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Not as bad as they claim...

posted 6 days ago by BeenSavage (656)
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and this is coming from a harsh critic of the past slew of stinkers Marvel's put out. I firmly believe that the hidden truth is people are extremely butthurt on Chris Evans not reprising his role as Captain America. While I never found his character to be that stellar amongst the Avengers ensemble, there wasn't any point in watching this film where I missed him.

Pros:
- Never any drawn out dull moments that stall the plot
- Aside from a few quips from Mackey's new sidekick in the beginning, there isn't much forced humor in this
- No PC overtones. The movie seemed to stick to the in-universe issues at hand which was a huge plus

Cons:
- The CGI in these MCU movies continues to get worse. The intro scene made me question whether or not to give this movie a shot
- Though I mentioned no PC overtones, you still won't escape the 5ft female single-handedly taking down a handful of 250lb+ trained soldiers
- The combat seemed hella lethargic.
- Ford couldn't come close to filling the void of William Hurt's Thunderbolt Ross. Instead he came across as an MCU Joe Biden; very slow/very out of it.
- The end-credit scene could've either been omitted or included with the last scene of the movie as they seem to take place one after the other. The message was vague and ambiguous to what will lead up to Secret Wars. It was almost as if they weren't confident in what the lead up would be.
- Liv Tyler being in this movie was pointless and probably the easiest check she's received ever in her acting career

Conclusion: All in all this is nowhere near as bad as they're making it out to be. I'd recommend seeing it and at the very least be entertained but not blown away.

[–] BKB (11260) 6 days ago

I saw the movie earlier this evening and give it a 7/10. Some of you have to discerning of an eye if you're complaining about the CGI for the sake of doing so because it was just as good as any other movie and that includes the scenes with the RED HULK. I would rather of had Bruce Banner in the movie instead of in mentioning over Liv Tyler who was only in the movie was for less than like 30 seconds it felt like just for continuity sake. It made 0 sense why he wasn't in this that was considered a sequel to the INCREDIBLE HULK unless it would've been too noticeable for Ruffalo to be in it over Edward Norton who was Banner in TIH

[–] BeenSavage (656) 6 days ago

Nah man. The CGI was that bad. Did you not see the terrible green screening, especially during the last fight scene in the park? Particularly Mackey's solo shots. We've come too far to regress this bad in the SFX department.

[–] BKB (11260) 6 days ago

I don't go into a movie looking for bad CGI on purpose. I don't have that discerning of an eye for flawed FX. Everyone who says this movie has bad CGI, I'd like to see you do better??

[–] Towelie_Towel (1786) 6 days ago

What a stupid argument.

[–] BKB (11260) 5 days ago

It's not stupid. You have Gen Z thinking they can do this shit better than the folks at the FX House, so if that's in fact true, then step up to the plate and show us how it's done and the only reason you feel it's stupid is because you don't have a response to it nor a leg to stand on

[–] mitzibishi (2013) 3 days ago

That.....is....not....an....argument/////

[–] Satan2016 (26177) 6 days ago

Green screen is not CGI! It's been around over 50 years, very low tech.

[–] fc31 (6099) 5 days ago

Green screen allows filmmakers to replace the background with computer-generated imagery (CGI) in post-production.

But of course green screen is not CGI.

[–] mitzibishi (2013) 3 days ago

nah green screen hasn't been around for 50 years. Late 90's

It was blue screen before that started in the 1940s.

They only started using green screen because the light was warmer compared to blue screen, because of the way the light bounced from the green backgrounds. Blue is too cold, and the fact that clothing was more likely to have blue colours than bright green, so the green screen didn't mess with clothing choices.

>Green screen is not CGI

It's SFX though.

The OPs intro line could be interchanged with "SFX" and lose no meaning.

>The CGI in these MCU movies continues to get worse. The intro scene made me question whether or not to give this movie a shot.

Just like when Indiana Jones & The Temple of Doom had a few janky SFX shots, especially when combining live action footage with composite shots.

Would you take offence over somebody pointing that out?

[–] mitzibishi (2013) 3 days ago

Switch your brain off?

Is this your advice?

[–] FilmBuff (7434) 3 days ago

The CGI is fine. It looks like a Red Hulk fighting a guy in a bird costume, which is inherently unbelievable and straight from a comic book. Whatever nit-picks you have with are inconsequential, and a case of you griping for the sake of griping.

[–] BeenSavage (656) 2 days ago

I'm just tryna keep it real. Like I said, I enjoyed the movie. It's not free from all faults though. If I didn't state them, I'd look like an MCU homer. Lose/Lose I guess.

[–] DancingintheDark (1805) 6 days ago

“The hidden truth” is that people are sick and tired of rehashes, reboots, retreads, remakes and uninspired, low hanging fruit comic book films. Most of us are looking for well written, original material that brings something new to the table. Captain America: Brave New World is nothing but a lazily written, whored out cash cow that Hollywood expects to collect a small fortune on.
Jurassic World Rebirth is next in line for a hard pass from me.

[–] Keelai (36086) 5 days ago

^^^ this

[–] DoctorThirteen (15260) 5 days ago

🎯

[–] AnthonySocksss (1527) 2 days ago

Well written, original material will never happen again, this ain’t the 70s, or even the 90s. That ship has sailed. We will get endless reboots, rehashes and sequels/prequels released by Disney and Amazon till the end of time, or until the industry dies. Most of their revenue comes from Asia, so there is no incentive to go back to the old ways of spec scripts and a largely forgotten medium.

[–] HarlemEagle42 (18415) 6 days ago

I wonder what the original version of this movie was like. It's almost like they wanted it to be a CA movie, then a Hulk sequel but no Bruce, and also a reminder that Eternals got made. Seems like it was all over the place.

[–] Rorikon (18361) 5 days ago

Script felt drawn out with a lot of talking and nothing really happening (life affairs) where I felt a bit sleepy. Other than that, it was hiphopped up to fit the black man and hispanic. I am surprised it wasn't China going after the metal as well but our own ally? How does that make sense?

[–] ace2 (607) 5 days ago

Completely agree, it may not have been the best but this was solidly in the middle and nowhere near the worst Marvel movie.

Thor: Love & Thunder came out in July 2022 and that was when I threw in the towel. It was a DISGRACE given the talent. In the SEVEN movies since then i would say that only GoG3 and Deadpool3 were arguably better. To the people saying this is the worst movie -- are we to believe the Marvels was better?

Also, this is the first time I felt any hope that they were returning to the days when they had some sort of a grand plan.

[–] BKB (11260) 5 days ago

I thought THOR RAGNAROK was a Blast and probably the last time the HULK was INCREDIBLE

[–] BeenSavage (656) 3 days ago

Agreed and this is the only time I've enjoyed both anything Thor or post-08 Hulk related in the MCU.

[–] AnthonySocksss (1527) 2 days ago

“MCU Joe Biden” LOL

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7969) 9 hours ago

I frankly like it and I am tired of the negative comments about how only Steve Rogers should be Captain America. You can't expect Chris Evans to spend the rest of his life doing Captain America movies. I didn't mind that it was partly a Hulk movie either. I actually liked what they did with Leader and frankly look forward to see what they do with him later. I will admit I kind of wish though they'd chosen someone other than Harrison Ford as Ross to replace William Hert. Frankly every time I saw Harrison Ford in this I kept thinking of his other roles that I grew up watching. It was like seeing Indiana Jones pretending to be another character. But other than that I liked it and found the action scenes enjoyable.