Are you serious? This movie is not realistic AT ALL.
And I'm in high school.
This movie is garbarge and the farthest thing from reality.
And I'm in high school.
This movie is garbarge and the farthest thing from reality.
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U guys gotta be *beep* me. Of course things like this happen in high school, just because it didn't happen to u it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. My best friend was close to committing suicide in high school because other girls constantly picked on her for being over weight and "unpopular". The day I graduated was the best day of my life, it was a relief.
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-Jim Carrey
I take it you've never been bullied, then, because the point of this film is to show what bullying can lead to and how it can lead to it.
I was in high school too and I did actually go through this and as a girl who has been bullied by other girls, I found myself relating to Vanessa's situation quite a lot. I will grant that some of the things that the other girls do to her are a bit over-the-top, but believe it or not, that is actually how some teenagers act: they'll tell someone to kill themselves and think it a joke, they'll laugh at someone crying because it makes them feel stronger, they like to be in power and they'll do whatever they want to make someone's life miserable so that they'll feel powerful.
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You know, I seriously can’t believe you would say something like that. This movie is completely not realistic at all?? Let me just tell you straight up that Odd Girl Out sometimes wasn’t even near the completely ugly reality of just how bad bullying can be.
To start off with, you seriously need to know that there ARE children out there who get bullied to death; for some of these kids, the bullying gets so goddamn bad and so way out of hand that some of those kids end up committing suicide. Before I ever heard of Megan Meier and before I watched a program called E! Investigates: Bullying, I had no idea that bullying could have such a HUGE impact like that on these kids. I assume that most of the kids who committed suicide had very low self-esteem and such an inferiority complex. If a victim of bullying has very low self-esteem, they might be headed for a world of trouble.
I’d also like to add that when a person is being bullied, most people say they shouldn’t let the bully win by not showing up at school, but sometimes it’s in that person’s best interest to stay home and cool off, and during that time, their family could be taking care of the situation with either going to the principal about the problem or arranging to take the bully to court.
I thought it was a complete OUTRAGE that there were mothers who lost their children due to bullying. I thought it must have been beyond traumatic for them to have their kids commit suicide. I thought it was just absolutely terrible, especially seeing that there was a book dedicated to mothers who lost their children because of bullying. Those mothers did NOT deserve that at all, and they did NOT deserve to go through that. I hope to God that the bullies who caused the mothers to lose their kids feel a huge shard of guilt at the base of their throats and that they burn in Hell for all eternity.
I heard on that E! program (And I really hope you’ve caught that program yourself, too) that 34 children commit suicide after being cyber bullied, but I‘ve also learned from watching this other sort of news program that 5,000 children attempt suicide after being bullied period. I have no idea whether or not those statistics happen per year or whatever time. But just think that as pretty much nothing is being done about this bullying issue and that the proper action is not being taken, those numbers might just increase.
I’ll share a little story with you. As many people might not know, I live in Pensacola, Florida, and of course there is a school called Pensacola High School or PHS. I never ever went to that school myself, because of all the terrifying stories I’ve heard and the things that may have happened there. But I’ve heard that there were these two young girls, both African-American or black as you might call them. I have no idea what their names were, and maybe I ought to look them up, but one of the girls was obviously really bright, intelligent and focused on getting her education and achieving her goals. She was being bullied really badly by this other girl, who was obviously extremely insecure and jealous of her. This bully picked on this nice girl really bad, and I can imagine that it went on for a long time and got way out of hand, and the next thing that happened, the bully girl stabbed and killed her victim at a bus stop. She was tried as an adult for murder and is now spending the rest of her life in prison, and she damn well deserves it.
