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Does this really happen in USA?


Im a 16 year old girl and i live in scotland, and i have to admit that the bullying that goes on in most of scottish schools is really nothing like whats shown in this film. Nothing is really schemed or planned by girls to bully other girls. Girls just tend to bitch behind eachothers back but be nice to the person in real life, and nobody really acts on what they say. Its only some girls that shout abuse at others, but nothing really on a large scale, and nothing so calculated as shown in this film!

Does this actually happen to people in America whats shown in this film?

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Yep it happens all the time, Part of why I"m opposed to the existence of Public Schools.

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^^^ It probably happens more a private schools. More rich stuck up b******.

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absolutely, this stuff happens all the time and worse. i saw all kinds of mental torture in highschool, girls trying to break each other apart until there was nothing left. the worst i ever saw was my cousin on my dad's side. a group of girls was so jelous of her because she was very pretty without any makeup. they had her meet them and stabbed her to death, 16 wounds mostly on her face.
and this was in public school, in a small town in ohio

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Horrible was a movie based on that? It sounded a lot like A killer Among Friends with Tiffany Thiessan.

Anyway thats just terrible, this movie just shows you how cruel girls are, look at Mean GIrls. Guys are about violence girls are about Gossip which in my opinion is worst than violence.

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That's... inconceivably horrible. I'm so sorry to hear such a thing happened. =(

First of all.. private schools aren't all 'rich snobby' kids. I was in a parochial school, and most of us worked part-time to pay for our schooling, etc. Being a fat chick (which is the lowest common denominator -anywhere-), I didn't have dates, or guys calling me unless it was to whine about other girls. I settled into my role as 'one of the guys', and despite a really awful Junior year, when the teasing was pretty bad, I had a good enough time. I just had my 15 year reunion last year, so it's been a while, and we were pretty much all raised to know better than to torture people. Girls were quite cruel when I was growing up, but more like talk behind your back, or chide you in another language type of cruel.. or worst of all, being your 'friend' at school, but then never asking you to do anything outside of it.

That rant aside, my husband is a high school teacher in a public school now. He's 8 years younger than I am, so he's pretty 'with it' </dr evil> and able to keep his finger on the pulse of the place. There are petty incidents, but the only real biggie was a couple of girls getting into a feud, and the one (a fat chick, go figure), spreading a rumor that the other was a lesbian. So.. yeah, my husband just took a class period to approach the many topics that brought up, about accepting people of all lifestyles/races/creeds, educating the kids on the consequences of bullying their peers, etc. Then, about a month later, he had to help soothe the wounds of the former bully, when someone else teased her about being fat. In her case, being a bright girl, she learned her lesson.. albeit the hard way.

In essence, cruelty continues.. it's always been there, and always will be, particularly amongst the female population. The very girls that everyone envies, for their beauty, are often the most insecure about themselves, my latter life experience has taught me. I know that things like this happen, especially given the tech savvy kids today, but I think it's still the same old 'talk behind her back', and 'give her that little smirk that makes her feel really uncomfortable', for the most part, rather than the elaborately designed hoaxes as in this flick. If I find it again, I might hit record so that hubby can show it in his classroom. I tend to think they'll view it as a little over the top.

As for me, being a fat chick ended up being an 'idiot filter'. I've ended up being surrounded by brilliant, amazing people, who know that in the end, most people are going to pack on some pounds, or anyone might find themselves disabled or disfigured in some manner, but it's what's in a person's mind and spirit, and how they choose to relate to others with respect and dignity that matters. So, I hope that's what more kids have the opportunity to learn.

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At least this movie wasn't about some guy beating up on some chick.

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That's just horrible! I'm so sorry about your cousin. What a horrific thing to have happened.

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it happened to me. college was such a relief.

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In a response to somebody's post in the end of this thread, yes, finally, this is a movie where a guy doesn't beat up a chick! I agree on that!

Anyways, unfortuately, when I was in high school, I was moderately a bully. I am a deaf student and I was a part of a deaf program. There was a girl that we all grew up with, her family is very poor. She never had new clothes, never showered, or never groomed herself. But anyways, because she was so weird, I tortured her along with everyone else. Last year, she died of lung collapse I think, and I felt bad that I was mean to her back in high school.
Now, about 5 to 9 years later, I love people with special needs/attention to death. I have changed because I finally understood that it is not person's fault that the way they are (sometimes).

While I was the bully, I also was bullied by several freshmen girls while I was in junior. I don't know but we had fights two times over a table in the lunch room. they would throw food at my friends and I. We ignored them. I just thought it was funny.
but anyways, Gabriel, yes, things like this happen at high school.

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Being a high school senior in the US, I'd have to say that yes, indeed stuff like this does happen. Girls are cruel, and vicious creatures a lot of the time, mainly to each other.... =\

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Really? Bullying does exist in english schools, but not in every single one. In every american film I have seen, the main character gets bullied and finds it hard to fit in. I think that all american schools are like this, and if your ever so, ever so lucky , when you go to an american school, you will get one friend :)

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I think it happens everywhere.....


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It can be this bad or even worse as I had been on the receiving end of bullying back when. The scene that I felt was unrealistic was when the protagonist (main character) was invited to a 'party' at an abandoned warehouse or whatnot, and no one was there when typically the girls would perhaps (as horrible as it is) be there to laugh at her or taunt her some more, know what I mean. It's all meant to break the person's spirit and it's just despicable what people will do to others, namely females.

A tragic case of bullying that involved two males, one was being bullied and the other the bully, was when a young middle schooler named Jared actually took his own life due to the bullying. It's called Bullycide, when the person is bullied to the point where they commit suicide as the case of 'Cybercide' of Megan whose former friend's mother made believe that she was a teenage guy and then started bullying her online. Jared's mother has dedicated her life to help prevent bullying and created a site in his honor and memory: Jared's Story: http://www.jaredstory.com

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wow, I'm actually really surprised this stuff happens, maybe i've seena downgraded version of this, but I have never seen anything to this extent, and the movie has always made me mad because I dont think its really this bad...

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Yes, it does. I underwent something similar to this when I was in middle school. I switched schools when entering high school but it has taken me years to get over the damage from middle school.

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