What is the motive of villain?
Why has this movie got so good reviews?it literally has no plot.what is the reason behind the villains killings?
Why has this movie got so good reviews?it literally has no plot.what is the reason behind the villains killings?
This is from an interview with the director and posted in this forum by SASKIA47.
I had a “Part 3” in mind when writing “Part 2.” There are so many questions brought up in “Part 2” that are not answered, and that was part of the design because I know I’m going into a “Part 3.”
I saw terrifier 1.There is very little difference in plot of two movies.In both movies it is not mentioned why the clown kills.
shareNon sequitor.
shareYeah they have not really given us much of a motive or backstory to Art the clown. Part 3 hopefully does
shareThere is very little difference in plot of two movies.In both movies it is not mentioned why the clown kills.In Terrifier 1 he went after the two girls because they dissed him in the restaurant. Then he went after anyone who got in his way. In this movie he mostly killed people who had no contact with him whatsoever. share
Nobody knows yet. It'll be explained in later films.
The first film was simply a showcase for Art. This film is laying the foundations of the lore.
For the record the director has warned people that his commentary for this film (which will be available on it's home media releases) contains spoilers for the next films. So perhaps listening to his commentary when it's released will contain background info for Art and his motives.
I always think horror movie villains are more sinister when they have no motivations.
If they're random people killing for no reason, that's scarier because it could happen to you, at any time, for no reason whatsoever.
If he's killing people who he has some connection to, or reason to kill, that becomes less true.
This guy gets it.
shareThis exactly. He's an undead, sadistic, murderous, psycho nutjob clown, who kills people in the most ridiculously gory ways that he can. That's all you need.
shareHaving some kind of motivation for killing lots of people gives me more incentive to watch one of these movies. I think that Art is that rare interesting horror character and I personally would like for him to have a a motivation for what he's doing after two films.
shareMichael Myers had no motivation other than he wanted to kill.
When they started to write motivations, that's when Halloween became lame.
The original film gives us something. Myers kills his sister. Then, he comes back, focusing on the home where he killed his sister. A number of victims are like his sister. So, there was something to work with.
share>his motivation was killing people JUST LIKE HIS SISTER
So why does he kill dudes, old people and animals? Black men, black women, mechanics, cops, and he killed 2 dogs in the first movie.....just like his sister huh.
He has no motive other than the want to kill. His pattern is only killing, and he doesn't even enjoy it. He's a killing machine. Simple and beautiful.
Carpenter added a second motive in part 2 of him chasing his sister. That's the only other decent motive. He didn't even want to direct it, and begrudgingly wrote, adding a little twist of Michael Myers, and Laurie Strode being related.
It's when the studio wanted to churn out cheap sequels with poor writers and a lot of studio meddling, we have the awful "The Cult of Thorn". When the series gets several movies in with low quality writers people want to add their "piece" to the series and start adding lame motives and back stories that don't work we have:
The cult is comprised of several Haddonfield residents who believe in an ancient Druid demon that spreads sickness and death. To save themselves, they place a curse on a child from their tribe (currently Michael Myers). The child is then possessed by Thorn, driving them to kill their entire family on the night of Samhain (Halloween), whenever the Thorn constellation appears. They planned to pass the curse on to Danny Strode after Michael made his final sacrifice, which would have ended the Myers family bloodline. However, Tommy Doyle intervened on their ceremony and used the power of ancient runes of light and protection to defeat Michael.
I'd take no motive over that convoluted mess.
Same with Jason Voorhees in Friday the 13th. He kills because he's pissed. His mam killed because she was pissed at councillors and the camp, so she killed people around the camp.
When they start adding hell demons, possessing members of his bloodline and sacred daggers (9 movies in and bloodline was never mentioned before) it becomes lame.
So, killers don't need any motivation but you wrote a whole book on it? I'm not reading that.
shareCase. Point.
You don't need to read a whole book for motivations, and back story of a great horror film bad guy.
Especially if they barely had a backstory and only one motive beforehand.
What's a "Case. Point."?
shareThat's not a counter argument, that's a cop out.
Just take the L and move along.
Also:
>The original film gives us a little something. Myers kills his sister. Then, he comes back, focusing on the home where he killed his sister. A number of victims are like his sister. So, there was something of a motivation.
