I kind of enjoyed the film apart from Juno talking unlike any 16 year old I've ever seen. I think that by making Juno a real character the movie woud have been much more powerful. I cant understand why they made her a 16 year-old gag-spouting, care-free person. Thats a fantasy character.....
I'm a sixteen year old girl - although admitedly not American - and people have compared by speech and mannerisms to Juno (although I am not nearly as charming or funny). I know other teenagers talk simmilarly; practically all teenagers develop some kind of idiosyncratic speech pattern or sayings that are individual to them, it's a way of defining yourself from the crowd, so I don't think Juno's speech is at all out of keeping with reality. I don't think Juno is a fantasy character, people like her exist, just not many of them. Plus, I've never met any 30 or 40 year olds who talk like her - if you did wouldn't you just be thinking that they were some ridiculous overgrown child?
Anyway, even if we say it isn't realistic, we don't always want to watch people being everyday and ordinary, sometimes we want escapism and a bit of fantasy - I mean, isn't that what film is all about?
IIRC from my "wonderful" years as a teen, the teens who try to so desperately as Juno does to be different in the ways they talk and dress are insecure and unsure of who they really are.
The only scenes in which I had any good feelings about Juno are when she told her dad and stepmon she was pregnant, wrote the note to Vanessa, told Bleeker she was in love with him when she wept after giving birth. These are the only times she dropped her guard and shook off her "I'm so cool" mantel. Everthing else was fake posturing.
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I'm so glad I'm not the only person who feels this way. She's constantly spouting out opinions about bands and movies and all kinds of things that would have been popular before she was born. And she speaks with such authority! Yeah the music of the 70s is way better than the music of the 90s...the girl's never even been to an actual concert!
Then she's already developed a preference for different guitar makers and can identify the type of wood one's been made of? Come on. I could understand it if her parents were really into music so she would have been exposed to it all growing up... but it kinda comes out of nowhere. It really kills the realism of the story.
Then she's already developed a preference for different guitar makers and can identify the type of wood one's been made of? Come on.
Excuse me, a reality check is in order--members of the rock band The Runaways (which Juno cites as one of her favorites) were performing in concerts and cutting a first record when they were Juno's age. So this isn't a stretch at all.
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I mean, I liked the Beatles when I was a kid, but they're kind of ubiquitous.
She's a fan of more obscure music, again from a good 20 years before she was born. It would make more sense if they'd showed that her mom or dad had been really into that music, or that *someone* in her life had introduced her to it. I just don't see her, on her own, somehow digging through several decades of music and developing an authoritative opinion on which eras were superior to others.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that yeah it makes her sound like a 30 year old. Or rather it makes her sound more like a 30/40 year old's idea of what a quirky-cool teenaged girl would be than what an actual quirky-cool teenaged girl would be.
I just don't see her, on her own, somehow digging through several decades of music and developing an authoritative opinion on which eras were superior to others.
And yet, she clearly did.
I'm sure that there are lot of "hip" teenage girls who are into older music/films. You could argue that there are girls who don't speak like "Honest to blog" but to say that it's unrealistic for a "quirky" teen not to like some old music or films is silly. I know quite a teenage girls who watch foreign films for example. When I was younger than Juno I was well aware of Lewis and Argento. It's not beyond belief that there are teenagers whose interests go beyond the mainstream.
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Well, I think there are a lot of teens who are way cooler than others than just go "Yeah, Like, whatever!!!" Smart, witty people come in all ages. 10 years ago I was Juno's age and had a couple of classmates who were Junoish...Sure, I wanted to punch them in the face sometimes, but it was better than the airheaded bimbos. I agree, Juno's talk can be a pain sometimes, but I don't think it's unrealistic. I was watching TV with my 16 year old brother, Juno was on and asked him the same question. He seemed to agree with me, claiming he knows some girls who are sarcastic and seem "smarter" than your usual Regina George??? (I'm sorry, couldn't think of other character) Anyway, I watched Easy-A the other day and Olive seemed smart, funny and sarcastic, but not in a Juno way, which is more annoying.
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I saw the movie for the first time recently. I was showing it to a class of 11th grade girls, as a sub teacher. One of them made the comment beforehand, real people don't talk like that. This presumably target audience of the film were distinctly unimpressed with it.
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napfeny wrote: "Well, I think there are a lot of teens who are way cooler than others than just go "Yeah, Like, whatever!!!" Smart, witty people come in all ages."
Yes, and they're incredibly annoying because they're too young to realize how inane and transparently forced their sarcasm really is. Like Juno. Annoying and unfunny. Sarcasm as a defining personality trait is a bad thing.
I think we are all forgetting this is a MOVIE, not a film, this isn't based on the girl's life, its just entertainment. Now not everyone will like it but we all just have to accept that our opinions are different. The comment about 70's music is really ignorant, i'm 21 but at a young age all my dad played was 70s music!! I Still listen to it, and i happen to think that the 70s was the best period for music, hell anything before 2,000...