Seriously, I am cool with gays and even with gay rights. However, the issue is when you see 10 year old kids believe they are gay because of what they see and hear, we need to take a step back and take a look. Slater was probably less than 14 years old. The fact that this movie touches on him being gay made me feel alittle weird. Whats next? A gay 2 year old baby. Let's distance homosexuality and kids.
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To the OP: Really?? That's the problem you had with this movie?
if you're gay, you're gay. doesn't matter how old you are...It's exactly like the second poster said.
Actually I did have an issue with that, but that was just a phase for the girl, shes young and will eventually mature.
shareSo you're saying you don't believe there are 14 year old gay kids? Hell, I knew I liked women by the time I was 5.
"I fulfilled a lot of people's predictions about me. I've become a real scumbag."
Danny Vermin
Listen, genius.
You don't have a choice. It's how you're born, it's how you're wired. Regardless of what Noah said to that kid, it makes no difference. He will become what he becomes.
This OP represents the uneducated, ignorant, hateful (and sadly) often majority of humanity.
I suggest you do some homework, and actually open a book and do your research. The "you can teach people to be gay" ship sailed a long time ago.
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even if you know she will outgrow the whorish persona, that may or may not happen before it lands her in a 3way at the school bus stop. you should be more worried about that than homosexual scenarios involving your kids. it's typical and not shameful to kids like homosexuality is.
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Because homosexuality is abnormal. The anus and rectum were meant for the elimination of feces,not penile penetration and thrusting.
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And boobies were meant to feed milk to kids. It's quite abnormal for an adult male to want to play with them.
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There's kind of a big difference between glands that feed babies and orifices that expel poop. Just sayin'...
share> There's kind of a big difference between glands that feed babies and orifices that expel poop. Just sayin'...
Would you care to explain why having a sexual fetish for one is different than having a fetish for the other?
And please explain it in logical, rational terms, not in emotional terms.
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Not taking one side or the other here (not because I don't have an opinion but because doing so here is about the most pointless thing ever) but I can give a perspective on this:
Would you care to explain why having a sexual fetish for one is different than having a fetish for the other?
And please explain it in logical, rational terms, not in emotional terms.
> The reason for this is because breasts and hips are what is important to child birth and nursing, or procreation.
Yes, that is true in terms of practicality. A man wants a good, sturdy woman to bear his children, just like he wants a good, sturdy horse to plow his field and good, sturdy lumber with which to build his home.
But, I am asking what attracts a man to huge breasts today. These days, the size of a woman's breasts has nothing to do with how well she can raise a child.
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Kidding me? Didn't I just explain precisely that? Please, read the second paragraph too, if you did actually ask the question because you wanted an actual answer. If not, I have no interest in getting into this argument, only responding to this point.
If you don't see what I meant, just understand that a lot of our behavior (behavior of an average person) today has causes in our past. Most of what we do likely has an important primal reason that we may not even be aware of. Anyway, I'll have to explain a lot if I need to explain that.
> Didn't I just explain precisely that? Please, read the second paragraph too, if you did actually ask the question because you wanted an actual answer.
I did read it. You said that men are attracted to breasts because they are a sign of fertility. I agreed that this used to be the case when a man's primary goal in life was to find a woman that would give him as many children as possible.
But, these days, that is not a major concern anymore. Young men are fascinated with breasts long before they start looking to create a family. And when they do, they only want 1-2 kids and, if the woman isn't around or has small breasts, the kids can be fed with milk from the store. Breasts are not needed anymore.
In the old days, men used to be attracted to a woman's ankles. Today, not so much. Times change and men become interested in different things.
> Most of what we do likely has an important primal reason that we may not even be aware of.
A lot of things that would have been important to a caveman are not really important to men today. The ability to outrun a tiger isn't really that important today. The ability to cook well was important 40 years ago but not today.
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I can't explain it any further without referring you to a lot of reading (look into Elsevier's 'Evolution and Human Behavior'). Basically, modern human behavior and attitude that we call natural is shaped through our development from need, as part of evolution.
You don't just want things or do things, young men are not just attracted to breasts because "that's their personality". This behavior is shaped through out development. Whether breasts are needed or not today doesn't matter at all because people don't desire logically but rather it is a primal instinct that is shaped through evolution. Sure, people don't NEED any of that but I'm explaining why the traditional behavior has "natural" reasoning.
But do as you like man. More power to you, whatever you are.
Wow, a bunch of ignorant geniuses here. Must be almost done with med school... I'll bet some of you could help me with O-chem.
Some things you're just wired to be. Many fetishes are just that... you're wired to like a certain thing. And no, many guys are NOT drawn to "huge breasts". I'm not. I dig a solid B. Some like that. Some don't. Some like asians, blacks, *beep* EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. Deal with it.
