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I've seen 2 Coen movies now and they were both pretentious piles of *beep*


How can the critics garble up this pretentious, and more importantly, POINTLESS *beep*

Both movies I've seen from them now (No Country for Old Men being the other) are complete trash.

They each have a bunch of scenes that could be completely removed and take away NOTHING from the film.

They even more scenes that could be shortened and take away NOTHING from the film.

They have characters that could be removed, and take away nothing.

Subplots that could be removed, and take away no enjoyment.

In fact, they should have just never made the movie.

For some reason in this industry if you try to make your characters as unlikable as possible, your plot as pointless as possible, and your ending anti-climatic as possible, critics will just suck your *beep* through a straw and call it ambrosia.

It was just completely unlikable in every way.

Seriously, *beep* all of you.

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I understand. They are ponderous. I recommend "Raising Arizona" and "Fargo". If you like those try "Miller's Crossing" and "The Hudsucker Proxy" and If you like those try "Barton Fink" -my personal favorite- and "The Big Lebowski". That one is particularly beloved by MANY Coen fans. Then I'd say, should you be inclined, try "The Man Who Wasn't There" which I found to be a very cool film, and "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" Some fans are on the fence about this one but personally I love it very much. Unless you are totally hooked by now you might want to skip "The Ladykillers" and "Intolerable Cruelty" and come back to those later. They were considered lesser efforts when they came out. One of the reasons "No Country" was received so well is that it was considered a return to form of two visionary filmmakers who were among the most influential contributors to successfully changing the look and feel of movies throughout the 80's and 90's. And with the exceptions of "No Country", "Intolerable Cruelty" "The Ladykillers" and "True Grit" all of their films are 100% original stories, not adapted from outside sources***, and with screenplays always written by them and always edited by them (under the pseudonym of Oscar winning editor Rodrick Jaynes.) This is extremely rare for American filmmakers.

Of course if you dislike those earlier films don't waste your time with the later ones. And lets not be so angry about this stuff. We all have different tastes. It shouldn't matter to us what other people think. I respect their opinions. I don't disagree with them. I just feel differently about it. If other people don't respect my opinions what do I care? How does that affect me exactly? What a waste of energy it would be going through life basing what I say and do on other people's opinions of me. Those opinions are none of my business. To get so steamed about them is just silly and a waste of my valuable time and emotions.

But back to the Coens, my only suggestion is that when you watch their earlier films it's best to consider what was going on in the world at that time and how their films reflected the modern attitudes of America, be it neo-cynicism, contemporary opinions on circumstantial living or thoughts about authority, societal viewpoints, modern moral issues, even who was in the White House at the time. This will reveal just how much the current "in your face" filmmaking style owes to the Coen Brothers.

I think I'll go watch "Blood Simple" now.

***Note: "O' Brother" was loosely adapted from Homer's "The Odyssey" but that's also part of the gag.

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Nobody forced you to watch them. If you can't handle the concept that their movies are widely loved, then that's your problem and nobody else's.

Lighten up, Francis.

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You are way to angry about this Mickey. Honestly, was that last sentence in your OP necessary? Why are you looking for a fight? Take a deep breath, stop swearing, and forget about the Coen Brothers. I don't raise a big *beep* and tell people to *beep* off just because I think TDK is wildly overrated.

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I haven't seen "No Country for Old Men" but I'd have to say "Burn After Reading" is one of their lesser films. I liked "The Big Lebowski", "Fargo", "A Serious Man" "O' Brother Where Art Thou", and "Raising Arizona". Out these films I'd think that you personally (from what little about you I know from your post) would probably/maybe like "The Big Lebowski", "O' Brother Where Art Thou" and "Raising Arizona". But would probably dislike "A Serious Man"(which I love) for the reasons you listed. So in short I say give them another go.

"In a mad world, only the mad are sane."
-Akira Kurosawa

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Wow, You're *beep* retarded. Excuse me. Ahem. You're *beep* retarded.

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I agree, these are the two least enjoyable and most pointless Coen brothers flicks. I haven't seen them all. But just watch Fargo, O Brother Where Art Thou, and The Big Lebowski. Those are good MOVIES. Have fun.

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You sir are a fantastic troll. Kudos.

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