know.

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

Great post, dude. Thanks for noticing my irony. I only noticed now, thanks IMDB for not letting me know about new comments. I was being kind, it was a honest compliment.

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

thanks a lot buddy

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[–] eentweedrie 11 years ago

@nunoanjos1

I'm going to watch it, just to piss you off.

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[–] chrisasiama 11 years ago

^ Exactly, it's a well known fact that movies borrow ideas and plots from other movies. It seems the troll has just learned this rather obvious fact and I can only assume he must be new to movies.

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[–] B_Lab 11 years ago

LOL

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[–] Kuato_and_George 11 years ago

Holes in helmets happened in Alien. The guy outside who was attacked and got a hole on his helmet and wanted to come back inside but someone inside the ship said don't open the door HAPPENED IN ALIEN. Exactly the same way

If this kind of stuff is the backbone of your argument, by your logic, Lethal Weapon and Die Hard are carbon copies of one another because they involve cops shooting bad guys.

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[–] StrangeSwami 11 years ago

@nunoanjos1

This is major B.S. No ORIGINALITY no NEW IDEAS, just a cheap ripoff

And Alien ripped off Planet of the Vampires, so what? Who cares? Get over it!

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

No it didn't, Alien was original that's why everybody with no brain copies it. I care about plagiarism and zombies like you without a brain make the world a worse place by not caring if people steal from other people just because they don't have a brain and are too lazy to work.

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[–] StrangeSwami 11 years ago

No it didn't

Yes, it did! It copied some plot points and visual aspects; derelict alien ship, doorways that look like vulvas, giant alien skeleton etc. It also had the distress signal! I guess you haven't seen Planet of the Vampires yet...

And I guess you forgot to take your medication...?

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Oh yeah??? Where is the derelict alien ship in Planet of Vampires? Doorways and the alien ship design in Alien was created by Giger.

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[–] StrangeSwami 11 years ago

Where is the derelict alien ship in Planet of Vampires?

It is where they find the large alien skeleton.

Doorways and the alien ship design in Alien was created by Giger.

You spotted that? Very good! Now go watch Planet of the Vampires and you will nonetheless see huge portals that also look like pussies!

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

All the 9 parts are on youtube. I don't have the patience to watch a boring old movie. But I've skipped forward here and there and I didn't see a single thing that Alien stole. Not a single scene, a single character, a single ship, a single design, a single outfit. And yes I am talking about VISUAL PROOF. Show me 1 thing, tell me the exact part, minute and second. I dare you. If you can find 1 of course. I highly doubt it. You see, as I showed before, TLDOM steals entire SCENES, characters from ALIEN, that's VISUAL AND PLAGIARISM. I'm not talking about ideas only. All you can talk about are a few vague ideas? Come on.

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[–] StrangeSwami 11 years ago

I don't have the patience to watch a boring old movie...Show me 1 thing, tell me the exact part, minute and second.

I am not about to watch the film for you, you ignoramus.
If you don't understand the concept of intellectual plagiarism, that is also not my concern. Oh, and by the way...

TLDOM steals entire SCENES, characters from ALIEN

...No it doesn't. Although I admit the trailer suggests otherwise.
And another thing...

zombies like you without a brain make the world a worse place

I do have a brain, it's just that I don't need to use it when I'm talking to you.

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

So you were talking about Planet of Vampires, a movie that you don't know and never watched? Lol.... How credible of you to use that empty argument. I win, you lose. Buh bye now. Go lie somewhere else.

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

What is wrong with you and what are you even talking about, idiot?

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[–] oilinblood 11 years ago

that would be cool... since prometheus was ****. Id be very happy for another company to steal the idea and make a proper rated R suspense thriller. Do it right or dont do it at all. Looks good. Hell i hope they made it with the thought ofit being an unofficial prequel to the alien series.

