...your significant other is a mid black chick who appreciates nothing you do and just nags you all the time.
Paul Atreides is the Bill Burr of space messiahs.
Zendaya is not attractive enough for this role
shareThere's a reason Villeneuve's Dune movies are falling flat. You can't insert post-modernism (particularly embodied in a bad actress like Zendaya) into a story that has traditionalist values and make it work. You get a character that contradicts herself at every turn. Half the time she can't stand Paul, and half the time she forces herself to be with him because the script demands it, but frankly, Zendaya doesn't look like she wants to be there at all unless she's laughing at Timothy Chalamet's expense or pretending to be a desert warrior.
shareChalamer and Zendaya may have the absolute least chemistry than any other couple in any movie I can remember
shareIt has a 8.8 rating at IMDB, and a 95% audience rating on RT. The Movie is most likely going to make around $700 million. They made it it work I think.
shareI don't listen to ratings on those two websites. They can easily be manipulated, whether it be by the website, the movie studio, or people who just want to make a statement.
shareYeah ok. You may not want to admit it, but the film is a success all the way around. So was the first film.
shareIf you want to know just how false those ratings are, all you need to do is read up on the dirty tricks Disney did to inflate Captain Marvel's numbers, buying tickets to "fill up" empty theaters and bragging about "packed theaters," getting Rotten Tomatoes to turn off all comments for a few days, and lying about all of it. Amazon did something similar with negative comments on their horrible "Rings of Power" show when it debuted, a show so bad that only 30% of the people who watched it actually finished the season. Or how about all the bot accounts on social media that are bought from Chinese companies to boost ratings numbers on movies from various movie sites?
A success, huh? Chances are, Dune fans will still be watching the '84 film and maybe the 2000 miniseries years from now, and just barely taking note of the Villeneuve films less than 5 years after they hit theaters. You take a good, long, hard look at those earnings, because that is all those movies will ever earn, just like with the Disney Star Wars shit trilogy. People will have forgotten about these films in even less time than they did the sequel trilogy. That's the kind of staying power I see coming from these films. They will be flashes in the pan that only got the attention they did because there was almost no competition out there, similar to why "The Shape of Water" got the Oscar for Best Film in 2017: every other candidate was shit.
Look, if you want to be delusional and think Dune fans will be watching the '84 film and not Villeneuve's Dune years from now, that is your prerogative. The truth is, Dune '84 was a colossal flop and the film was so bad that the director himself disowned it. But go ahead and dream your dream.
shareI'm not the one stupid enough to believe the hype these crappy remake films get on the internet. Do you honestly think a strong, deeply beloved franchise is ever gonna grow out of these crap films? That kids will be buying toys and merchandise, and people will flock to the theaters to watch each one? That people will be integrating quotes from this film into everyday talk? That conventions will have tons of people cosplaying the characters? That they will be parodying parts of these movies into comedies and every day tv?
Who's the real delusional one here?
Much as I'd love to show how much I care about what David Lynch thinks, all the fucks I had to give about his opinion were used up in the past 7 years after watching no less than 5 movie/tv studios commit social suicide by ripping the hearts out of their own franchises and getting irrationally mad when their customers hated the new shit products they tried to sell later on.
And by the way, David Lynch is hardly the first guy to disown his own film. George Lucas, for example, never planned on having Star Wars take over his life the way it did. He's actually shown regret over the years, because he never originally had intended to start a franchise with his 1977 film. He had actually been hoping to work on something entirely different before the popularity of his first movie blew up. George R.R. Martin doesn't give a shit about his own GOT series, and is more than happy to rake in the dough while hardly writing anything for his own books before he croaks. Stephen King has disowned several of his stories, due to either causing trouble with some of them, or being angry over the misinterpretation Hollywood did when translating his work. And don't get me started on the number of book authors that got shafted when they foolishly let various movie studios do whatever the hell they wanted with the novels they signed over, and turned out a terrible product, leading to those authors disowning those films in outrage.
Bottom line, Villeneuve's movies are a terrible interpretation of "Dune" and will be forgotten as quickly as the "Children of Dune" miniseries was. People years from now will write them off as just another casualty of the Woke Era in Hollywood, and hopefully someone will have come along with a better interpretation by then.
Now, are you done being owned, or shall we go around again? I can do this all day.
You can dream all day. I believe that. That doesn't change the fact that Dune '84 was a terrible film, critically, commercially, anyway you look at it.
shareIt's still a cult classic, people still use it when referencing Dune in general, and not only did you not answer my questions, you have confirmed that you are defeated in this argument. Go off, lick your wounds, and shut the hell up. This battle is over with. Bye.
shareTrump fans are reality deniers!
shareSatan2016, the Trump-bashing board is over here: https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics
And here: https://moviechat.org/nm0874339/Donald-Trump
Please dump on his voters in those arenas, not here.
No wonder he replaced her first chance he got.
sharePaul didn't replace her.
In the original novel (and in two different film adaptations) as the son of a Duke, he couldn't afford to marry Chani because he needed to be available to marry should he need to make a political alliance of any kind. Lady Jessica even advised him not to marry any of the Fremen girls he became involved with, for political reasons. Paul only married Princess Irulan so that his seizing of the galactic throne would be made more legitimate from marrying into the Corrino family, which had been ruling the Known Universe for centuries. It was a political marriage ONLY. Chani was always going to be his true love and more of a "wife" to him than Irulan ever was. Irulan was basically trapped in a loveless, sexless marriage, and had nothing better to do than to write books for the rest of her life. I suspect Paul only slept with her once to consummate the marriage, so she couldn't use his lack of intimacy as an excuse for a divorce (though how you divorce a guy who owns the courts in the Known Universe, I don't know).
Zendaya's Chani acts completely irrational, getting angry and jealous, and doesn't seem to know or trust the same guy she'd been sleeping with at all. The book Chani knew she might end up a consort to Paul rather than a wife. She wasn't happy about it, but she didn't throw a tantrum like a bratty little girl and run off on a sandworm when she heard of the marriage like Zendaya did.
He was basically omniscient god that could see the future. He could do whatever the fuck he wanted at that point.
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