And have you even freaking heard of the Megan Meier story?? A girl named Megan Meier committed suicide because she was being cyber-bullied, and to THINK that it may have been caused by these ADULT women. I forgot the women‘s names, but even though the article on the “Megan Meier Foundation” website said that the women asked that their names not be revealed, I did hear them mentioned on that show “Fatal Beauty - 15 Most Notorious Women.” Laurie Drew and Ashley Grills were their names, though I am not sure whether or not they are real names, like if the names had been changed to protect their identities. But anyway, Laurie Drew, her daughter, and her employee Ashley Grills, supposedly made a fake Myspace profile of a boy named Josh Evans, and this “Josh” was really sweet to Megan and would always compliment her on the way she looked. He really made Megan feel incredibly great about herself. However, after a while, Josh wanted to leave Megan for being a mean person to her friends, and soon there were bulletins on Myspace that called Megan fat and a slut and all these sorts of mean things. It is so freaking corrupt that even adults can be responsible for bullying when we’re supposed to go to them for help when it happens.
Laurie Drew was the mother of a young girl who Megan had an on and off relationship with in the seventh grade, and whom Megan decided to cut off all ties with completely. Laurie created that fake Myspace just to find out what Megan Meier really thought of her daughter and what things she was saying about her. But I thought it so freaking immature that she created this fake Myspace just for that reason and would not even admit to it later on after the girl committed suicide; she told another neighbor’s daughter, who was involved in the fake Myspace scam, not to mention the whole thing as Megan was being dragged off by paramedics. To me, that’s total premeditation. She knew she was doing a wrong thing, and she was trying to hide it.
To do a quick recap, Megan Meier struggled with depression and her weight. It was quite obvious that she had very low self-esteem. She thought about committing suicide in the third grade and went to therapy for it. The thing with that was this ex-friend of Megan and her mother knew about Megan’s emotional struggles, and it was totally like they were truly trying to hurt her with the Myspace incident.
Tina Meier, Megan’s mom, should have signed out of Myspace and blocked this “Josh” person before taking her other daughter to the orthodontist, yet she stayed logged in and kept telling Megan to log out of it, when she knew Megan most likely wouldn’t log out. I probably would have been furious, too if I were her mother and she wouldn’t sign off Myspace for Christ’s sake, but I agree with what Megan said about her mother needing to be on her side rather than being angry at her.
It’s extremely terrible that this girl died so young. She was barely 14.
NO criminal charges were filed against Laurie Drew for contributing to the cause of Megan Meier’s death. I really don’t think there are laws that can arrest a person if they emotionally hurt another person to the point that they may want to commit suicide. But I seriously think that bitch Laurie Drew should spend the rest of her life in prison and burn to a crisp in Hell. It’s like she indirectly killed Megan. She WAS the CAUSE of Megan Meier's suicide.
You ought to read the entire story here: http://www.meganmeierfoundation.org/story/
You also really need to click here and watch this video. It’s a video of two girls fighting, and the PARENTS who are egging it on. And you call this unrealistic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeVQjJtwjr0
And I know you’ve heard about that young girl with the red hair, who everyone called a “Ginger.” I know you’ve heard about how this “Kick a Ginger” Day was scheduled over Facebook; and that’s another damn thing that can trigger a lot of bullying, the internet. That poor little girl for no reason literally got kicked by a lot of people in school that day. And the entire thing was inspired by the show South Park, and you have to admit that South Park sometimes goes insanely too damn far with the things they do. Hell, after that one episode where they had to censor Mohammed, there was a death threat from this Muslim website after they aired the episode.
Then there was this boy named Dylan who was bullied so badly over some incredibly stupid rumor that he masturbated in a bathroom, which wasn’t even true. The bullying got SO freaking bad, and it was all over a stupid reason. Everybody hated him and treated him SO bad, just hated him insanely as if he did something extremely terrible. And his high school called Tonganoxie didn’t do much of a damn thing about it according to his parents, which I’ll get to in a minute. But hell, even his own mother implied that if she hadn’t taken any action sooner, Dylan might have committed suicide. I also thought it was insanely stupid of those kids to pick on Dylan when he took Tae Kwon Do classes and could have probably kicked their asses. I know I wanted to beat the *beep* out of all the people who messed with me in high school, but the only thing that kept me from doing that was getting in trouble. I thought it was incredibly sad that Dylan was forced to drop out of high school and miss his prom and graduation all because these kids picked on him badly over an insanely stupid reason. Rather than get his high school diploma like he should have, he had to work on his G.E.D. But, I really couldn’t see why his parents couldn’t transfer him to another school.