LOVE it. Maybe, as an alien fan (i could give a rats *** about the creature) i just want the good script, acting, and suspense without the idiocy. If i dont laugh at the film 10 minutes in it will already be better than Prometheus.

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[–] patryk-cichy 11 years ago

Actually, it's based on a short story "The Animators" by Sydney Bounds, first published in 1975. I had read it in Polish a few times maybe 25 years ago, and remember liking it very much back then (but I was a kid, so I don't know how good does it hold up today). As you can see, it precedes the first xenomorph movie a bit.
And I don't want to spoil anything for you, so I won't give the detalis, but the premise doesn't have anything in common with "Alien", "The Thing", of stuff like "Mission to Mars" and "Red Planet". It's an old school SF/horror hybrid alright, but different. Its author is considered an important genre writer - he was publishing constantly since 40s. The guy passed away in 2006.
I guess I should read it again. I wonder if it still works.

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[–] patches89 11 years ago

Damn a lot of hate because it looks similar to Alien...geez move on it actually looks like it could be really good but if you hate everything about it here's a hint.....DONT WATCH IT

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

No, since it's a copy without any originality it can't be good. For me only original movies are good. I don't want to watch a poor ripoff of a great movie.

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[–] Ergo_The_Magnificent 11 years ago

Even if you had a point somewhere in there, it's hard to consider your opinion having any credibility to it when all you can do is lash out at people who disagree with you. You have the mental faculties of a 5th grader when it comes to expressing yourself on these boards.

I love Alien and Aliens, but somewhere in your fanboy fervor, you completely disregard the screenwriter for Alien, Dan O'Bannon, whom by his own admission has stated he stole elements from many movies to write the script for Alien. When your done humping the 70's, watch a movie called Forbidden Planet, where O'Bannon pretty much got the core of the plot from. If you'd like other reference followed the sited sources section for Alien on the wikipedia page.

The only original thing about Alien is H.R. Giger's designs (and thankfully his original facehugger design was scrapped).

Feel free to state I'm dumb, or that was all an homage to those films (which even O'Bannon states was outright idea theft), and then everyone else on who reads this thread can see how much you fail.

You stating you only watch original movies is probably the most laughable thing I've read in years.

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

I like the way I write, if you don't, go ahead and read the Bible or Lord of the Rings and bore yourself to death, you must be a very boring human being without a life, who's a pain in the ass to everyone who surrounds you has the sad fate of living near you.

I have already replied to every point of your mental diarrhea in other posts, go read my post that says something like "AVOID AT ALL COSTS". As I said, TLDOM rips off dozens of scenes from Alien. That's a direct ripoff. What O'Bannon did is take inspiration, be influenced by ideas, it's not the same thing at all. If you can't see that then yes you are dumb.

As you said, O'Bannon may have took the core of the plot from Forbidden Planet but everything in Alien is different. The monster, the story, the scene, the characters. this is i-n-s-p-i-r-a-t-i-o-n. Do I have to spell it out for you? Do you not get it yet??? What TLDOM does it DIRECT PLAGIARISM, just watch the trailer. If you don't get it you don't have a brain, and I'm not gonna waste my time with dumb people who don't have a brain.

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[–] StrangeSwami 11 years ago

I'm not gonna waste my time with dumb people who don't have a brain

Then you should put yourself on "Ignore"

I like feeding trolls. It gives me such a sense of superiority to see them so dependent upon my attention!

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[–] chuggliams 10 years ago

"Then you should put yourself on 'ignore'."
Touch! That person does seem to be deliberately trying to wind people up, despite the fact that someone else pointed out that the film is based on a novel called 'Animators' which was written in 1975!

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[–] chuggliams 10 years ago

I meant touché...

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

You have the mental faculties of a 5th grader

I've just re-read your post, lol. It's funny how you accuse me of insulting people but you do just the same lol. Way to go, perfect person who acts like you never insulted anyone in your life but you actually do insult people like you just proved with your comment.

