Only thing that bother me about the movie, how can in this universe they expect you to believe you can buy a bot for that cheap, seems like everyone who wanted one could of taken out a 60 month loan to buy one for whatever they wanted...
shareI know, right! 45K? That's a REAL STEAL!!! OHHHH!!!
shareWhen he bought that robot for 45k, they went out of their way to mention what an amazing deal they were getting. So, a possibly stolen robot could go for dirt cheap, I can see it.
Now, to those saying that a robot would be cheap in the future, you are wrong. While computers and phones might be geometrically more powerful than the ones 20 years ago and cost next to nothing comparatively, we aren't talking about a phone or a computer. Sure, that robot might have a computer brain but it's the big assed metal chassis that is gonna cost you. You are buying an armored bipedal chassis loaded with inertial sensors, optics and tons of expensive servos. That robot would still cost a fortune for the same reason a Mercedes does, it is made of precision metal and machinery.
I don't think there's anything unrealistic about a $45,000 asking price, it may even be a little high.
All the robots are is a combination of durable electric motors, wiring and pistons connected to a simple metal frame, with a plastic or sheet metal spray painted exterior housing a computer and battery, it's a pretty simple machine when you break it down.
For a new car, which is a much more mechanically complex machine, likely featuring all of the above in addition to a high powered engine engine and related machinery, cooling systems for both the engine and the passengers, transmission, extensive safety systems, etc, you'd be looking at anywhere between $20,000 - $60,000 today for a brand new one.
Hell, the raw materials to build one of these things would probably only set you back like $10,000, even less from a scrapyard and most of that money is going to go into the computer and software.
If you want to complain about realism, the maneuverability and durability of the robots in relation to their size is the problem, not how much they cost.
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Yeah 45k is realistic for a bot if they are a common item...........
you telling me you could not get a 2002 BMW for 45K? of course..... you could actually get one for under 10K.
Think about it.
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Most people here are aware of the concept of "Inflation" just fine.
Just that if movies that are based roughly on the real world differ somewhat, there is an expectation that the movie will address it - it could just be a single line (or a 10 minute exposition) hinting why robots are so cheap.
While I'm perfectly fine with never knowing why, I can understand why some people think $45k for an advanced robot less than 10 years into the future is hard to swallow.
I still don't understand? How is that Hard to Swallow?
If everyone understand inflation and economic principals in regards to trade, how do they not get this?
Lets say the bot was 500k ten years before.
ten years later it is valued for sale at 45k. So roughly about a value of 1/10 of original worth.
comparison.......
a 2002 Mercedes s600 was about 115k brand new in 2002
Now ten years later, in 2012, a 2002 Mercedes s600 goes for about 13 - 15k........
Do the math.
45K for a ten year old bot seems completely accurate of a number to me.
I did the 'math'. The bot was a champion kept in spotless condition.
Your example would certainly not hold up if that particular 2002 Mercedes s600 was involved in winning a prestigious racing title. It would be considered a collector's item in certain circles. Any other S600 may arguably be worth only 10% of its price (in the real world that's not how it works, but I'm just working with your logic here), but this car is not 'any other S600'.
And yes we are absolutely arguing fictional movie logic here, only that the counterarguments do not make sense either.
There is no argument man.
I'm just saying Machines are machines. Technology gets cheaper as it gets older. Late model stuff is always cheaper. It does not mean it is useless, just old TECHNOLOGY.
Computers, cars, ROBOTS....... whatever. It makes perfect sense.
I do agree with the collectors item idea, but rationally I could see that being negated as it pertains to fighting. Much like real life fighters, they become old and forgotten when they start to lose. So in the movie's world maybe that's how it is too, people remember the bots, but no one is too eager to put their money up for them when they could get newer tech (ie... a younger fighter).
Well, they did do some exposition in the movie about how Noisy Boy had been through quite a few hands between his start in the legitimate league in Japan and Charlie finally buying him. Some of which(the movie only named the Brazilians)put him in hardcore, underground fighting matches(hence illegal). Having that kind of reputation probably brought down his cost too.
This is where mechanical excellence and 1,400 horsepower pays off.
1.A Robot for Hugh Jackman Cheracter was an "easy"(he thougth so cause he was a bragging prick who refuse to learn from his mistakes. a car can't produce money.
2.For me it was preety obvious that the economy was diffrent this days as someone already said here.
A car can't produce money? You're retarded.
sharethey said it was still an older bot (you gotta understand the technology is probably advancing rapidly), was a black market deal, hadnt been in the US in 2 yrs, they didn't even know the condition of it or anything on it. seems like a fair deal to me, not like it was top of the line or anything and its also a second hand deal.
you can compare it to cars. i can go buy a new $200k Lambo or I can get a 10 yr old Ferrari used from someone trying to get rid of it for like $50k.
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Um... did you see the remote they were using to control Noisy Boy? Did you see the "remotes" they were using to control Twin Cities? That's why he's not worth more than 45k.
Older models lose value for a reason. It's why a computer that would cost 3000 5 years ago could be bought for hundreds of dollars today. It's why an Iphone 1 cost $600 when it came out and costs significantly less today.
I think it's more of a 'story necessity'. This is about a guy trying to make ends meet. It's only realistic that he can make money with this robot business if robots are somewhat affordable. If he had to pay a couple of million bucks each time he needed a robot or robot parts, the story just wouldn't have worked.
shareI agree. Jackman wouldn't have been able to afford to buy the bot if the price was higher. But $45k is a ridiculous number, and people comparing it to the price of a used car are making the wrong comparison. These robots probably cost tens of millions of dollars to make. This is like saying you could buy an old fighter jet for $45k. Also, I was expecting to see Noisy Boy a complete mess and it comes out of the box in brand new condition. Even if he was stolen, it seems too cheap. Also it was way too convenient that Atom was simply recharged, cleaned up, and he worked. And then I thought that the eccentric Japanese designer's interest in Atom was going to be because it was the first robot that he designed! There would be no other reason for his partner to offer $200k for it. Maybe that will be revealed if there is a sequel.
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I don't have 45k, do you? It's not exactly pocket change.
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who knows what is the real value of 45k at that time? you're talking like it's the same 45k that you have today. besides, he can even tried to build a robot using junk parts, so it just means that a robot really wouldn't cost much.
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