none of the "wow, that was unexpectedly good", "this was great", "really enjoyed it!"
does anyone like this movie? It's okay to me, i just don't care about any of the people, or their plot or cause. it just plods through some stuff
-- and of course has NO ENDING (until part2 of course) bleh
I thought it was excellent, one of the best films of the year.
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shareI would love to hear you opinion of why it was one of the best of the year?
I'm not going to knock it, it's your opinion to have.
Wondering why it was the full package for you.
To me the music and effects were top tier, but only one scene was interesting: the laser shredding through buildings was new and caught my eye. That was all for me.
Boy was this a slog. Took me a week to get through, had to just stop every 10 to 20 minutes. Normally I watch movies all the way through even if not I'm pressed, this flat out bored me.
And I didn't care about any of it. They tell us how important the spice is, and that's it. They just tell us. So what??? There was zero reason for us to care about spice other than them telling us. Whoopy freaking doo.
I regret using my time on this, although I resorted to watching while eating or surfing.
Gah was just so dull, dull sets, dull acting, the music and some effects were great, didn't care about any one of their losses or plight. Just bland.
Ok, it wasn't for me. I get it. But I'd rather watch that sad 1984 version again and again over this simply because it was ENTERTAINING.
Felt exactly the same. Not to knock the film for those who enjoyed it -- it was well made for what it was, just not my thing.
I struggled to get to the halfway mark, then chopped the viewing into discrete time allotments to eventually finish it.
It made me appreciate the early 80's version (except for the cheesy music and sloppy ending), which is campy fun.
It's not hard to see the spice being the universe's equivalent of oil. (The way wealthy offworlders invade to seize control of a desert ecosystem for its natural commodities). That's the reason the spice is so important. In his 1965 novel, Frank Herbert foretold a future marred by violent struggles over energy that has very sadly come true in the form of Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Ukraine.
I don't agree that everything about this movie is as dull as you claim. The cinematography is some of the best in the sci-fi genre and the production design is nothing short of inspired. The Sardaukar planet resembling a Mayan society complete with human sacrifice pyramid perfectly illustrates the imperial guards' ruthless nature. The acting was also quite good. Paul's breakdown in the tent with Lady Jessica was both troubling and tender, and I liked how Oscar Isaac made Duke Leto feel like a distinct sci-fi leader rather than just rehashing Poe Dameron.
As for the 80s version of the film, I get people's enjoyment, but as an adaptation it's an absolute travesty. The characters are cartoonish particularly the Harkonnens who are much more cunning and scary in the book than Lynch portrayed them. David Lynch also washed out most of the stories rich allegory: a condemnation of modern colonialism. This is why I believe this remake to be so superior. It actually understands the urgency of the work it's based on.
I thought it was nice to look at but not sure if any benefit in splitting in two.
Judging by the Lynch version, we've got a mortgage of Paul getting really good in the desert to be slogged out over an entire film. Potentially LOTR part 2 boredom incoming...
I'm disappointed people keep supporting 3hour, or 2 and 3 part movies instead of making the film makers make tighter better stories
shareYeah, I agree. I rewatched the Lynch version before going to see this and was shocked at how close to the end of that version they were getting.
I think making an expanded two film version would have been better served by having some prequel-ish exposition of Paul's man love for Aquaman. Maybe by showing them in some battle. And a further exposition of the witches and their goals - maybe by visiting their home world and showing some plotting gathering. Then maybe it could have cut at a slighter earlier point and part 2 could have began with the sacking of Arrakis. At least that would have given it somewhere to go.
As it stands though, what we got was largely a visually much improved version but with little / nothing of substance added to the story despite the long running time.
exactly.
im no writer, but kinda wanted more character actions showing me why I should like them, not just, "here's a guy, he must do stuff now".
Like when Duncan shows up flying fast and low over the water, up past the camera.... would have like to see his hands yanking and banking on the stick, maybe a close of of a smile or excitement in his eyes before we see him, so we know this guy likes to have fun and enjoy life in what he does.
Instead, it's just a ship swooping in... maybe that is normal way to do it, maybe not... just a ship flying in. okay then. So? Oh. It's this guy apparent friend/big brother type...
i dont know... yes, lots of visuals NOT really driving the story, just ooh another sand desert wide shot.
What the general gripe is that it just isn't what people expect from a modern day space epic. Personally, I think audiences are so drunk on the zippy KAPOW! factors of "Star Wars" and Marvel superheroes that when something like "Dune" comes along, they don't get that there is so much more you can say with a fantasy concept. Much like the book it's based on, "Dune" isn't a typical escapism. It's a meditative look at modern day colonialism, mankind's addiction to nonrenewable energy resources, and religious extremism (all of which are due to be more fully explored in Part II).
shareThis is idea IS fully valid, and very true.
However, there is a reason things like entertainment evolve. Gone are the days of "Guys walking out to car and get in, car drives off, car driving on road, car stops, guys get out and walk up to house, open door and walk in". Sure that serves the story's character's movement, but can largely be skipped now for more plot/story interest, for time save sake.
Nothing wrong with the old ways, and I still watch a lot of them, but movie goers have evolved and expect much nowdays. Deservedly so, because now it can be done.
I have to admit I never read the books so unsure how those represent, but, TO ME, this new movie (nor the 1984) really displayed anything about colonialism, addiction to energies, but yeah, a little bit of obvious religion. So, TO ME, if that all it is really about, I feel it missed its mark big time. And I'm pretty clever following subtext and plots, according to me. I GET why that all can relate, but it is very weak in its display.... like saying any two families fighting is also about: war, or government, or sports, or nations, or races, or any number of seemingly relevant things.
TO ME, this new movie (nor the 1984) really displayed anything about colonialism
I meant DIDN'T.
Maybe it did? I don't know, nor care, because I was so bored with the whole thing, there felt like nothing to bother investing my mind in. not the characters, not the plot, even the visuals were plain and dull TO ME.
yes, this film wasn't for me, I know that, and no, I don't like TRANSFORMERS either (avoiding the inevitable dig). Tenet is a current favorite
This is the best Sci-Fi movie to come out of Hollywood, probably since Oblivion. I really enjoyed it, way more than I was expecting to, given the casting (which looks terrible on paper). The score really pulled me into the film as well.
shareI liked it. I like the 84 movie too. This one is taking it's time and it has excellent visuals to keep it going.
shareI enjoyed it very much. Still doesn't approach the quality of the book but doubtful any movie will.
shareI enjoyed it. I didn't realized it was actually a two-parter movie when I saw the title card. The worldbuilding and story was certainly interesting and it was also a bit hard to follow on the first watch, coming from someone who has never read the book or saw the 1984 film before. It also had good cinematography, action scenes, and SFX. Or course, the story does feel incomplete by the end (until we get a part 2).
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