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[–] xystophoros 9 years ago

You're carrying on an argument you started more than two years ago, and flinging insults like a bored chimpanzee flinging feces. Seriously, go back and reread your comments and ask yourself if this is how you want to behave.

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

1) no I won't reread anything
2) yes this is how I want to behave
3) "bored chimpazee flinging feces" - Look at your insult. Seriously, reread your comment and ask yourself if this is how you want to behave.

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

1) no I won't reread anything
2) yes this is how I want to behave
3) "bored chimpazee flinging feces" - Look at your insult. Seriously, reread your comment and ask yourself if this is how you want to behave.

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[–] d-adrian-williams 9 years ago

grammar lessons from someone who cant spell "punctuation".....classic

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[–] Holy-Fire 11 years ago

Alien wasn't even that good. Alien vs Predator is way better

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Lol whatever you say troll

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[–] mlauzon 9 years ago

Seriously, you're calling him/her a troll?

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

Whoever says AvP is better than Alien can only be trolling. No one can be that dumb.

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[–] d-adrian-williams 9 years ago

you can get your point across without resorting to call people unintelligent, nice to know its not just me you have a stick up your ass with.

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[–] aefertino 11 years ago

I'm afraid I have to agree with the OP that this particular film's Trailer has many traits of Alien (1979) and, of course, It! The Terror from Outer Space which one can view here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051786/?ref_=sr_1 (1958). Which predates even the short story. That is to say the final film may not be paid in full with its advertising, much as Pacific Rim was not correctly sold either.

Both TLDOM's Trailer and Alien concern: a small isolated crew on a foreign planet, a secret mission there, a dangerous alien contagion that stows away on board, specifically by deliberately letting it in due to its host, picks off crew members one by one, blowing something(one) out of an airlock, specifically restraining the contagion from spreading to Earth; and the events all take place in the time frame of a concluding mission.

All of this considered, dear IMDb readers, it's perfectly possible this will end up a brilliant homage to Alien, which I am almost positive we are all fans of here. Regardless, without having seen the film, it is impossible to judge--we can only speculate.

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[–] aefertino 11 years ago

I'm afraid I have to agree with the OP that this particular film's Trailer has many traits of Alien (1979) and, of course, It! The Terror from Beyond Space which one can view here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051786/?ref_=sr_1 (1958). Which predates even the short story. That is to say the final film may not be paid in full with its advertising, much as Pacific Rim was not correctly sold either.

Both TLDOM's Trailer and Alien concern: a small isolated crew on a foreign planet, a secret mission there, a dangerous alien contagion that stows away on board, specifically by deliberately letting it in due to its host, picks off crew members one by one, blowing something(one) out of an airlock, specifically restraining the contagion from spreading to Earth; and the events all take place in the time frame of a concluding mission.

All of this considered, dear IMDb readers, it's perfectly possible this will end up a brilliant homage to Alien, which I am almost positive we are all fans of here. Regardless, without having seen the film, it is impossible to judge--we can only speculate.

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

There is a HUGE difference between HOMAGE and PLAGIARISM, RIPOFF, STEALING IDEAS.

If this movie stole so many scenes and ideas from Alien, and seems like it really did, I find nothing noble, in stealing ideas. No honor, no merit. Maybe they think the 70's are long gone and nobody saw Alien so they want to make it look like the brilliant ideas are theirs. So they think they can fool a lot of people while not having a hard time to create their own ideas. Actually I hate it when that happens.

Go read this article (there are much more):

http://twitchfilm.com/2013/05/cannes-2013-review-last-days-on-mars.html

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[–] mountaindewslave 11 years ago

oh 100% Alien ripoff. the thing is, whether or not Alien itself was based on another STORY, this trailer actually had very very similar scenes. Alien didn't rip off SCENES and literal moments from something else and this appears that it does.