A young girl named Phoebe Prince was driven to suicide. She was called an Irish whore and an Irish slut all by some girls who were incredibly jealous that she dated a senior. She had a drink thrown at her head, and the girls told her to kill herself, and that‘s exactly what she did. How insanely racist the way the bullies picked on her. Phoebe wasn’t really alone, though. She did have friends and classmates by her side. But it’s sad that the young girl’s no longer alive right now.
Around the beginning of the E! program, a boy named Michael Brewer was burned by his bullies. You call that unrealistic?
And then there was this one certain son of a bitch who said that people can say whatever the hell they want to other people (he pulled that freedom of speech crap), and that those people shouldn’t take those things to heart. Bull *beep* A person has no freaking right hurting another one’s feelings. I’ve heard the saying “Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can’t hurt.” Newsflash: words can hurt and they do! Words can tear apart a person’s emotions.
For a person who has been bullied, it most often causes changes in their behavior, which parents ought to look for just in case their kids might be getting bullied, and if they don‘t do a damn thing about it soon, their kids might end up killing themselves.
Children can bully other children over the most insanely stupid things. When it comes to different groups of people, I must say that teenagers are the absolute worst. As if humans aren’t that bad, teenagers are the absolute worst of the entire species. They can be totally insane, completely psychotic and very much stupid. I never believed that it can go that far, but bullies can be very heartless and extremely relentless. Most of them don’t give a flying rat’s ass about other people’s feelings and just how bad it might hurt them and the toll it will eventually take on them.
It really pisses me off that most schools don’t do a damn thing about bullying. The high school that I went to would totally fit in that category. I tried to be nice to everybody, yet I got bullied by so many people. I guess you could say I was sort of a pushover, because I never really did anything about it. Now, I know I’m not innocent and I know I’m not guilty; if I did bring it upon myself for people to harass me, I never did it on purpose. Since so many people kept picking on me, the deans just didn’t do a damn thing about it when I kept going to them, because they were convinced that I was just as much to blame. It is truthfully honest that the deans at my school did not care at all what was happening; they just didn‘t want to deal with it.
The deans and administrators didn’t give a rat’s ass about us students, and that's a total fact. We had a lot of problems at our school where students just kept doing certain things, and the deans just kept enforcing all these rules to stop students from doing those certain things, and sometimes I felt that those rules were designed to further get students into trouble. There were a lot of kids besides me who had problems, personal problems, and I don’t think there were even guidance counselors to freaking help; as far as I knew, all those guidance counselors did was talk about what classes we were taking. The school didn’t try to help us with our problems or try to get to the root of them, they just kept enforcing all these rules.
I totally wish I had taken more action when I was bullied. I wish I had stood up for myself a lot more. And I hated kids my age so much, I hate a lot of kids period, that I would never want to work in a school or be a teacher. NO way! I have NO likeness or any patience with most kids. If I had to work in a school, then I’d want to be a mean, strict dean and discipline these kids’ asses, especially if they’re doing things such as bullying.
I was really pissed off that this one gentleman on the E! program said that a person can face severe punishment for not reporting bullying, which I think is totally screwed up. As if the victims aren’t going through enough trouble already.
I’d also like to know why in God’s name bullying happens mostly in these really great communities according to that E! program? I can’t understand that.
I honestly think there needs to be incredibly severe punishments for bullying. I heard that 41 states of the U.S. have anti-bullying laws when it’s quite clear that the rest of the nine states should have them, too.
