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Setting doesn't make sense compared to the games

posted 7 months ago by blackzod198 (9)
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The show takes place only 20 years after New Vegas, but there's barely any evidence of the NCR's presence other than Shady Sands and the NCR flag in the vault. The NCR encompassed vast territories across multiple states and had begun to rebuild civilization to the point that they had a functioning government and universities, yet the TV show looks like it takes place closer to Fallout 1 where everything is still destroyed and the only signs of civilization are small towns. A single nuke destroying Shady Sands isn't enough to completely wipe out all vestiges of the NCR. It feels like the show takes place in an alternate timeline or something.

[–] nanaboo (35) 7 months ago

yea well. get in line lol
They probably have a reason for it. I only wonder what they will concoct up.

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[–] creamandcrop (44) 7 months ago

A agree, it is absurd to assume that nuking a city of 40k would transform NCR from a neutral peacekeeping force with bases all over the place into a band of commie woke-andians.

In addition, both NCR and BOS behave like stereotypical Caesar's Legion, not only in philosophy but ritual.

The acting inside the vaults (32 / 4) was incredibly strained... maybe it's the standard manner of acting in every TV show made after 2012? So it may be some sort of a self-awareness? But is that inside joke really worth the price?
The last three episodes are way lower quality than the first four, so that may have contributed to getting fed up...

Overall the show was better than I expected, and will probably have at least 2 seasons more if the producers can get over the whole "hey, it's a post-apocalyptic desert, no effort needed to populate the place!" shtick and start writing quality material.

[–] moviechatterer (15583) 7 months ago

" It feels like the show takes place in an alternate timeline or something."

You are exactly right, how could you have expected anything else ?
The show is "based on the games" and never pretended to be anything else and nobody expected it to.

To limit it to the lore / events / continuity of the games would be ridiculous so why even attempt it?

[–] blackzod198 (9) 7 months ago

That's not correct, Bethesda said it takes place in the same timeline as the games. And recently when people complained that the show seemed to retcon New Vegas, the lead writer denied the accusation and said New Vegas is still canon.

[–] moviechatterer (15583) 7 months ago

Ah well , I can see how that may bother some people .

I can just pretend Bethesda didnt say that and happily watch it as "set in the Fallout universe" with no regard to people places events timelines that happened in the games.

[–] SickSpazmoid (843) 7 months ago

Todd Howard in a recent interview:

And look, if you look at the background, the NCR is a wide-ranging sort of organization and group across not just California, but other places. So the show focuses on this period of time and this group here, and that's what we can say right now. But I don't think you've heard the last of the NCR.

He also says that Shady Sands was bombed shortly after the events in FNV.

[–] xergan (1067) 7 months ago

aka we totally hate whatever Black Isle and their "ghoul form" Obsidian Entertainment created and thus we shit on it. Yes, we acknowledge it, but still shit on everything they established and was not from the god like mind of Todd Howard.

[–] Towelie_Towel (1773) 7 months ago

Interesting.
But for a game so "unloved", it seemed to have the major focus of the series. Even the theme was always playing.

[–] xergan (1067) 7 months ago

Jonathan Nolan is a Fallout Fan since Black Isle days, so he will for sure like it. Let's see what he will do in Season 2.