When Andy illegibly tries to rape her again in the janitors closet did you feel bad when she basically blinded him? I know what he did was terrible and he was abusing her but she could deff damage him forever...i felt bad even though what he did was HORRIBLEEEEE
what do you think?
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No, I didn't feel bad for him at all.
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But no, I didn't feel bad. If no one had come in I'd like to think she'd have cut out his tongue or throat with that piece of glass she was holding. F-cking bastard.
I've got another confession to make... I'm your fool
Melinda had grabbed a bottle of some sort of aerosol and sprayed it in his face. He'll probably see again.
I did not feel bad for Andy. He was just asking for it when he attacked Melinda.
That makes sense. Yeah, I'm sure he'd have been okay before too long.
I've got another confession to make... I'm your fool
I hope your comments were tongue in cheek, because I can't believe you would actually feel sorry for that raping piece of crap. I was hoping the girls with the hockey sticks would beat the crap out of him.
shareTo be honest, I do feel sort of bad for Andy. The book Andy was a complete bastard who DOES try to rape her in the janitor closet again, but as we know Melinda gets away. But, the movie Andy, I sort of felt bad for the guy. When he raped Melinda, I personally think the guy was completely drunk out of his mind and probably didn’t understand what he was fully doing. Hence, throughout the year, he tries to talk to her and make amends—even going as far as standing up for Melinda at lunch during the Halloween scene.
I know people ‘can’t condone rape,’ and I’m not trying to. I’m just saying perhaps Andy wasn’t the complete and utter bastard that everyone labels him as.
Why would you think he was "trying to make amends"? What about the way he taunted her in the hallway early on the school year? It was pretty clear to me Andy didn't think he'd done anything wrong at all. Plus, look at the way he treated Rochelle, like in the hallway when he covers her mouth and tells her to shut up when she questions him about why he left her waiting, and then when he calls her a bitch a couple of scenes later when she merely questions him about his involvement with Melinda. Obviously, he's not someone who has alot of respect for females at all, and I'm willing to bet Melinda was not the first girl he raped.
sharei was listening to the director and book author commentaries today, and during the scene where Andy finds Melinda in the art room, the commentary from the director was (and i paraphrase): "when i directed him, i also wanted him to be really human. i told him was that as far as you are concerned, that night was just a night that got a little out of control. he doesn't know that he raped her. that makes it much more realistic." he also "senses from the cafeteria scene that something was wrong, and that he was checking in with the only way he knows how." the director goes on to say that "it was important that we cast someone who is not an obvious jock/jerk."
so in effect, he really WAS trying to make amends. you can basically see it in those two scenes: he defended Melinda after she ran off while he leaned against her, and the last words he said to Melinda: "...I was wondering if..." just before Rachel jumped in.
Being drunk is no excuse for raping someone. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he stood up for her so that everyone would have his back in case she told anyone? That's what happened to me. The guy wasn't drunk, but I was drowsy on medication, and he took advantage of a situation. After I reported it, all his friends came to my room to tell me to change my story, that he was such a nice guy that there is no way he would do something like that.
Besides, how do you explain the second time when he ambushed her in the closet?
Anyone who forces him or her self onto someone else against their consent for any reason is a complete and utter bastard.
Ahenz, I'm so sorry you went through that.
sharehe deserved everything he got. however i liked it better in the book when she held the mirror up to his throat and he was "mute" just like she had been the entire book. but the whole bleach in the face thing was genius. i can't believe someone would say that you feel sorry for a rapist.
shareHell no I didn't even feel sorry for loser Andy he totally deserve what Melinda did to him
1 Andy knew what he was going do to Melinda at the party when he kept refilling her cup
2 Andy knew what did Melinda back of his car was wrong that he cover her mouth keep her from scream
3 who give damn if Andy go blind he deserve
4 Melinda innocent was taken away from her
5 Melinda will remember what happen to her for the rest of her life
D.H.F.F
Now end of day and Iam the Reaper:Silent hill
"i was listening to the director and book author commentaries today, and during the scene where Andy finds Melinda in the art room, the commentary from the director was (and i paraphrase): "when i directed him, i also wanted him to be really human. i told him was that as far as you are concerned, that night was just a night that got a little out of control. he doesn't know that he raped her. that makes it much more realistic." he also "senses from the cafeteria scene that something was wrong, and that he was checking in with the only way he knows how." the director goes on to say that "it was important that we cast someone who is not an obvious jock/jerk."
He was directed to act in that fashion,"when i directed him, i also wanted him to be really human. i told him was that as far as you are concerned, that night was just a night that got a little out of control. he doesn't know that he raped her.", because that IS how typical rapists think, they DON'T recognize they've committed a crime, in their eyes, their victims "wanted" it to happen, that's the whole point and why it doesn't seem reasonable to me to think Andy was trying to make amends. He DIDN'T feel he'd done anything WRONG, which is why he is puzzled by Melinda's behavior. It was pretty clear by Andy's behavior toward Rochelle, that he didn't have much in the way of respect for females, that is the very nature of a rapist, they have control issues with women. It's very unlikely Melinda was Andy's first victim, nor would she have been his last.
Um, most rapists know exactly what they're doing; many are sadists, control freaks, woman-haters. But I guess you're right about this kind: they're the selfish kind, the "I didn't do anything wrong, she was just uncertain" kind. They're one of the most pathetic kinds of trash "humans" in the world, because they damn well SHOULD know better and they treat women as lesser beings.
Having said this, Andy did know what he was doing. The director apparently failed. Big time.
Illegibly?
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Aagh; you're a HEDGE!
To the OP: I don't understand all the abuse on this thread. You obviously get that rape is wrong, you're just saying that you felt sorry for the guy in that instant. Honestly, I did too. He was a scumbag and a perv, and of course what Melinda did to him is nothing compared to what he did to Melinda, but still. He was freaked out and in pain, and I felt sorry for the guy at that very moment. I was happy that Melinda had gotten at least a little revenge on her attacker though, and MOSTLY I really thought that he got what he deserved.
Andy in the book is much worse than the guy in the movie. For example, the scene in the art classroom. In the book, when he's looking for Rachel, he asks her "Anyone home? Are you deaf?" in an obnoxious way, and sits on her drawing and ruins it, just to be an a*ss. In the movie, he uses the same words, but he's almost trying to be friendly, as if he's trying to be nice to her but doesn't really know how. In the book, he harasses and taunts her constantly after the rape, and we see a little bit of that in the movie ("Fresh meat"), but also in the movie we get the sense that he never really wanted to hurt her or that he regrets what happened that night. In the book he really was just an unredeemable piece of crap, and THAT guy I wouldn't have felt sorry for one bit. I would have said she should have not only thrown bleach in his eyes but taken the shards of glass and castrated him as well, and I would have been laughing the whole time.
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Bulls**t. Just because he's "nice" to her, I don't buy it. In fact, that makes it even worse because how you can just sit there and act like you did nothing wrong... I have no sympathy for either character, jock jerk from the book or this guy from the movie. You have no idea how hard it is to see someone get away with something like that and I speak from experience. And being they were in high school and she really couldn't get away from him at times... I was scared for her, especially in the art room scene. Am I the only one that felt like he was going to try to rape her again? "Once wasn't good enough, maybe you'll get the message this time" or "I'll teach you a lesson" kind of thing. Again, no symapthy whatsoever.
Kiera
A rapist is a rapist, shrill. This is a volatile topic, hence the defensive reactions.
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