Homosexuality, as much as uneducated, ignorant bigots would like to believe, is not a choice. It's how you're wired, that's it. And it's not about being focused on poop... that is (obviously) the fascination of teenagers and immature internet dwellers. In fact, a lot of gay men often rarely perform it that way.
Maybe you should talk to some gays instead of just being ignorant.
Or at the very least, stop pretending to know about medical processes when you're in middle school/community college.
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How about... most people are breast fed when they are young. Mothers naturally bring comfort. Men look for a woman who is comforting. Breasts remind men of their mothers subconsciously . Its a truth they may not want to believe as its a theory. Freud?
share> How about... most people are breast fed when they are young. Mothers naturally bring comfort. Men look for a woman who is comforting. Breasts remind men of their mothers subconsciously .
Well, that sounds good and certainly Dr. Freud would agree with you. But the idea falls apart when you realize that most women had the same breast feeding when they were young and most women are not attracted to other women's breasts when they are older.
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women are attracted to breasts. straight and gay. just not all women.
shareThat's a very confusing sentence.
Approximately what percent of women do you think are attracted to other women's breasts?
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statistics is bullsh!t, unless you want to ask every single woman on the planet. i said most women, as in, not all but not none... how about you do some research yourself instead of trying to feel superior to strangers on the internet.
are you claiming that women are not attracted to breasts?
> are you claiming that women are not attracted to breasts?
Yes, I am claiming that straight women -- about 85% of all women -- are not attracted to women's breasts.
> i said most women, as in, not all but not none
I'm not so sure that you understand the definition of "most".
> instead of trying to feel superior to strangers on the internet.
Well, I do know that I am superior to folks that can't even put together a coherent sentence.
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wow, look at you being all noble! do you normally argue with strangers? especially if they turn out to be twelve year olds? just curious what makes you feel like you matter in society?
where did you get 85% your ass?
did you account for 85% of the commmenters on this article? just curious where you pulled that statistic out of?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/sex/TGU145JRQIJII68G7
> do you normally argue with strangers? especially if they turn out to be twelve year olds?
You are twelve? Hmm. Something makes me doubt that, since IMDB says that you opened your account in 2005, when you were just four years old.
But, I would agree that you are acting like a 12-year old, so there's that. Perhaps you need a little nap time.
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this account has been logged onto this computer for a looooooooooong time. it doesn't matter who uses it hahaha
sharei've never met my mom and I think tits are fantastic.
Plot hole - Aspect of a film that is misunderstood or missed while using your smart phone.
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What about straight couples that engage in anal sex?! And gay couples that don't?
At the end of the day, it is not any of your business what happens in the bedroom of two consenting people of legal age.
You know...for kids.
@ corinnacarpenter
"Because homosexuality is abnormal. The anus and rectum were meant for the elimination of feces,not penile penetration and thrusting."
Hey, genius...you do realize that hetero people have anal sex as well, right? And sex isn't what defines you as gay anyway. You can be a gay virgin. Besides, the mouth is meant for speaking and eating, so you better not ever commit oral sex, right? God, your comment is stupid on so many levels.
"I fulfilled a lot of people's predictions about me. I've become a real scumbag."
Danny Vermin
I know that straight people engage in anal sex as well and it is still unnatural. The anus is not for penile penetration and thrusting. Disease-laden feces passes through the rectum and out of the anus. Are you not aware of this?
Why is my comment stupid? Because I know how the body works and what goes where?
It is unnatural. Men and women were designed for each other. In every which way.
Two men sodomizing each other is sick.It is deviant. It spreads disease like wildfire,namely HIV. Don't believe me,genius? Look up the mind-blowing stats on queer sex and the rates of disease.
I won't hold my breath. Now go find some underage boy to sodomize through a glory-hole in a public bathroom.
I have a crush on Vic Morrow. :)
Please do humanity a favor and never reproduce.
"Two men sodomizing each other is sick.It is deviant. It spreads disease like wildfire,namely HIV. Don't believe me,genius? Look up the mind-blowing stats on queer sex and the rates of disease."
Wrong. In many areas, HIV/AIDS is the leading cause of death for black women.
You what's worse than HIV? People like you. People that spread ignorance, hate, and obviously a lack of any sort of formal education. Because sadly, there really isn't a cure for that kind of stupidity or intolerance.
Tell you what. If I had to pick two of my gay male friends (who run a design firm I work with) and a redneck, bigoted homophobe like you who probably will never get a college degree or amount to anything and make NO difference on this planet, tell me... who are we better without? The healthy, community active philanthropists? Or the hick that's going to reproduce and have more hick babies, and just perpetuate fear and ignorance?
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Then explain the male g-spot being 2 inches up in there.
To each their own, If someone wants to shove a dick up there that's their business.
Light travels faster than sound,
that's why people seem bright,
until you hear them.
