.... in almost ALL movies. The rated-R gunge usually isn't worthwhile, limits the shows audience, and does no good long term.
shareGlad they didn't. Too many movies are spoiled by pandering to the children and the childish by eliminating adult content.
shareI think OP's point was UNNECCESARY swearing in movies. Sometimes it just adds nothing at all to the scene or story.
I actually think it takes more creativity and knowledge of language to NOT swear- both in movies and real life.
(Funny how the post above was so defensive about the right to swear, but OP was afraid to actually swear himself.)
You can't objectively quantify "unnecessary" swearing in a film.
Touch darkness and darkness touches you back.
Sure you can. I once saw a movie where they used the "F" word once and said explicitly that they did it to get a R rating.
Have you heard of "gratuitous" sex? It is the same thing for sex as "unnecessary" is for swearing.
YOU should wait for the TV version. Read the book. It's FUNNY, Katz is hilarious with his surly language. I'd be disappointed if they didn't swear! Oh fiddle-de-de my pack weights too much. I don't think so ehh!
August 26 2015, reporter and cameraman shot dead on live TV, whats the rating on that one. USA and Canada too and most of the "civilized" world are really hypocrites when it comes to censuring and telling us whats acceptable and not. Live murder on TV is ok I guess but dont you *beep* swear while doing it. Pretty sure some TV stations played that back while saying "this may disturb you" but DONT YOU *beep* SWEAR or show a nipple. Really this is pathetic.
shareWait, what?
Of course live murder on TV is not OK. It's not like it was planned by the station.
None of my local stations played it back. Just talked about it.
TV stations show murder videos all the time.
I'm not saying that should be legal, but it's a sad world we live in where we have to bow to horrid individuals like the OP who want to nanny the details of other people's lives.
Interesting are the comments in the two months since the OP put out a very brief, general comment about "rated-R content."
There were a few responses that focused on the strange word "gunge" that was used. We read a rant from someone that made a lot of assumptions about the OP and even delved into politics, and responses to that. Then people brought up the topic of censorship--which really has nothing to do with the topic. Virtually no one has commented on any of the OP's three actual points.
I'll take a stab at those.
Without going through my files of movie reviews to provide specific examples, I wish to agree that R-rated bits usually do not add to a picture. They more often detract from it.
There are people who go to films who aren't allowed to see R-rated ones due to their age, and there are many people who might well enjoy a given film who would be attracted, but when they see it is rated R, figure it could be full of all sorts of profanities and other scenes that they don't want to see, so they pass on those.
Not everyone does research, spends ten minutes to learn details on why a film is rated R, to figure out if they would enjoy it because the only thing that gives it that rating is a little cussing or maybe one brief nudity scene in a lockerroom, and nothing else. A lot of potential movie goers see ads on TV and on hearing the film is rated R, say, "Let's skip it."
It has been proven through movie attendance figures that films rated R average fewer movie goers than films of any other rating--PG13, PG, or G. There is no question but that the OP was correct that R ratings limit the audience.
Now I will comment on this film, which I saw two days ago. The cussing was as appropriate as any I've heard in a film. I mean, they did not stand there and scream repeated cuss words at each other for "shock value." They didn't present anyone as being so crude as to be unable to express themselves without a cuss word thrown in.
They presented two old men who occasionally use language of that sort, in the ways real people do, and, in my opinion, in ways that did NOT detract from the movie. I did not count the cuss words, of course, but feel certain that there were far more pages of dialog that did not have a cuss word than there were ones that did.
In conclusion, note that the OP never said anything against this film, only R-rated ones in general. I will opine that very few people found the cussing in this film offensive.
I just finished the book (again).
Katz can't be Katz unless he says "*u*k" a couple of times a chapter, so not sanitizing this is keeping true to the spirit of the book.
We're probably going to bring our son to see it: even if they stick to the exact wording of the book he certainly won't hear anything he doesn't hear every day in middle school (...which itself should be rated at least "R"), and we can use Katz as a bad example if need be!
I will not see a film rated R for bad language. Bad language is NEVER necessary. We know people swear in real life, but films are not real life. The opening scene in Casablanca obviously has a painted backdrop - it wasn't filmed in a street in Casablanca! Does that detract from our enjoyment? Of course not. We suspend our disbelief; it is the telling of the story that matters. Film makers need to grow up.
shareRemember, offense takes place in your head. There is nothing inherently bad about curse words; you CHOOSE to be offended. If you want to be a prude, fine, but don't expect any pandering treatment and don't expect recognition for pushing your prudiness on others.
People curse in real life, therefore, it should be expected that people curse in movies. End of discussion.
Only a bigot says "End of discussion".
shareI didn't even notice. What, the panties? A few swear words? No child would be interested in seeing a movie about 2 old men hiking anyway.
shareMaybe the book had middle-aged fittish men-not grubby old huffing and puffing fellows that could be smelt from my side of the screen?I really object to inattentive driving...puts me on the edge of my seat.Mind you,I can handle it when done by the Blues Bros...weird,eh?
shareHm, it's free for all audiences here in Germany (FSK 0 [the number indicates the minimum age]).
Although I don't know how they translated the f-word.
Personally I can't stand an overuse of the f-word. Was amusing in Dexter but usually it drops my impression of a movie. Probably because no-one talks in such manners in my life. 'Sh*t' is the worst already and rarely used... unless shít happens ;)
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