I mean come on. couple of explorers come across some kind of alien thing investigating outside of their ship on other planet, fall down (literally fell down in Alien too), have their helmets broken through (eerily looks the same as in Alien), get back into the ship when a higher command officer says not to let them in, and then things go array from there

obviously it seems more like the people are being infected or possessed or something BUT still the copying of scenes and set design is kind of insulting. and what's worse is it doesn't even look as good :O

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Right on. Finally someone with a brain commenting on this board.

Your description was accurate, but you forgot that in this movie, after the infected astronaut comes on board and all hell breaks lose, the "monster" or zombie or infected human (which is an alien as well), starts to kill the other crew members one by one. Now where have you seen this before? Oh, that's right, IN ALIEN!!! This is B.S.

You bring up an interesting question, what if Alien is based on another story? Well, I'm not sure, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But even if it is, it's still original, because it was the first movie to bring to life this kind of story.

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[–] svalinanikola 11 years ago

You bring up an interesting question, what if Alien is based on another story? Well, I'm not sure, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But even if it is, it's still original, because it was the first movie to bring to life this kind of story.

Actually, Alien was called a rip-off (and some people still call it) of "It! The Terror From Beyond Space"

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

http://www.united-academics.org/magazine/general/movie-review-the-inspiration-to-the-original-alien-it-the-terror-from-beyond-space-1958/

"‘It! The Terror from Beyond Space’ doesn’t really stand the test of time, neither is a particularly remarkable film, but it is certainly the inspiration, along with the much superior ‘Forbidden Planet’ and ‘The Thing from Another World’, for Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien’."

As you can see, Alien probably took inspiration from It, Forbidden Planet, The Thing, along with other movies and books. So? The only thing in common between Alien and It is, as you said, the monster hiding inside their ship and starts to kill them one by one. The same happens in 1000 other movies. Alien does not copy entire scenes from "It", or ideas, or characters.

In "It", the main character is arrested by the rescuers. Does something like this happen in Alien? NO! The monster in "It" is slow, big, and looks like a big ape. In Alien the monster is insectoid, small, slippery and fast. Also I bet the monster from "It" doesn't come from eggs and there are no facehuggers in that movie.

TLDOM on the other hand, copies a lot of scenes directly from Alien that's why it is a ripoff. Go watch Alien, you don't know what you are talking about.

http://twitchfilm.com/2013/05/cannes-2013-review-last-days-on-mars.html

"While it rips off Alien in spades, even having the balls to include a scene that finds a character crawling through a small tunnel to escape,"

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[–] xavlexav 11 years ago

What is amazing is there's even a debate about it.
Of course it's a total alien ripoff : the plot, the female character, the suits, the strobes, the ship design, the broken helmet, the way the second team discovers the alien in a basement, that's just ridiculous...
And what's really frightening in this movie is that nobody gives a *beep* anymore about plagiarism.
Maybe because the movies today are made for the younger generation ( like music has become) and they know nothing about classic movies...

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

I agree with you 100%. A lot of people on this board don't have a brain. I think lame directors like the one who directed this cheap imitation try to fool younger folks who don't know Alien into thinking this movie is original. But I hope people like you and I can tell the world the truth, open their eyes. Always better to watch the original thing. Plagiarism is for fake, loser, scumbag directors and fake dumb viewers.

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[–] garrettlowe 11 years ago

Just to be sure I understand what you're saying - you think Alien is a rip off of Plan 9 from Outer Space, an alien stole your brain but not the rip off alien from Alien and finally,The Last Days on Mars is the most original movie you haven't seen because somebody ripped off the trailer from Prometheus. That's what you're saying right? RIGHT?

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Were you trying to be funny with your mental diarrhea? Cuz it's not funny.

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[–] wardogz-uk 11 years ago

I thought it was funny :)

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

cuz ur an idiot with no brain

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[–] muggi_san2002 11 years ago

Damn it, that was some fun, reading your posts nunoanus1. Gonna enjoy watching the movie even more now :-)

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[–] droppit 11 years ago

I thought it was funny.