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Don't feed the troll. Gay is gay, no matter what age, just like straight is straight. I have a gay cousin, and he, uh, didn't "influence" me to change from being a hetero (which I knew I was in pre-school), nor did he his brother or sister from being straight or any of his friends, etc. ad infinitum (and his mother has a gay brother who similarly didn't influence her). You can't influence what is biologically determined, but you can and should support those who in the minority and are STILL prejudiced against by irrational ignorance from petty insecure and totally unintelligent losers like the op. (If he truly wasn't anti-gay but only anti "bad influence" he would have also commented on the girl acting whorish which was very disturbing and the only real moral issue...then again, he is probably anti-women too, thinks they are all slutty, or else this would have bothered him).
shareThis isn't a kid's movie so your point is invalid. And if any parent is letting their child or pre-teen watch this movie with graphic sex and violence then they have more issues then talking about someone being gay or not.
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I agree with what you said. Jonahs character cant just assume the kids gay cos he looked funny at some kids on the train, it could have been for any other reason, he only knew the kid for that night, and why make this part of the story, was just a stupid thing to put in there. This movie was all over the effing place, it had potential, like a funny american pie type movie but then it wanted to have morals and feelings, and then went all bipolar with all the stupid happenings of the drug dealers and then had to finish up with a fairy tale ending of the fat ugly kid getting the hot black chick. It was funny in places but was really messed up, overall, shame as Jonah is pretty funny and I thought the kids were pretty good too, especially the whore girl lol.
shareAre you two seriously telling some fictional character what they can and can't say?
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In an interview, Max Records (who plays Slater), describes the character of Slater as "anxiety ridden, angst ridden and an extremely nervous teen."
The link to the interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtR0iLkw74
You do know that you're born gay right?
shareno ur not, its the society that turns them gay.
Last movie seen:
Lorax: 8/10
John carter: 8/10
Dum Maaro Dum: 7/10
being born that way means that it is genetic
in order to pass on genes you need to procreate
see the problem there?
Esse Quam Videri
A) That's not how genetics work.
B) Many homosexuals procreate.
See the problem with your argument?
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More ignorant morons who have no idea how genetics work.
Guess what dummies, you're born that way. The "gays will turn you gay" ship sailed a LONG time ago, you might want to do some REAL research instead of hanging around high school morons and reading things of the internet. And for the vast MINORITY of people that may lean one way or another and choose to be gay (never met one in my life), well.. good luck finding one of them.
By all means, go speak with any doctor. Have fun.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/jun/16/highereducation.uk3
this is a stupid argument
my mom and dad were both brown eyed, yet I was born with blue eyes
so yes, it's possible for breeders to carry the 'gay' gene and pass it on to their kids
Oh right, it's society and everything that turns people gay. Umm, I grew up with the heterosexuality "norm," with Princess movies, I was always extremely feminine and yet, I still turned out to not be straight. I'm not gay, but I'm most definitely not straight. Yes, the boy was gay, so what?
You really can't influence sexual orientation on people. You're born with it, it's not thrust upon you. Seriously, can we chose our eye color? Hair color? Height? Skin color? It's the same thing. We can't choose our sexual orientation.
"You're so dumb, you can't spell I.Q." Gotta LOVE Jo Polniaczek
Apparently we've got some geniuses in here that know more about homosexuality, genetics, and how the brain works than what almost every doctor and researcher has been discovering in the last 5-10 years.
It's funny though, but very sad that people will remain ignorant and hateful despite glaring evidence to the contrary.
And don't be fooled for a second... these idiots are bigots. Normal people don't give a crap about who is straight or gay because it's none of their business and has nothing to do with them.
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if you're worried about any type of media influencing a child to be homosexual(which i think is a ridiculous sentiment) you shouldn't let them watch spongebob
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I actually agree with the OP somewhat when it comes to this. You have this complete screw up of a character(johna hills character) that cant get his own life in order randomly try to turn into a therapist and comment on something he has no idea about. To have a disagreement about this issues isn’t “homophobic” its just simply a disagreement.
shareBut... then you're now complaining about what some fictional character said to another, which is even more retarded. Never mind the fact that people are what they are, and telling them one thing or another won't make any difference.
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I 100% agree with you. I don't go around calling them faygget or disrespecting them but there is a certain tolerance for that crap with kids. My wife and I were disgusted and decided to turn the movie off. We have a daughter and we don't want to subject her to that crap.
shareOk, so by the OP's logic and SGibbs comments (clearly a homophobe) then as a gay man I should be able to say that I don't want myself or kids to be subjected to heterosexuality.
Aye, perfectly reasonable... christ.
In an industry so dominated by straight relationships, there can't be a few movies that touch on homosexuality and send out a positive message about it?
This is 2012, it saddens me I have to debate this.
