Really? THIS is the big new Cult Comedy? - Tucker and Dale vs Evil (2010) Discussion

[–] Sk8rguy6385 11 years ago

Your entire post boils down to the last sentence.

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[–] Timberwolf0530 11 years ago

I got the distinct impression while watching this film that it was a parody of cheesey horror movies. Thus, the cliche'd deaths.

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[–] trcrock 11 years ago

Yea, I know that's what it was trying to be. It fails, though, when you see the jokes coming way before they happen. They didn't need to show the gigantic beehive in the stump of a tree just before Alan Tudyk cuts into it with a chainsaw, that ruins the surprise and fun of when the bees come out and attack him. That's what I mean by my post.

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[–] icechalkhands 11 years ago

I didn't laugh at alot of the obvious jokes, but the more subtle one's. Like in the beginning when Tucker and Dale are in the pick up, after the officer leaves them tucker say's "You know he was just jealous because he could not afford his own vacation home". It was the little stuff like that which made me laugh.

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[–] Ssertorivs 11 years ago

Yeah, the movie did have a very promising start - the subtle humor, the decent acting by the 2 lead 'hillbillies'.

Then it becomes a standard American farce. I never could understand why people liked this kind of kindergarten humor, and the terrible actors who had made a career as TV/cinema buffoons. So many movies give me the feeling that the creators really had something to tell us, and that they had kinda started telling their story, in the movie, but then big money comes and forces it into one of 3-4 molds they have lying around in their studios - predictable and infinitely reused plots, that please the most people, predictable... all the same old drivel.

"Little people, hitting each other"

To quote a fellow IMDB poster: the fact that this film has garnered so many rave reviews speaks to the intellectual stagnation of our society.

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[–] drbrenn14 10 years ago

It was a Canadian film. Intellectual stagnation.

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[–] Ssertorivs 10 years ago

Seriously, you brought me out of hibernation just to say this?

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[–] james-mac 10 years ago

Elaborate. Please.

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[–] e25171971 9 years ago

It was a Canadian film. That is to say a film made in Canada. By Canadians.
I don't--I don't see how that could be made more elaborate.

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[–] Sidewindr 9 years ago

I didn't laugh at alot of the obvious jokes, but the more subtle one's. Like in the beginning when Tucker and Dale are in the pick up, after the officer leaves them tucker say's "You know he was just jealous because he could not afford his own vacation home". It was the little stuff like that which made me laugh.

The subtle jokes are what makes this such comedy gold! :D .. eg. When they cut off Tuckers fingers and when Dale sees them he exclaims "They cut off his bowlin' fingers!" hahaha :D There are many many more like this throughout the movie that had me in stitches.

And, yes you could see it coming when the cop got the beam with the nails in the head, but the big laughs came from Dale's reactions to it.. "You okay? Aah! What's going on? How's he even walking right now, Tuck? He looks like he's gonna walk it off. He's gonna be fine."

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[–] trixietrx 11 years ago

I disagree, only because the acting was so good. I had fun knowing what was coming only because it was executed so well, and usually had some sort of a twist (ie, Are you okay?) that I wasn't expecting. So I double laughed.

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[–] rzeznik1085 11 years ago

The joke here wasn't that he cut into a beehive, but that the college kids thought he was trying to kill them rather than just freaking out over bees. Therefore, it had to be well established that he was afraid himself and not after them.

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[–] godzillaprime 11 years ago

If that had happened you'd be whining about why were there suddenly bees attacking out of nowhere.

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[–] benmasta 11 years ago

lol wow you are just determined to hate this movie obviously.

i guess ur one of the cool ppl that is more "advanced" than everyone else and so you dont see this as a comedy because the jokes are so obvious.

the beehive is a dumb example if you ask me. I saw the whole joke comin a mile away when i only saw the chainsaw.

Even the woodchipper was obvious.

The whole point is the aftermath and what dale and tucker are gonna do/feel after the deaths happen. Thats the "punchline" and the part that we are waiting for. We know that they arent killers, and the story requires them to be truly oblivious to whats happening and then create their own warped explanation.