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[–] wtdk123 11 years ago

So I take it you've seen the entire movie and not just the trailer?

If anything this film resembles the plot for the Dr. Who episode "Waters of Mars".

It's not an "Alien" rip-off (anymore than "Alien" was a rip off of "Forbidden Planet" or "It! The Terror Beyond Space".

I have seen the entire movie and, beyond superificial similiarities, it's nothing like "Alien".

The basic plot and plot device isn't uncommon--there are 36 dramatic situations always have been, always will be and this is a variation on one of those 36 dramatic situations.

There's no alien egg implanted in someone, there's no chest burster, there's no chase on a ship (yes, it's on the planet surface but that chase has to happen somewhere doesn't it?

There's a rescue mission (actualy the ship that brought them)to bring them back.

This is "28 Hours Later" or "Night of the Living Dead" on Mars.

This is no more an "Alien" rip off than "Alien" was a rip off of "The Thing From Another World" (you know, "Alien" set in a remote arctic base). It's not just about the inspiration, it's what you do with it.

I'd also note that A. E. Vogt (a well known science fiction author)thought about suing the producers and writer (Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shushett got full credit but the script went through a lot of rewrites by Walter Hill and David Giler as well although O'Bannon's basic core idea is still there)since the ideas in "Alien" resemble his novel The Voyage of the Space Beagle.

That's not in "Alien".

The bottom line here is that this is a film that was certainly inspired by "Alien" to one degree or another just like lots of thrillers.

There are plenty of "Alien" rip offs out there. This isn't one of them.

Now they may be trying to sell it like "Alien" but that's the marketing for the film.

There's no Ripley (and in this there's a major character that suffers begins suffering from claustrophobia complicating their mission), there's no face hugger, there's no "creature" on a "ship" hiding and then making them into eggs for further aliens.

Is it the most original movie? Nope. It's still suspenful and pretty well made.

-"Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense." -Steve Landesberg

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[–] nunoanjos1 11 years ago

Go read this article. Its author says this is an Alien ripoff as well and talks about a few scenes that were stolen.

http://twitchfilm.com/2013/05/cannes-2013-review-last-days-on-mars.html

Is the author and me both crazy? Or are we both just more intelligent than you? Either you don't have a brain or you worked for the movie, or both.

I'm not gonna repeat myself over and over again, go read my other posts to see what I've already said about this subject. As I said before the monster in Forbidden Planet has nothing to do with the monster in Alien. It is slow, big, looks like a big ape. The monster in Alien is insectoid, small and fast. Also the monster in Forbidden Planet doesn't reproduce through eggs. There are so many differences.

Alien as a movie was original because it had very original scenes, situations. Sure, Alien writers took inspiration from previous sci-fi tales and old movies but THEY DID NOT STEAL ENTIRE SCENES like TLDOM steals from Alien. Why do you think so many movies ripoff Alien? Because Alien was so original and great. You see people classifying movies as Alien ripoff all the time. You don't see them talking about The Thing ripoffs.

There is a line between inspiration and plagiarism. If you are too blind to see it I'm not going to waste more time with you since you are dumb and a lost case. TLDOM is a COMPLETE RIPOFF of Alien. It's not about inspiration, they don't just steal ideas, they STEAL entire scenes. When I first watched the TLDOM trailer, I saw Ripley. Why do you think that happened? Because they tried to copy, clone Ripley 100%. The same outfit, the same clothes, the same style, the same personality, the same heroism, the same problems, the same clautrophobia, the same cafeteria crew meeting, the same sets, the same kind of walls, the same ship interior. They were copying Ripley which is very low. How can you say Ripley is not in this movie?

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[–] wtdk123 11 years ago

..and yet you didn't answer the question. Did you see it? I wouldn't doubt that the film was inspired by "Alien" and "The Thing" but the source material predates both films. No, I don't work for the company but I also don't go around suggesting something is a rip off based on the evidence of a trailer.

