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The men were great in this, but Winona Ryder was the stand out


Something very special about her performance here. I'm glad to see her back and it's interesting to see how she's matured as an actress. She was very convincing and perfect vulnerable as his wife. Hopefully the critics will agree and see this too. I'm rooting for her at next years big award ceremonies.

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winona ryder will win an academy award for the iceman.

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winona ryder will win an oscar for iceman.

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I haven't seen the movie yet, but I am so glad that she is back.

For me she was a scene stealer in Black Swan. She was just fantastic! I wish there were more scenes with her in there.


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I agree 100% with the op, Winona's performance is awards worthy. My only concern is bad timing: not many great films released in the first half of the year get the recognition they deserve...

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I totally agree about Winona. It was great to see her back on the screen and she did an incredible job of playing Deborah Kuklinski. I know Hollywood can do all kinds of makeup tricks but I thought she looked absolutely fantastic. I hope this means we will start seeing her more often. She can still play the "innocent" and young looking character as well as the "older" and more dramatic type of character. She looked great and was fantastic in Iceman.

It was also nice to see her in Black Swan.

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This movie never saw that wide of a release though and the question would be if the film distributor would put money into award campaigning for the film at all, or Ryder.

Unfortunately, I don't think it will. Perhaps she could get an Independent Spirit nod? Anything more would require heavy campaigning by the distributor.

Let it slide, overhead...

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mighty aphrodite limited 200+ pollock limited 200+

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mighty aphrodite limited 200+ pollock limited 200+


Mighty Aphrodite: 26 Million dollar gross (on 15 million dollar budget), a Woody Allen film, and distributed by Miramax (which has distributed many Oscar winning films).

Pollock: Directorial debut by respected actor Ed Harris, in his prime, distributed by Sony Pictures Classics (which again has distributed many Oscar winning films), 8.5 million dollar gross on 6 million dollar budget. Also about a respected artist.

The Iceman: Directed by the man of the straight to DVD film Danika and little known RX, grossed 1.9 million dollars on a 10 million dollar budget, distributed my Millennium Films which has distributed mostly action films and the company does not have an Oscar to its name. About a serial killer.

Bottom line is that money comes into Oscar nominations and it's the film distributor that pays money to run campaigns for actors, films, and filmmakers. The two films you mentioned, while having a limited release, grossed more than it's film budget and were distributed by companies that run Oscar campaigns. That is not the case with The Iceman.

Trust me, I'd love for Winona Ryder to get an Oscar nomination. I think it's be a great comeback. But, it'd take a miracle for it to happen. Unless she wants to run her own campaign and send out screeners so people will actually watch her film, then it's just not going to happen.

Let it slide, overhead...

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there is a lot of oscar buzz for michael shannons performance in iceman. most of the reviews are saying that he will get an oscar nod for it. no way they could ignore all of these great reviews and oscar buzz. those same reviews say winona was great in it too.

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Great reviews don't cut it. It will all come down to whether or not the studio sends out screeners for the film. If they do, then there's definitely a chance, if not there's just no way.

Oscar voters have so many films to see in a given year, that they have to be sent screeners to even consider a film. They're not going to go out and watch a film on their own and it's clear that not many people saw The Iceman based on its gross.

Ann Dowd got Oscar buzz for the Indie film Compliance last year. Good reviews for her performance and she was considered a darkhorse Oscar contender. However, the film distributor said it would not send out screeners and put any money into an Oscar campaign and Ann Dowd didn't receive a Golden Globe nod, a SAG nod, or an Oscar nod...despite winning many critics awards.

It's all about campaigning. Good reviews will help if it's campaigned, but it won't clinch and Oscar nod.

Let it slide, overhead...

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nicole kidman was nominated for a golden globe for paperboy also a millenium film. it made less money than iceman and came out in less theaters than iceman. winona ryder will win an oscar for iceman. if they screened paperboy they will definitely screen iceman.

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haha, if she wins I will eat the shoe of an old German guy. The movie is weak, her role is weak, and she was weakly directed. Oh, wait that is stereotypical Oscar bait, so maybe you're right. I think it would be better though if she awarded the Winona Ryder Trophy the actress she liked best.

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I disagree, she was awful. It's funny how she forced herself to be all emotional.

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She had a couple of good moments but overall the movie was less than I expected. It was missing something.

I still have to mull it over, but maybe Chris Evans was the stand out here. Shannon is always solid.

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Yeah she was awful. Not the worst acting i've seen. but definitely not stand out. and for one of the first times I actually thought Ray Liotta was terrible. I hated him in this movie,he wasn't very convincing at all. I felt he was a bit miscast. Michael Shannon was perfect though, although the movie overall was a big let down,his acting was perfect. That whole freakout he does in that one scene where he breaks dishes...That was fu cking excellent.

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... and for one of the first times I actually thought Ray Liotta was terrible.


Hmmm, he was in POWDER BLUE with Jessica Biel right? I haven't seen THE ICEMAN yet, but have you seen POWDER BLUE? I am wondering how you would regard that performance...

I think he was good in POWDER BLUE, after a couple viewings, and watching the special features to figure out what all was going on in the movie. Once I did that, the movie made a LOT more sense.
(Only LOOPER has come anywhere close to being as confusing, without viewing the special features and deleted scenes that is.)

As far as the Ryder performances I have seen in the past, she has always been pretty restrained in showing emotions. One of the first movies in particular was BEETLEJUICE where she was very well suited to play her "Goth" character, and she wasn't even that emotional at the happy ending of the movie when everyone was dancing... In that case, it fit her character.

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*beep* you knish

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*beep* you xlos

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