YOU CHANGED IT! Ha haaaaa
You said his motivation was killing people JUST LIKE HIS SISTER.
Hence, my strange reply addressing your buffoonery.
Well, it's strange now, after you changed your comment so mine doesn't line up with what you said.
Howling laughing.
Another page.
shareYour "retorts" are embarrassing. Just take the L and move on if you have nothing to say.
Not as embarrassing as you editing your replies so you don't look as dumb.
Why have a "discussion" with someone who just wants to troll? Especially when it takes 1,000 words to say what could probably be said in a sentence or two. I'm not reading something that goes on like that. Who would? I think today's horror is kind of boring. I just thought that Art is that rare interesting horror character and I want to know more about him.
shareYou're the one trolling my friend. You haven't made a single counter point yet.
You've edited your replies so you don't look silly, and you know very little about the horror genre, as your edited replies have shown.
Move along and take the L if you can't muster a counter point.
>I'm not reading something that goes on like that.
*puts fingers in ears* "Waaaah I'm not listening to you, I'm not listening to you!!!"
Run along now.
It's like you're 12 years old, found a two-decade-old manual on trolling and are convinced that everything you copy and paste from it is "fresh."
No one on here is going to read a whole page of your scribbling.
I have to edit things because you don't understand simple English.
I haven't made a single "counter point" yet because this is the boring thing on this board to have an argument about. Slasher movies are simple fun. That's it. It's like arguing about whether one blade of grass is more green than the other.
No counterpoints, only off-topic diversions and insult porn.
I think we are done here.
Just take the L and move along.
>I have to edit things because you don't understand simple English.
We know why you edited, my friend. Because you F'd up. Do I need to screenshot every reply you make?
>I haven't made a single "counter point" yet
I agree.
>Slasher movies are simple fun. That's it.
Your whole point is wanting a detailed backstory with a complicated motive for the killer.
My whole point was SIMPLE AND BEAUTIFUL!
Contradicting much??? LMAOOOOO!!!
Tourette's confirmed. You honestly need to say "Take the L" again.
shareYou edited your replies.
We both know why you did it.
Then you go on to contradict your whole argument.
You've dug your own hole and it's getting deeper.
I'm sorry to say, but insults will not "win" the day for you my friend.
>You honestly need to say "Take the L" again.
Because you just can't allow yourself to, and continue to humiliate yourself digging a deeper hole. Just end it now.
Wow
>Another page.
Another edited reply.
Notice how my response highlights the word "embarrassing" TWICE??????!!!!
Yet your response has been edited only to show
>Another page.
You even admit that you are editing! Where's the paragraph of insult porn below "Another page"? IS this website glitching, or are you going back to edit all your replies? Last time I looked, there was at least 50 words in your last reply!!!!
>I have to edit things
What a saddo. So dedicated to securing a win by being a loser.
Just take that L and move along, you sad, pathetic loser.
There was this time on the subway where I watched as this schizophrenic at the opposite end of the car sat there and mumbled to himself. Talking to you provides the same experience.
shareYou edited your replies.
We both know why you did it.
Then you go on to contradict your whole argument.
You've dug your own hole and it's getting deeper.
I'm sorry to say, but insults will not "win" the day for you my friend.
Running two threads like a mental patient. 😂 I guess they give you all computer access there in the ward.
shareMore insults, and zero content.
You lost. Take the L and move along child.
You edited your replies.
We both know why you did it. You admitted you did it.
You have no faith in your points, because you edited them all after the fact.
Then your points after that go on to contradict your whole argument, being completely opposite to the points you started out with.
You've dug your own hole and it's getting deeper.
You LOST.
Go away now, child!
>What's a "Case. Point."?
ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I'm HOWLING LAUGHING!!!!!!!!
YOU EDITED YOUR RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!
AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
YOU DID NOT REPLY WITH "What's a "Case. Point.?"
You tried to explain your garbage point about slasher villains having a complex backstory making them better.
Then you go and delete it!
You don't have any confidence in your own points.
I'm not sure if you think editing will "win" your argument, but anybody reading this will find it "funky" because you are editing all of your replies, and it's pretty obvious.
You're a moron.