I read all your posts and just disagree with you.

I would never suggest that the film wasn't influenced by what came before. "Alien" borrowed left and right from a variety of sources but what made the film I quite was the use of a strong woman lead, the production design and the shooting of the film. Essentially what could have been just another "B" movie was elevated due to the talent I voiced to something "new".

There are 36 dramatic situations and only so many ways to resolve a scene. Those limitations influence everything out there.

I'm not going to say that "Mars" is the most original film out there but it is entertaining for what it is and comparing a contagion or zombie film to "Alien" only highlights that "Alien" borrowed just as liberally as any other film director does out there.

Once again throwing out there the smug "I'm more intelligent than you therefore I'm right" reeks of desperation. It's your OPINION that this is a rip off of "Alien". It's influenced, yes, just as"Alien" was influenced by other iconic films that came before. If push came to shove I find more in common between "28 Days Later" and "Sunshine" than "Alien" where there is a single predatory creature picking off members of the crew rather than infecting each and making them into something akin to zombies.

You could argue more readily this is "Night of the Living Dead" on another planet.

Having a short and dark haired woman among the crew doesn't make her Ripley(and particularly since--Spoilers-- she doesn't survive past the first hour).

"mars" isn't a great film but its entertaining for what it is. It's not groundbreaking in terms of production design, style and it lacks Ridley Scott's flair (and Walter Hill's way with dialog), O'Bannon's imaginative life cycle for the creature but it is entertaining for what it is.

See the film (not just the trailer) and then get back to me about how this rips off "Alien".
-"Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense." -Steve Landesberg

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

..and yet you didn't answer the question. Did you see it?

Yes, are you happy now? I've watched TLDOM, wasting a few hours of my life with poor quality plagiarism, A.K.A. trash.

I don't agree with you at all, but as you touched some valid arguments there, and you were polite, not just a troll trying to insult me for no reason, I think you deserve a reply from me.

where there is a single predatory creature picking off members of the crew rather than infecting each and making them into something akin to zombies.

You have just described Alien in the 2 situations. "Infecting" - Yup, that's Alien. In Alien, the crew members get infected by the Alien thing that attaches itself to their face and later gestates into a chestbuster that comes out of their chest. I would call that infection, like you said. It's the same thing. Call it infection, abduction, attack, rape, whatever you want to call it. Here we are talking about one of the 1000 things TLDOM copied from the Alien and Prometheus franchises.

Having a short and dark haired woman among the crew doesn't make her Ripley(and particularly since--Spoilers-- she doesn't survive past the first hour).

It's not only that. It's her suit, her rebellious attitudes, her voice, everything about her. If you don't believe me, read other intelligent people on this thread who think the same I do, that she is a ripoff of Ripley.

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[–] wtdk123 11 years ago

Read the article. Disagree although he is right that it has more in common with Carpenter's "Ghosts of Mars".

You've taken most of your talking points from the article and there are some mistakes.the first character killed is decidedly not black (she's Indian and if they can't such as all detail right it calls into question the rest of his points--which, by the way, the first victim of the creature wasn't black either in "Alien").

The tunnel scene is borrowed not from "Alien" but "Aliens" as in the first film Dallas goes into the air shafts to flush the creature out while in"Aliens" Bishop was going into the tube to access the machinery to land one of the transports).

I'm not arguing that Mars is a great film but its largely competent for a first time effort with some nice production design and good performances.
Read the article. Disagree with it. Comparing it to "Alien" is just flat out lazy
-"Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense." -Steve Landesberg

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

You've taken most of your talking points from the article

That's wrong. I think for myself. I had my opinion before I read the article. I was just happy that I found an article that happens to agree with me, so I see other intelligent people out there can also see this is a complete Alien ripoff, not just me.