Disagreeing with homosexuality does not make one a homophobe.
I find it unnatural and abnormal because of how it violates nature.
The anus and rectum were not designed for sex. They are designed for the elimination of fecal matter.
Marry me,Bob Gunton!
I think you'll find there is more to being homosexual than simply the act of anal sex - something many aren't even remotely interested in - but it's nice to know that's what you immediately think of when merely the topic is brought up.
I also think you'll find that homosexuality has existed alongside heterosexuality in nature since about... ever. What a violation. Live and let live, people.
Man people are getting pathetic, you guys are even defending gays now? like it's a normal thing for men to be with other men? no wonder theres so many of the things. You're all brainwashed by political correctness.
This thread saddens me. I'll return when people actually begin to function as a member of 21st century society.
Guess I probably won't be returning then.
It's a thread full of moronic bigots who have never even met a homosexual. Sounds like pre-teens fascinated with poop... and I'm wondering if some of them aren't in the closet themselves.
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The only thing that's pathetic is your glaring ignorance.
1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
From the middle of October until next summer the Norwegian Natural History Museum of the University of Oslo will host the first exhibition that focuses on homosexuality in the animal kingdom.
"One fundamental premise in social debates has been that homosexuality is unnatural. This premise is wrong. Homosexuality is both common and highly essential in the lives of a number of species," explains Petter Boeckman, who is the academic advisor for the "Against Nature's Order?" exhibition.
The most well-known homosexual animal is the dwarf chimpanzee, one of humanity's closes relatives. The entire species is bisexual. Sex plays an conspicuous role in all their activities and takes the focus away from violence, which is the most typical method of solving conflicts among primates and many other animals.
"Sex among dwarf chimpanzees is in fact the business of the whole family, and the cute little ones often lend a helping hand when they engage in oral sex with each other."
Lions are also homosexual. Male lions often band together with their brothers to lead the pride. To ensure loyalty, they strengthen the bonds by often having sex with each other.
Homosexuality is also quite common among dolphins and killer whales. The pairing of males and females is fleeting, while between males, a pair can stay together for years. Homosexual sex between different species is not unusual either. Meetings between different dolphin species can be quite violent, but the tension is often broken by a "sex orgy".
Homosexuality is a social phenomenon and is most widespread among animals with a complex herd life.
Theyre animals for a reason. Humans should know better than to stoop so low.
shareThis is one study, how many other scientific studies have been done that corroborate the results of this single study? If one accepts the assertion of this study, it is worth noting that there are between 3 - 30 million animal species on planet earth. Even if you take the conservative 3 million figure the 1500 species represent only 0.05% of all animal species on earth.
shareMany others, since you asked.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/jun/16/highereducation.uk3
There are also many regarding genetics.
Try reading a book that isn't a comic.
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Funny thing about the animal/nature argument is, it's the only one gays like to throw out.
How about incest? I've seen(with my own eyes) a dog banging his mom and sister back-to-back. Then he tried to do the same to his brother. Is that something you would agree with if done by humans. Should a mom be able to sleep with her son as soon as he can get an erection? It happens in nature right? That means we have no choice as to who we wanna sleep with. So why aren't people born with incest in their DNA?
How about the animals who kill/eat their young? There's a reason everyone hates Casey Anthony. Some animals eat their kids. Last time I checked baby stew was still illegal to make. It's in nature right? Should we all be allowed to kill/eat our kids? Would you accept it if it started happening by a small percentage of the population?
On to the subject of gays. It's most definitely a choice. A choice made when you're young(for some), but a choice. Facts I know based on gays I know.
1.All are mama's boys.
2.All had a girlfriend at one point.(one dated my sister in high school)
3.All love to be the center of attention. I think being gay is the ultimate attention grabber, and alot of people need plenty of attention.
3.David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, and John Lennon(strong rumor) all had sex with another man. What do you call that? They all made a choice to be with a man. Bisexuality means you're at least half gay or interested in the lifestyle. Yet those guy are straight as they come. They chose to be gay at that time. Little Richard was gay most of his life. Now he's somehow straight(at least in public). He have no reason to lie about being straight , since we already knew he was gay.
As he weeps to wicked birds of prey, Who pick up on his bread crumb sins
=Bob Dylan
Ahh, I see the problem. You're obviously sexually attracted to the same sex but make a CHOICE to not engage in homosexual sex, so you automatically assume everyone is the same way.
It's the only logical conclusion one can come to regarding those who claim it's a choice; those of us heterosexuals who have absolutely no homosexual tendencies seem to realize just how innate it is, that it's not a choice. We couldn't just choose at any moment to suddenly be attracted to someone of the same sex. To think it's not only possible but the norm has to mean that YOU make the choice daily to not act on your own homosexual attractions.
The anus and rectum were not designed for sex. They are designed for the elimination of fecal matter.