The comedy is not in the jokes its in the reactions to the situations. Its all so ridiculous but i believe its actually possible. Its all mainly happening because the leader of the kids is some dramatic retard psycho and the kids played into it. They are all blazed too.

i thought it as a great idea and done pretty hilariously.

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[–] alucardvenom 10 years ago

the beehive is a dumb example if you ask me. I saw the whole joke comin a mile away when i only saw the chainsaw.

I was thinking the same. I simply knew they were gonna poke fun at TCM as soon as I've seen chainsaw.

Even the woodchipper was obvious.

Which was actually funny because you knew it was coming, much like the chainsaw scene.

The whole point is the aftermath and what dale and tucker are gonna do/feel after the deaths happen. Thats the "punchline" and the part that we are waiting for. We know that they arent killers, and the story requires them to be truly oblivious to whats happening and then create their own warped explanation.

Exactly. Tucker's explanation of "suicide cult" was rather funny because much like Dale, he was so sure of what's going on while being completely oblivious, both of them. Dale was pretty sure they were after Alison, while Tucker was pretty sure it was all just a "Suicide cult".

The comedy is not in the jokes its in the reactions to the situations. Its all so ridiculous but i believe its actually possible. Its all mainly happening because the leader of the kids is some dramatic retard psycho and the kids played into it. They are all blazed too.

i thought it as a great idea and done pretty hilariously.

Agree.

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[–] ShiftyThePirate 10 years ago

You...you failed. Horribly. Please try to criticize when you actually have the ability to do so.

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[–] evilromero 9 years ago

You can see the "jokes" coming from a mile away? God, you're one of those. That criticism doesn't hold up to scrutiny since it would render even your favorite comedies as problematic due to repeated viewings. We'll just chalk this up to you hating stuff that other people like, which is about as strong an argument as you demonstrated here.

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[–] Geeky Randy 9 years ago

It fails, though, when you see the jokes coming way before they happen.

This would be true if its cult status was exclusively attributed to jokes. The reason this was so well-received was because of the likability of the two titular characters. While the jokes may have been predictable, the concept of well-meaning hillbillies is unique, funny and even strangely sweet… and that's the overriding factor. That and the above-par makeup, SFX and visual-effects for a parody-comedy.

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[–] FaithNoTool 11 years ago

Anybody who doesn't like this film should be placed on the sex offender's register with immediate effect.

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[–] trcrock 11 years ago

I'm sorry, what? That's flat out gross and sick. I don't like movies like TED or Bridesmaids along with this, and when I find out of people who do, I say that's fine, good for you, blablabla. I don't verbally attack them for liking or disliking a movie I have the opposite feeling about. And so I'll say to you, if you liked this Larry the Cable Guy/Jeff Foxworthy project reject, good for you. Watch it, enjoy it, and seriously keep your immature comments to yourself, thanks...

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[–] ghost_man_7 11 years ago

Holy *beep* when did the internet become so serious? He was obviously joking, in a way that you should expect after spending any time on any internet forum site.

..either that, or I've been spending way too much time on Reddit, but I refuse to believe that the rest of the internet can't realize sarcasm and facetiousness.

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[–] agitatedsquirrel 11 years ago

I should have known that when a guy like me talked to a girl like you, someone was gonna die...

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[–] dpostmart 11 years ago

That is the best line of the film, in my opinion all it needs to validate it as a horrific comedy.

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[–] tiffer0118 11 years ago

I thought it was hilarious. But then again I loved Bridesmaids as well. I'm thinking comedy movies aren't your thing.

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[–] exactlypointpoint 11 years ago

Only a girl wouldn't have found this movie funny.

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[–] Ultrasade 11 years ago

@exactlypointpoint Thats a really moronic thing to say.

Please consider me as an alternative to suicide

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[–] maudet 11 years ago

Besides that being ridiculously sexist, women, on average, actually voted this movie higher than men did.