The tunnel scene is borrowed not from "Alien" but "Aliens" as in the first film Dallas goes into the air shafts to flush the creature out while in"Aliens" Bishop was going into the tube to access the machinery to land one of the transports).

There you go, see you agreeing with me that this is a ripoff? Lol. "borrowed" or copied or plagiarized, call it whatever you want to call, at the end of the day it's the same thing, plain and simple PLAGIARISM.

I'm not arguing that Mars is a great film but its largely competent for a first time effort with some nice production design and good performances.

I don't agree. It's not competent, it's very poor in every way, terrible performances (we can't understand what they mumble 75% of the time, they are all a$$holes with no soul and no heart so we don't care about them, etc.), production is horrible, it doesn't look like Mars, it looks like mountains and beaches on Earth, by the way they jump, gravitiy is the same as here, cheap special effects, everything is so bad.

Comparing it to "Alien" is just flat out lazy

Now now, I didn't insult you. If you start to insult me, I will do the same to you. You are the lazy one, not me. If I was lazy I wouldn't reply to you with big comments, apreciate that.

You can find on this thread other intelligent people who agree with me.

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[–] d-adrian-williams 9 years ago

This guys acting like he wrote the original aliens and is planning to sue! why dont you, if its such a rip off theres measures in place to legally sue! but they wont be doing that because THIS is its own movie.

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[–] StrangeSwami 11 years ago

the same kind of walls

It's true... walls in space can get kind of samey! Not to mention the corridors...
It's almost as if IKEA never existed!

You don't see them talking about The Thing ripoffs

(Grammar aside) Oh yes you do...!

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[–] StrangeSwami 11 years ago

Is the author and me both crazy?

I think you may have something there...!

I'm not gonna repeat myself over and over again

But you do! And probably will...

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[–] paulruth 11 years ago

All I can say is please do a little more research, or actually try watching the movie before making all these false arguments. You clearly know nothing about 1:- "Alien" and 2:- "TLDOM"

Also considering the movies are of the same genre, there will always be similarities just like all other genres, GET ME.

I cant really be arsed to waste more time with you, but I just had to say something as reading this thread, and your comments just wasted 20 minutes of my life I can never get back. SHAME ON YOU.........

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

Ok, I'm not wasting much time with you. You obviously don't own a brain. If you don't like me, I suggest you read comments on this thread by other people who agree 100% with me, you see, they are intelligent and smart, unlike you.

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[–] wtdk123 11 years ago

Before "Alien" we also saw a similiar plot in the Doctor Who episode "The Ark in Space", elements were in "Planet of the Vampires",
"The Quatermass Experiment" among others.

Again, it's not how "original" the idea is by itself but what you do with the idea that makes the film memorable.

Now, because you dislike the film and feel it's a complete rip off you insult the intelligence of others because you disagree. It's fine to disagree but to insult someone else because they disagree with you or don't see the same connections is unnecessary and low.

-"Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense." -Steve Landesberg

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[–] nunoanjos1 9 years ago

It's fine to disagree but to insult someone else because they disagree with you or don't see the same connections is unnecessary and low.

You do the same you accused me of... Lol.. You insulted me, what, by your definition, is unnecessary and low... Take a look:

Comparing it to "Alien" is just flat out lazy

Before "Alien" we also saw a similiar plot in the Doctor Who episode "The Ark in Space", elements were in "Planet of the Vampires",
"The Quatermass Experiment" among others.

I've already discussed vastly and actually watched Planet of the Vampires to be better informed and debate, you can read all of it on other messages on this thread. No point in repeating all I wrote all over again. It has nothing similar to Alien. Not 1 scene, not 1 character, not 1 idea, absolutly nothing.

Again, it's not how "original" the idea is by itself but what you do with the idea that makes the film memorable.

Blah blah blah let me explain again. A movie is either orginal or plagiarism. Alien is original. TLDOM is plagiarism, an Alien ripoff. I rest my case. If you don't undertand my good english, I give up on you. You will never get it.