The E! program centered mostly on the victims who got bullied, but at times I did ask myself why on earth do some people bully in the first place. Some of them are totally insecure and jealous, and they choose the easiest targets, the people who might seem weak. The bullies are hurting on the inside, they don’t get enough love from family and probably get treated like total crap from their families. Most of the times, bullies take their personal problems out on other people; it’s not really about that bully’s personal feelings for their victim. I also blame the goddamn parents. And someone in that program mentioned that a bully ought to be just the hero to the victim. Yeah, right! Keep on dreaming.
you're a moron. stuff like this DOES happen. i was bullied by my entire class when i was in 7th grade just because i didn't think any of the guys in my grade were cute.
i like these clothes i like this hair, it's not emo it's not anything ¬¬
I have been out of High School nearly 20 years now, and I was bullied like this! A boy liked me and not my friend, I did not do anything with this boy but man did the girls attack me! I was called slut, whore, bitch by everyone! All it took was a couple girls to turn the whole class against me! Of course we did not have cell phones or internet like today, but they made my life hell! I will never go to a class reunion! EVER!
shareAre you serious? Not realistic? Two words: Phoebe Prince.
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I'm very grateful, I went to an enormous, enormous high school (over 5,000 kids!) Very easy to fly under the radar and do my own thing.
In middle school, I remember being, well bullied wasn't quite the world, let's say tormented non stop by this one kid. We got in a mini fight smack in the middle of homeroom one day, and after the teacher put us actually next to each other so we'd have no choice but to deal with it.
Nothing like the movie, it was never that bad. But I can easily imagine this happening, especially with the computer. Back in the old days, you were bullied in the playground, now, it follows you everywhere.. Phone, computer, facebook, myspace, IM, whatever else there is out there.
Was bullying always this big an issue in other generations?
Yeah I remember being bullied and I remember bullying others out of insecurity. I think this movie is pretty revlevant since in the news you hear about young people killing themselves over bullying. Like the Pheobe Prince girl, bless her heart.
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yep I agree, the more I think about it the more its easy to see it must be worse now days due to the internet and technology.
Also especially as I think teachers can be scared too, since discipline procedures now days are very soft, no cane etc. I started school I think a few years after the cane got canned in the 80s.
I have to disagree. Something like this happened to me in eighth grade, to a slightly lesser degree. But the girls I sat with at lunch would say mean things about me to my face and make up rumors. They would call my house and hang up. They made up screennames (because AIM was in its last years of relevancy) and would pretend to be other people and say things. Actually, they even tried to pull the "fake birthday party" thing like in this movie. I didn't fall for it though.
Luckily I had friends other than the ones who turned on me and was able to move on in high school, although there were mean girls there too. You couldn't pay me to go back to those days!
But yes, things like this do happen. This movie was not at all unrealistic. Kids can be cruel.
I was bullied just like in this movie, except I was in 8th grade. People who say this movie is unrealistic are wrong because I went through this. It started with two girls who ended up poisoning a bunch of people against me, including all my friends. Every class I was in had at least one of the people who were bullying me. I would always hear them saying things about me, and they would throw stuff (like gum wrappers) at me. The teachers never did anything, no matter how many times my mom went to the school. I was cyber bullied by these people when I was home too. A bunch of them would IM me and say mean stuff so I had to change my screenname. I skipped school and class all the time (just like Vanessa did in the movie) to avoid these people. I ended up failing the grade. I couldn't concentrate in class, so my grades plummeted. I ended up switching schools.
shareYes, this is realistic. It's even worse now because of all the social networking outlets available to teenagers these days. My sister is bullied in school AND online constantly because of the way she dresses and does her hair. She is called names and I see anonymous people posting online on her websites saying hateful things to her. In school she gets shoved into and whispered about, pointed at, laughed at. She wants to go to cyber school this year but I fear that it won't make her problems go away because there is still so many places for the bullies to harass her online. It all started when my sister met a new friend (who also goes to cyber school so she isn't in my sister's school with her to defend her against the bullies) and her old friends from elementary/middle school turned on her, and they were all ran by their "queen bee" just like in the movie. It even goes as far as there being one girl who is like a "Stacey" to my sister and acts like she's her friend but then will join in with the girls making fun of her to fit into the "cool group." So yeah, it happens.
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