At the time of posting this, the average score for men was a 7.5 and the average score for women was a 7.6, so not only are you an idiot, you're a misogynistic idiot, too.

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[–] maudet 11 years ago

Right of course and exactlypointpoint using an unnecessarily sexist remark made them look like a genius, that's solid logic.

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[–] MirrorofReflection 11 years ago

I didn't say that. But you look as dumb as that guy. Just ignore it, it's a random comment on the internet.

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[–] kdunlap24 10 years ago

My wife actually enjoyed it and she calls all the comedys I like "Childish and stupid" so there! :P

LOL, HA, JK <---added so some people would understand I was being truthful but funny in a non confrantational way....

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[–] andreenec 11 years ago

hey hey!!.. I'm a girl I found this flick ridiculously funny.. *LOL*

watched it right after Cabin in the Woods

*I'm a little left of center*

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[–] trcrock 11 years ago

Okay, I'll give you that. Cabin in the Woods is a pretty good movie, and I'd MUCH more recommend that over this thing. Cabin in the Woods at least something new with it (although I was reminded a bit of Adjustment Bureau a tiny bit while seeing it), which is much more than I can say for this. Then again, Joss Whedon knows a lot more about coming up with good stuff...

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[–] The_Purge 11 years ago

With the aspect of the way the kids were dieing, you're supposed to see it coming a mile away because that was the schtick.

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[–] trcrock 11 years ago

So what you're saying is that the characters dying off in such a predictable manner is the joke? Well, it probably would've been better if:
A. They didn't have it happen over and over again, therefore bludgeoning you to death with it
B. They could've made some kind of statement or joke about how stupid everyone is to die off like that. Just having them die predictably over and over again isn't funny, it's just lazy. If they'd done something more creative with the thing, it probably would've been better.

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[–] m1rock 11 years ago

Dude you problem is you don't "get". You don't get the genera its parodying and you don't seem to understand shtick in general. Go watch something that takes itself way too seriously if that's your cup of tea.

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[–] naef90 11 years ago

Why would you try to deconstruct something as subjective as humour? Going by the ratings, the majority of the people who watched it, had a laugh and enjoyed it.

You said it doesn't bother you when people like movies you don't like, but that's clearly a lie. There's nothing to argue here, if the movie made you laugh, it made you laugh. Comedy hits the reptilian part of your brain, you get a reaction or you don't.

Trying to explain to someone who found something funny, why it isn't funny while also maintaining the opinion that you don't care that they think it's funny makes you look like a prick.

Looks like a prick, talks like a prick, acts like a prick...probably is a prick.

Make sure you don't fit into that formula sir.

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[–] kdunlap24 10 years ago

Snap!

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[–] Sidewindr 9 years ago

You are the one who lacks the intellectual ability to understand the gags in the movie, you should not be casting aspersions on those that liked the movie by calling them intellectually deficient. The deaths are NOT the gag, they are the SETUP for the gags.

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[–] DJShades 9 years ago

Just re-watched the movie for the first time in a long time and...

The deaths are NOT the gag, they are the SETUP for the gags.

THIS. Every time.

As this movie is 6 years old now I'm not going to bother with spoiler tags, I assume everyone who's visiting this board has seen it by now anyway.

So take the first death for instance, which actually does a good job of setting up why the kids deaths are not the jokes, but unfortunate accidents; Tucker cutting through the beehive is the setup for the gag, the gag itself is tucker running about wildly waving the chainsaw around. We know why, thanks to the setup, but the kids don't, that is the joke! The absurdity of the situation (and thus the joke) is reinforced by the confused looks that Tucker and the kid, who thinks he's being chased, exchange when Tucker actually runs past the kid. The actual death of the kid is not treated, in the slightest, as a joke. Its not meant to be funny.

