MovieChat Forums > I Heart Huckabees (2004) Discussion > Why does everyone hate this?

Why does everyone hate this?


I might be wrong but I watched this years ago on a plane and I liked it. It has that Me, You, and Everyone You know quality. But what are some negatives?

I am talking to you Jedediah, you're fired.

reply

It's not that this movie really poses new, deep questions or new philosophies or even sound versions of old philosophies. It offers philosophy (and humanity) gone awry. It's chaos. And it's funny!
You'd be dense to watch this movie and expect to extract any 'meaning of life' theory from it. You'd also be a little dense to watch this movie and think that the director was attempting to offer any real philosophy.
It's a comedy, based on fractured philosophies and not a drama in any sense.
I derive my unabashed love for it based on my empathy for these characters, who reach the end of their rope and turn to rash behavior, philosophy and 'bigger meaning' to find solace. I love the major anti establishment and socialist themes that are addressed in clever, comedic ways. I love how it all seems a little off balanced at first but by then end you see the common current of naivety (in virtually every character, save Vauban - scratch that, including Vauban), that reigns it in and lends a sense of control to the chaos. It's chaos, but it's really insignificant chaos.
I look at it as if it were a Shakespearean comedy, written for my substance riddled, Starbucks fueled generation.

reply

Im glad you enjoyed it for the right reasons - as apposed to those who like it for the reasons i stated above. I still dislike the movie a great deal. It may be one of those things that I might happen to catch late on tv one night, in the future and really enjoy it.. but, ive seen it twice now and I still haven't changed my opinion on it. but, ya never know.

Is this your homework, Larry?

reply

Yea this is one of those films were you either hate it or love it. But I got to say I loved this movie for what it is its perfect.

reply

I loved the film but that is just me. To the poster who started this thread, no, not everyone hates this film. It isn't you against the world. Interestingly, if you look at the IMDB data, it appears that the older you are, the more probable it is that you didn't like the film.

For me, the film got me thinking and was quirky/funny along the way. That's a combination of factors in a film that I am particularly attracted to. For the ones that didn't like it, that's fine. It's not necessarily that you're stupid/uneducated as some defenders of the film are saying. You just didn't like it and the reasons are different for different people.

Now, to call it pretentious is another thing. It is POSSIBLE that you didn't get it, but that may not be the whole story because I didn't get every aspect of the film either, but that isn't going to make me call it pretentious. What was pretentious about it? The subject matter? The characters in general? Well, I found that the characters were very true to life. They were all reaching out to feel connected. Even the therapists themselves, had their own conflict brewing (between the different ideologies). They weren't immune to needing to feel connected. Notice how aggresively the existentialists would pursue their subjects, especially when they disagreed with their methods. It seems a trifle against their philosophy to do so.

Also, notice how the french therapist was possessive about Albert when he expressed a desire to combine her methods with those of the existentialists. If anything, IMO, I don't see pretentiousness in any of the characters. Quirkiness, and riddled with human flaws, yes. Pretentiousness, no.

I also do tend to think of life as a modern comedy of manners, and that aspect was brought out effectively by the film. We say what we need to say to get ahead, not necessarily what we ought to say.

Another reason I liked the film so much is that I see that boards/topics like these reflect the content and the discussion that the film was trying to promote. IMO, the reason why we defend what we like or hate so much is because we want to be accepted/connected. We're just like Brad Stan in this way. Putting on fake (i.e. online) personas to put ourselves out there. We seek a connection by attaching our existence/individualism to things, like the I love this/I hate this debate. And when someone disagrees, the natural reaction is defensiveness because the other's opinion makes one feel less connected and more isolated and alone. In short, it's all about the ego.

But IMO, the film was just telling us to let all of that go. We're connected already by the mere fact that we all want to feel connected. The struggle is the same yet different for everybody because we're all human. Or, it's that life is meaningless/cruel/disconnected so why care SO MUCH about attaching ourselves to things when attachment itself does not exist.

And I'm not about to pretend that I'm above all of this. I'm human too. I wrote on this forum to attach myself to this debate. I'll also be back to check if anyone responded because I'm riddled with flaws as well. Just lending my two cents.

reply

I just read your post and felt very connected to you. :O

reply

I don't know, but judging from the box office reports, the most entertaining thing about this movie is the dueling meltdowns between Lily Tomlin & the director - which can be seen on Youtube.

reply

I wanted to like it, but found it overly pretentious.

Sounding smart and being smart aren't necessarily the same thing; listening to the dialogue of this movie strikes me as the former, and in my experience, those who really love the movie like to say "you just didn't get it" if you don't like it, which makes it easy to become further irritated with it.

I think it had very strong potential (great cast, interesting ideas) but it suffered greatly due to interminable pseudo-intellectual exchanges of dialogue.

reply

It tries way too hard to be all deep and what not. It was just annoying. It talked about things that I thought about when I was like, five. Not very intellectual at all.

reply

Did you figure out the meaning of life when you were 5?

reply

no, i never said that.

reply

I don't hate it I just didn't like it. I'm open minded but this movie made no sense to me.

reply

blah blah blah everything blah. I'm not going to say good movie or bad movie because from what I've seen most of the people on this site hate movies anyways. Even if you think that the movie isn't attempting to be "deep" or "philosophical" or what have you . . . what's wrong with actually thinking about the film a little bit more than just a comedy? The blanket theory is a great concept which I've seen/heard used elsewhere. So I mean, I wouldn't exactly call it all hogwash or faux philosophy. You can walk away from the film asking your own questions rather than being the hairy slob sitting at the computer bitching about movies and talking about how he has all the answers to the world.

I've come to the conclusion that my guts have *beep* for brains

reply

I don't know why this movie is disliked. Reading other people's reviews...I didn't think it was boring or pretentious. The Jude Law character was pretentious, and I think that's why it was so memorable. Haven't you ever met someone who would tell you a story several times in hopes of building up their reputation, but all it does is expose them as menial?

I really, really, really liked this movie, much more than a Wes Anderson movie too. This one didn't put me to sleep.

reply

PROFANITY! The example in the quotes section is enough to keep me from it.

reply

[deleted]

Maybe I need to watch it on a plane. I have read a lot of extreme opinions on it, people seem to love it or hate it. I am trying to make up my own mind, but I can't get through it. I have sat down to watch it 3 times and I am still only 1/2 an hour through the movie.
Maybe if I was on a plane and confined to my seat I could get further through it.

reply

Your answer may lie within the confusing plot.

I'm guess I'm just too stupid to understand this movie and the jokes...and when I DID laugh, I never understood WHY.

I thought that scene where Dustin Hoffman was showing Mark Walberg our universe on the map were extremely funny....

Maybe you have to watch it more than once in order to get it? That might've been my case...

www.simplydustinhoffman.com
-#1 site for Dustin Hoffman fans-

reply

The plot isn't confusing, it's just too lighthearted. It covers nothing new to anyone who's ever done any questioning about existence.

I understand its approach to "existentialism", but it's just not my cup of tea. I guess it doesn't help that I'm a "misanthropic" nihilist.

I hate using labels, but they're the easiest way to get the point across, whatever.

reply

It's all just textbook hooey thrown together to make a semi-cohesive script.

reply