From that point on the deaths are telegraphed in to remove the shock value, so you're not completely caught off guard. Lets take the wood chipper kids death for instance. Everyone can see, from a mile off (intentionally), that one of the kids is going to end up in the chipper. When one of the kids does, that is the setup, the death isn't treated as a joke as illustrated by Tuckers horrified reaction and his futile attempt to save the kid. The joke is how it looks to the other kids, looking as though Tucker is feeding the kid into the chipper. Finally, to add some levity and ease the tension to an otherwise fairly gory scene Tucker, with some incredulity, says "are you okay?" to whats left of the kid in the chipper like he's going to respond.

Anyone who thinks the deaths themselves are the joke is bit of a moron, at no point does the film treat any of the deaths as a joke. As I said before, that point is even demonstrated by the first death.

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[–] qdfqdf 11 years ago

I agree with OP this wasn't a funny movie, and it wasn't even good as a movie either. Boring, predictable, pointless crapfest.

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[–] oundjianm 11 years ago

boo boo gaga..
young persons viewpoint on a very fresh horror film.
Do not pay attention to anything the op has said. Obviously this is no Kubrick but this is the American Shaun of the Dead in my opinion. every one will have their own opinion but I honestly can tell you that I have seen enough horror films to confidently say this is definitely a film to watch.

don't listen to anyone, even me... judge this film for yourself!!

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[–] trcrock 11 years ago

American Shaun of the Dead, huh? This thing? I'm sorry, that's an insult to Shaun of the Dead, to compare this worthless excuse of a "horror comedy" to a masterwork like that. Here are just some of the thing Shaun of the Dead had that this didn't:
1. Likable characters you actually cared about.
2. Well written jokes and humor, even some jokes you don't get the first time and that you'd want to see the movie again and again for.
3. The jokes and punch lines didn't get telegraphed to us a minute ahead of time and weren't predictable as heck as a result. And plus, all the jokes weren't just a variation of the same joke again and again.
Those and tons of other things. I mean seriously, saying this detestable thing is the "American Shaun of the Dead" is like saying Cop Out is the American Hot Fuzz, no way in HECK! Again, if you liked this abomination, though, good for you.

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[–] piedex 11 years ago

"Shaun of the Dead" is a masterwork? It was funny the first time I saw it but I don't watch it over and over.

TDvE was going after the obvious stupidity of films like "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and the people that watch those types of film (There are still people that believe that there was a massacre in Texas back in the late 60s or early 70s.)

Occasionally I get roped into watching these type of horror films and I can see where the kill is coming from and who is going to die just by the way the shot is framed. I find it funny that people don't get that so I guess that why I like the obvious death scenes. Actually I liked "Hot Fuzz" better than "Shaun of the Dead" because it ridiculed Tony Scott and early Kathryn Bigelow films to the point of parodying camera shots. No one ever gets why I laugh so hard at the helicopter flyover at the end.

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[–] CptHowdy87 9 years ago

TDvE was going after the obvious stupidity of films like "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and the people that watch those types of film (There are still people that believe that there was a massacre in Texas back in the late 60s or early 70s. [👀] )

That so many people thought The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was a true story actually speaks to the genius of the filmmakers actually.

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[–] CodyKes8 11 years ago

I can't believe how little you know about movies. You shouldn't pretend to know things you don't. Of course, this is all up to opinions, so stating this as a definitive isn't possible, but I'm someone who's probably studied movies a lot more than you and this movie is really good. Hey, though, what does your opinion matter? Better critics than you have called this a great movie.

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[–] lorddeseiz 11 years ago

Its ok, sense of humor is not for everyone, you probably will prefer epic movie and the likes better. Im thinking thats the kind of *cough* humor you like better.
Personally its been a long time since a new movie me laugh out loud for 5 minutes straight more then once, with the bee scene on top.
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[–] trcrock 11 years ago

Um, no. I saw Epic Movie long before I saw this one, and that still ranks as one of, if not THE worst movie I've EVER seen. If it makes you guys happy, I'll give Tucker and Dale vs. Evil this: it's better than anything Seltzerberg will EVER put out!

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[–] godzillaprime 11 years ago

Too bad you will. In jail.

I'm deconstructing you now. You're a fascist, elitist, narcissistic little creep, you know that?

So. How's things?

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